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bartNL

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L.S,

Since i got an ssd i disabled the pagefile but windows notifies me at boot that it created a temporary pagefile ever since.
I've got 8gb ram so i assume i dont really need additional virtual memory.
(leave aside the handful of programs that need some pagefile anyway)
The question is, can i disable the temp pagefile or solve this error one or another way?

pagefile-,hiberfile-,and swapfile.sys are deleted(and don't come back) so i'm curious as to where windows places that temp pagefile, i don't have an idea how big it is.
Please don't tell me to re-enable the pagefil, i've got to set it to 4>gb to get rid of the error.
Thanks for any help.
 
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Windows requires a paging file. Do not disable it or very bad things can (and eventually will) happen. Do not make the mistake of thinking that you are smarter than the designers of Window's memory management system.
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I certainly don't think i'm smarter than those designers, but windows has enough stupid limitations and restrictions to my opinion so suppose this could possible be one of them. Those pagefile settings are discussed on many forums and everyone has his own thoughts about it so i assume it's something you have to decide for yourself.

If it's not smart(and actually not even possible) to disable the paging file, why do they give the option to 'disable' the pagefile? Another illogical windows thing..
 
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ex_bubblehead is correct. The pagefile exists for a reason, it is used to store crashdumps and other information that needs to persist between power cycles. If you have Windows 8 and a UEFI compatible motherboard that supports fast boot a page file must exist to hold the kernel state when power is removed.

@profkefah: your post was removed because it contains links to file sharing sites. CCleaner and Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware are not free software. Download links must point to the publisher's website.
 
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Thanks for your comment.
I have disabled fastboot, and initially i only wanted to move the pagefile to my hdd in order to relieve my ssd.
But the system doesn't use that pagefile, wether it's system managed or not, i don't know if there's a solution for this..
I don't think you can fool the system with a simple junction link eh? :cheese:
 
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Okay that makes sense to me, well at first i didn't intend to completely disable the pagefile, but the system won't accept/work with pagefile on another drive.(as said in my reply to @Pinhedd)
 
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That's correct. The swapfile.sys file must exist on the boot drive. This is the file that's used for retaining the kernel state between power cycles, this is also known as hybrid or partial hibernation. It should be only two to three hundred megabytes in size, so it's not a big burden on an SSD. The much larger pagefile.sys (which is more or less the exact same thing) can be placed on any non-removable volume. You can disable the pagefile on your SSD and enable it on your HDD without issue. If you have a hiberfile.sys this means that you have full hibernation enabled, I'd just disable it.
 
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@Pinhedd:
swap and hyberfile are not the problem luckily, but i can't get the pagefile to another drive.
It is not possible to put it on my ext.(removable)HDD. when is a drive seen as not removable?
Only my internal ssd is obviously not seen as removable. So how'd you get the pagefile to another drive, is this only possible on desktops which can have multiple internal drives?
Thanks for your help
 
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Well i have laptop so i think that's not possible, too bad.. :(
 
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If your external hard disk drive is connected via USB it will be considered a removable drive. Pagefiles cannot exist on removable drives for safety reasons. The pagefile contains program and kernel memory that has been ejected from physical memory to make room for memory that is more frequently used. If the device that contains a pagefile is removed, the memory stored within that pagefile is removed along with the device. If a program later references that memory (a page fault), the kernel will not be able to move the memory back into physical memory. If the program is a user application, the application will crash. If the program is the operating system kernel, or a kernel module such as a driver, then the computer itself will crash and present a BSOD (specifically, KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR). Thus, pagefiles can only exist on devices that are not considered removable or hotswappable. If you do not have any internal hard disk drives, create a small 1GB pagefile on your SSD; 1GB should be enough to hold what is needed.
 
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@Pinhedd:
I understand the logic behand that, i don't think one can make a way around this to get it on a removable drive?
(because i never detach my ext hdd from my laptop)
 
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The removable flag is a part of the drive storage controller ROM. Many of them can be reprogrammed using some standard tools (MassProduction tools), but there's a huge amount of variation and there's always the risk of bricking the device.
 
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Okay, then i'll leave this pagefile for what it is.., pity
 
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