did i screw up my cpu?

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i have an fx-8320 cpu and i was about to change its stock cooler to an arctic cooler xtreme rev 2.
when ive tried to remove the stock cooler the cpu was stuck to it. ive tried removing so hard that ive pull out the cpu stucked to the cooler from the locked case. later on ive managed to isolate ( a bin bent but i bent it back) them and put on the new cooler. but the results were not the ones i expected. idle temperature about 37 C, playing CS:Go (about 25 % CPU usage) it went up almost to 60 C, playing bf3 (65 % usage) it was about to hit 70 C. it was way more than with the stock cooler. and i think ive put on the cooler on correctly and applied a good amount of thermal paste. could i damage the cpu when ive pull it out from the locked case and that causes these high temps? and if not what could be the problem?

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64C in Prime95 is actually a respectable temp. I wouldn't worry about the CPU, you did not damage it.

But definitely get a better case, and put your build in there. Use my recommendations in my earlier post.

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You most likely damaged it but without having it in my hands I cant tell you exactly. First I would compare how your speeds and temps were before you ripped it out. Also how did the CPU come out if it is in its socket with a retension clip? Another question how did you fix the bent pin what tool did you use?
 
What did you mean by "a good amount" of thermal paste? To me, that suggests "a lot," which probably means too much. All the paste is meant to do is fill in microscopic cracks and grooves in the mating surfaces, so the thinnest layer possible should be used. In most cases, a rice-grain-sized amount placed in the center of the CPU will be spread out properly by nothing more than the pressure of the cooler when it is mounted.
What cooler did you buy, and is its fan running at a decent speed?
 

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-speed is good
-the temps are higher thn they used to be with stock cooler
-it was like superglued to the cooler and when i removed the cooler the cpu came with it
-i fixed it with a sewing needle
-i put a very little ammount on it, should not be the problem
-i bought an arctic cooling xtreme rev 2.0 fan speed is decent like 900 rpm idle
 
Everything sounds fine.

The reason the temps are a bit higher is because:

A) You added too much or too little thermal paste
B) The thermal paste has not applied correctly, and has not cured/primed yet (give it 300 hours or so)

Make sure that you use the correct application method for the CPU cooler. If the CPU is running fine overall, the CPU likely had no damage and I would just go through a reinstalling of the cooler/thermal paste.

Hope that helps :)
 
If you straightened out the bent pins then theoretically you should be ok if the cpu is booting and working. Exactly how much paste did you use is my question.

I'd recommend pulling the cooler, clean all old paste off the chip and off the cooler as well. Put only about a dot in the center of your chip no, spread it out with your finger or a credit card. I prefer my finger honestly, and just make sure you have a thin layer over the whole chip, you don't want to dump a whole tube of paste on the chip. Remount the cooler nice and tight. The idea of thermal paste is just to fill the grooves between the chip surface and heatisnk surface. If you use too much paste, you'll slowly bake the chip.

I suppose it's possible you messed up the chip, but if you are gaming on it and it boots and works, I'd say it's probably ok. Once you get it back together, download hwmonitor, watch your temps with that, then download intel burn test, which is basically a torture test for cpu's. Run Intel Burn test for at least 5 passes maybe even 10 I'd say, idea is basically to kill the cpu if it's going to go out. I use that when I'm overclocking to test stability. Your chip will heat up VERY quickly, so if you see temps going up, don't be alarmed, just watch them.

What is airflow like in your tower? May want to add fans for exhaust also. Maybe make sure in the bios that the system is not turning the fan down, basically make the CPU fan run full speed all the time. Also, keep in mind when you repaste, sometimes new paste will take a while to bake in so you may see temps drop a bit over a few days.

Last thing, another guy taught me, before you pull a cpu heatsink, turn the system on, run it for 5 minutes or so just to let things get heated up a bit. Then shut down, and pull it before it cools too much. Running the system a little should heat the old paste and soften it a little. Also, when you pull the cooler, I've learned to twist the cooler back and forth a little while it's still on the cpu in order to try to break it loose a little from the paste holding it to the CPU. Doing these things should lessen the force you need. If in doubt, just remember pull straight up so you don't bend pins. I accidentally messed up a CPU once by pulling sideways. Expensive lesson, thankfully it was only about 60 bucks, but at the time I didn't have much money so you can imagine how unhappy my house was.
 
The only thing that I can think of that you could have screwed up is the thermal paste under the lid of the CPU die itself, the interface between the CPU die and the spreader (under the CPU top.). You may have broken the seal or whatever in there with all that pulling.

I would just look up the correct thermal paste application methods for 8-core AMD CPUs, and do everything right, and double check everything. Use it for a couple of days to let the paste settle, and then come back here and tell us the results.
 

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thanks for the answers guys, i really appreciate it.
okay, i give some days to the paste...

ps: 1 more thing: i have a really old case. like the ones in the P4 era. it has only one little chassis fan inside. can that cause this higher temps?
 


Yeah, that can definitely limit the airflow.


What size is your motherboard? (ATX, micro-ATX, etc.?) A new case can run you only like $40, and your computer can have better airflow, much better USB ports and other connections, along with hugely improved appearance.

This case is optimized for High AirFlow (HAF)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $44.00


Or this, on the cheaper side:


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Case: Cougar Solution (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $34.99

But the case is not causing the higher temps obviously, because it was in the same case before with the stock cooler. But a new case is highly recommended, and will help your temps.

Keep us updated!
 

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how much is the chance that i really screwed up like you wrote? :/ getting 65 C after 10-15 mins of 30 % CPU usage with a 40$ cooler could really be caused by the thermal paste?
 


I doubt that it happened. Run a stress test, like Prime95. I am interested to see the temperatures when you open that.

http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=205
 

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i ran it for 10 mins it was peaking at 64 C.
but i think i found out the source of the heatness. its probably because of my poor case. it has no air flow, just only 8x8 cm fan in the back. you guys and one of my friend told me that if the cpu works i didnt damage it so that can not couse the high temps. it cant be the fan installation/thermal paste usage either because ive done that 3 times first with a bit much paste than with less ammount and for the third time cleaned both of the heatsink and the cpu like a diamond putting on just a perfect amount of paste squeezing the fan on as much as i can aaand the results were almost perfectly the same after all installations. are you guys agree?

ps: i played about 2 hours of cs:go and the temp went up to 67 C
 

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thats gonna happen. thanks a lot!