System NO LONGER POST-ing, CPU Led stays red

Kaarel

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Hi all, a fresh member and a first-time PC-builder here! First of all, sorry for the long wall of text, but I'm trying to give out as much information as possible.

Last weekend I completed my first fully self-built computer. Surprisingly everything worked well, I installed Windows 7 64-bit, all my applications and a few games (which I tried for several hours on very high settings and the computer had no problems, CPU temp ~55-60, GPU ~50-60). All was well for ~5 days (PC was on ~90% of the time, downloading my steam library).

The problem started yesterday evening - first the PC just turned itself off. I turned it on again and it worked for a few minutes - during this time I managed to run AMD overdrive to see the CPU and GPU temperatures (I have not OC-d the CPU though, just use the program to measure temperatures. The temperatures were normal - around 30C CPU on idle and same for GPU. Anyway after a few minutes of idling the system locked up - the sound looped, mouse cursor did not move. Had to shut down the PC by holding the power button for several seconds.

The next time I tried to turn on the PC, the machine did not POST. All the fans turned on, and I could hear the HD also start up, but the red "CPU_Led" light stayed lit and nothing happened.

I figured maybe the processor is badly seated, since it is my first build. I removed the stock heatsink and the processor, removed the old thermal paste and applied some fresh paste (rouhghly the amount of a cooked grain of rice). Next time I ran the machine the PC told me that it detected a change of processor and booted into BIOS. From there I was able to boot into Windows and subsquently lock up in a few minutes again.

Now the PC is not booting at all, again stuck at red CPU_Led and working fans and HD. I obtained a Mobo speaker to learn the error code, but I'm not getting a single beep - even if I try to boot without any RAM present. I also rechecked all the connections, reseated RAM, GPU, etc, also reset the CMOS.

Could it be that the crashing somehow ruined the BIOS? The worse possibilities seem to be that either the CPU fried somehow, or the PSU developed a fault or that something is wrong on the motherboard. Or, I somehow managed to imperfectly seat the CPU heatsink. I'm hoping that it is BIOS. I have no equipment neither skills to test the PSU, but the rest of the components I'm going to try and "breadboard", to detect the fault more detailed, but since I am getting no Mobo speaker beeps at all, I'm not sure I'll be able to gather much information.

Writing from work at the moment, do not have a second PC at home, but I will monitor this thread on my phone and will try to present additional information when I have more (sent this post with the detailed description out before "breadboarding", because posting that kind of a text on a cellphone would take hours ;)

Meanwhile, I hope that the description gives somebody a few ideas what might have happened and how I could fix it. Or at least an estimation about how probable it is that something fried.

If you need additional information, I will gladly provide it to the best of my ability.

My specs:
M5A99FX Pro 2.0 mobo
FX6300 CPU
R9 280 GPU (MSI 3gb version)
Samsung Evo 840 SSD for Windows, 1TB WD 7200 RPM drive for data
Random Apple Cinema Display (21")
8GB Kingston 1866mHz RAM (HX318C10FB/8)


Kind regards,
Kaarel

 
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kaarel on asus mb the red cpu light failure will also light if the power supply 12 cpu power is not there or low. what is the brand and wattage of your power supply. my first hint is a power issue is you saying the pc shut off. shutting off or locking up can be a sign of bad power from the power supply.

jayjay291077

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Sounds like you CPU isn't seated properly, that what the red light normally means. would double check it when you get home. sure one of the experts will correct me if i'm wrong, but that's my gut feeling, doubt you managed to fry your cpu, but i've done that myself twice( my first ever build forgot to apply the thermal paste and before you know it, one dead piece of silicone
 
kaarel on asus mb the red cpu light failure will also light if the power supply 12 cpu power is not there or low. what is the brand and wattage of your power supply. my first hint is a power issue is you saying the pc shut off. shutting off or locking up can be a sign of bad power from the power supply.
 
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Kaarel

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Hello, and thanks for the quick answers!

Jayjay, I will try reseating the CPU the first thing when I get home. Hopefully the problem is that simple :)

Sorry about not listing my PSU - obviously I had to forget the most important part: it is a Seasonic M12 II Evo 750W. Nothing overly fancy but it was the best I could get and still be in budget. It should be able to provide enough power for my system (presuming that it is not faulty). I just remembered I should have a old no-name brand 550W power supply laying around somewhere. It served me well for over 4 years, I can use it to determine whether my power supply has a serious problem or not.

Smorizio - by "12 cpu power" do you mean the ATX cable with 8 pins, that goes into the socket near the CPU? How do I determine if it is in the socket firmly enough? It seemed to be in there quite strong (did not move when poking with a finger). I will try reseating it again - maybe I am underestimating the force I have to use, to press things onto motherboard (and also being afraid of breaking the motherboard might have caused me to use too little force)

Also the more difficult question - how do i understand that the CPU and the heatsink are really properly seated. The AM3+ socket certainly feels quite straightforward - lift lever up, insert CPU so that the arrows match on CPU and the socket, pull lever down and locking behind a tab next to the socket. Should it make some kind of a clicking sound when it is locked? Also the heatsink clicks into place and has a locking mechanism where I can move a lever to the locked position. I still presume, there is a way to screw it up and I might have very well found it :p

Can't wait to get home to try these things out!

 

Kaarel

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Good news, for now atleast!

After picking the system entirely apart and installing the CPU and heatsink on the motherboard outside of the case, I got the system to boot. After that I added the rest of the components stepwise and now I'm writing this message on my PC.

I think I might have underestimated the strength that was needed to correctly fixate the CPU power plug to the motherboard, therefore causing it to lose connection sometime during the use. I think the CPU was inserted correctly, because none of the pins were bent.

Thank you both for your quick replies!

Now, to hope that my PSU is not failing and that the problem only was faulty installation of hardware :D