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I have been on facebook for the last day arguing with someone claiming that intel is automatically better than AMD regardless of a benchmark score comparison to similar processors for the price. He has been calling me stupid and ignorant for my concluding ideas of using benchmarks.

Here is the comparison. He said INTEL is better for overall use than the AMD despite the benchmark.

=827&cmp[1]=1782]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[0]=827&cmp[1]=1782

Please tell me im not wrong. I dont believe i am
 
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Just to clarify AMD and Intel are not "brands".

You can get an ASUS GTX 780 GPU and a MSI GTX 780 GPU. They are the same GPU but are different brands. An AMD CPU is AMD CPU and and Intel CPU is Intel CPU.

And arguing about Intel vs AMD CPUs can go on forever as it can go on and on for nVidia vs AMD GPUs.

Yes, benchmarks can show the difference between some hardware but it isn't really a real life scenario.

At this pint of time AMD seems to have decided to let Intel have the lead when comes to Gaming enthusiast CPUs and have concentrated more on creating APUs - CPUs with integrated GPUs. If you were to compare the performance you get in games with an AMD APU and with an Intel CPU using only the on-bord GPU (let's say Intel 4670K has...
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It depends what the CPU is for. AMD are much better in the budget range and their 6 and 8 core processors will outperform Intel's 4 core processors in things like rendering and HD editing but for gaming Intel generally has better performance due to stronger single core performance and the fact that most games use 4 cores max, so the AMD ends up with half the cores going to waste.
 
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Just to clarify AMD and Intel are not "brands".

You can get an ASUS GTX 780 GPU and a MSI GTX 780 GPU. They are the same GPU but are different brands. An AMD CPU is AMD CPU and and Intel CPU is Intel CPU.

And arguing about Intel vs AMD CPUs can go on forever as it can go on and on for nVidia vs AMD GPUs.

Yes, benchmarks can show the difference between some hardware but it isn't really a real life scenario.

At this pint of time AMD seems to have decided to let Intel have the lead when comes to Gaming enthusiast CPUs and have concentrated more on creating APUs - CPUs with integrated GPUs. If you were to compare the performance you get in games with an AMD APU and with an Intel CPU using only the on-bord GPU (let's say Intel 4670K has HD 4600 GPU) then AMD is the clear winner. When comes to comparing AMD CPUs with Intel CPUs with a dedicated GPU in games Intel is usually the winner. Again in general AMD CPUs are considered slightly better in multitasking due to the more cores they have but Intel CPUs of the same "class" would be generally better in game due to their per core performance.

I could keep on writing but it won't help you solving your argument.

It's a bit stupid to say that Intel CPUs are better than AMD's only because it's very hard to compare. You need to take a lot of factors into consideration like for example price, core numbers, Hyper-threading, what is the used program/game optimized for etc. etc.
 
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Passmark is crap software - It's unreliable and tests pointless things that have never been relevant, and will never be relevant. It is pretty ignorant of how CPUs actually work to use artificial benchmark software to draw any real conclusions.

Every real-world test shows that Intel is better. Of course, for general use you won't notice much of a difference because Windows 7 and 8 are actually fairly light OS', and basic computing hasn't been hard for several years on any CPU, whether it's an Athlon 750K or Pentium G3220. But in strenuous activity, like games, Intel's advantage becomes clear.

For example, here are several games where i3s beat the FX-8350.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/J/K/348032/original/CPU-Cores.png
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/11/14/intel-core-i3-4130-haswell-review/5
http://2-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.hardcoreware.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/570x421xassassins-creed-iv-fps3.png.pagespeed.ic.fndiB29yZP.png
http://3-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.hardcoreware.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/570x421xbattlefield-4-fps2.png.pagespeed.ic.1d8vhdafmu.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-4340-4330-4130/Charts-1/sleepingdogs.png
http://2-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.hardcoreware.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/570x421xtomb-raider-fps2.png.pagespeed.ic.u5WegqRFBr.png
http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.hardcoreware.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/570x421xcrysis-3-fps2.png.pagespeed.ic.OxVs5ewy2I.png

And i5s beat the FX-8350 in *every* game.

The only place where the AMD FX CPUs are ahead is in rendering - That's all their architecture was designed for.
 
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If you didn't notice I put the word brands in quote marks. By saying that AMD and Intel are not brands I mean they are not brands in the meaning of the example I gave with the graphics cards.

Apparently you can interpret it any way you wish so there is no easy way for me to explain what I meant and I don't feel like starting long arguments.

Have a nice day/night.

 
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