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August 24, 2014 10:24:39 PM

I have picked my parts and am wondering if anyone is willing to take a look at my list and let me know if it looks ok. Also I have this all priced at about $1028.00 but that is a little more than I originally wanted to spend. Is there anything you can recommend as far as making it cheaper without making it to much slower or taking a big hit on frame rate? Thanks in advance.

Processor- AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard-Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory-Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage-Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5” 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card-Asus GeForce 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card
Power Supply-Corsair Builder 500W 80+Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive-Lite-On IHAS324-07 DVD/CD Writer
OS-Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Monitor Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5” Monitor
Sound Card-Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card
Wireless Network Adapter-Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wii-Fi Adapter

Thanks for the quick responses! I suppose I should add that I basically only play World of Warcraft but I want to be able to do it on ultra settings. I also don't want to have to upgrade anything for awhile but don't want way more than I need. Yet I never know if I might find another game I enjoy. Right now I have a Nvidia gts 240 for graphics and can tell its starting to not handle the graphics as well. Plus since it was a prebuilt from Dell, upgrading the card is not an option. I am handing my current system down to a relative which is why I need another monitor.

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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2014 10:29:13 PM

Since you are gaming, I would ditch the AMD cpu and get an Intel i5 or i3. Your gaming performance will far exceed what that AMD cpu can produce. It will cost a little bit more but you wont regret spending the extra dollars.
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a c 466 4 Gaming
August 24, 2014 10:31:50 PM

Change the PSU for sure. The Cx units are not good. Antec, XFX, Seasonic is what you want.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2014 10:32:34 PM

For MMOs, an i3-4130 or an i3-4150 will offer better performance than an FX-6300.
You also don't really need a GTX 760 for MMOs. A cheaper R9 270X would easily be enough.
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August 24, 2014 10:32:45 PM

Looks good however dont use the OEM version of windows. It for system builders who will use multiple copy's and req the OEM Preinstallation Kit and then resell the PC to a third party. If you install that software on your own PC, you don't have a "genuine" copy of Windows. Also if money allows stick an SSD in there for your operating system.
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August 24, 2014 10:42:50 PM

Rationale said:
For MMOs, an i3-4130 or an i3-4150 will offer better performance than an FX-6300.
You also don't really need a GTX 760 for MMOs. A cheaper R9 270X would easily be enough.

I doult that. MMO can be VERY cpu intensive, except in market places and raids.
I doubled my fps changing from a i3 to a xeon e3 with everything the same in gw2
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a c 466 4 Gaming
August 24, 2014 10:47:48 PM

MMOs prefer single core performance over core count. An i3 will certainly beat an fx6300 in most all MMOs.

Don't forget GW2 has some of the worst game coding of all time and is VERY VERY sensitive to per core performance.

Of course you saw a big improvement. You went from an i3 to basically an i7.

If you had a 6300 before, the difference would have been MORE.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/guild-wars-2-perfor... even a PENTIUM beats an fx8350 in GW2. It is STRICTLY an intel game.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2014 10:52:00 PM

Yingda Wang said:
Rationale said:
For MMOs, an i3-4130 or an i3-4150 will offer better performance than an FX-6300.
You also don't really need a GTX 760 for MMOs. A cheaper R9 270X would easily be enough.

I doult that. MMO can be VERY cpu intensive, except in market places and raids.
I doubled my fps changing from a i3 to a xeon e3 with everything the same in gw2


Yes, MMOs are CPU intensive, and on relatively few cores. That's why an i3 would be better than an FX-6300.

Here are some MMO benchmarks.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/R/Z/429983/original/CPU-FR...
http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/MMO/Guild%20W...
http://media.bestofmicro.com/J/K/348032/original/CPU-Co...
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a c 466 4 Gaming
August 24, 2014 10:52:27 PM

100% correct. i3>AMD in basically any MMO. This has always been the case.
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August 24, 2014 11:03:39 PM

I learnt something today.
Thanks
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August 24, 2014 11:18:18 PM

Ok, so i3 is ok? I won't need at least an i5? Sorry I am not very up to date on what the differences are and I'm having a really hard time picking because there are so many different i3's and i5's available.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2014 11:25:11 PM

Cappi106 said:
Ok, so i3 is ok? I won't need at least an i5? Sorry I am not very up to date on what the differences are and I'm having a really hard time picking because there are so many different i3's and i5's available.


The i3-4150 is comparable to the FX-6300 in overall performance, but the i3 ends up being quicker in MMOs. I'd recommend the i3-4150.

You don't need the sound card, so you can save money by dropping that. Motherboards nowadays all have pretty nice sound chips built into them.

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August 24, 2014 11:41:18 PM

Here is what I have listed now. If there is a better pick for a motherboard please let me know as I just don't understand the differences. Again thank you all so much for your help.

Processor- Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor
CPU Cooler- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard-Asus z87-A ATX LGA1150
Memory-Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage-Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5” 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card-Asus Radeon R9 270X 4GB DirectCU II
Power Supply-XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX
Optical Drive-Lite-On IHAS324-07 DVD/CD Writer
OS-Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64 bit)
Monitor Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5” Monitor
Wireless Network Adapter-Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wii-Fi Adapter

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a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2014 12:32:09 AM

Cappi106 said:
Here is what I have listed now. If there is a better pick for a motherboard please let me know as I just don't understand the differences. Again thank you all so much for your help.

Processor- Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor
CPU Cooler- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard-Asus z87-A ATX LGA1150
Memory-Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage-Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5” 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card-Asus Radeon R9 270X 4GB DirectCU II
Power Supply-XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX
Optical Drive-Lite-On IHAS324-07 DVD/CD Writer
OS-Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64 bit)
Monitor Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5” Monitor
Wireless Network Adapter-Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wii-Fi Adapter



A few things - i3s don't overclock, so you could save money by getting an H87 or H97 motherboard, and by getting rid of the aftermarket cooler. Or you could keep the cooler, since it's quieter than the cooler that comes with the CPU and some people don't like how noisy that can get.

A 4GB R9 270X is meant for crossfire - the cheaper 2GB version will perform the same.
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August 25, 2014 4:24:44 PM

Sorry to keep reposting but I swapped the original motherboard in my post for a Asus H97-PLUS ATX LGA 1150, dropped the after market fan as noise never bothered me, and switched the video card to the 2GB and this all brought my cost down to $837. So my last question is this, Dell has a Alienware X51 for $749.00 with a 4th Generation Intel Core i3 Processor, 8GB of memory, Nvidia Geforce GTX 745 with 4GB DDR3, 1TB Sata 6Gb/s (7200RPM) 64MB Cache, everything else is similar. Is it worth building my own or would I be better off buying the prebuilt?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2014 4:46:09 PM

Cappi106 said:
Sorry to keep reposting but I swapped the original motherboard in my post for a Asus H97-PLUS ATX LGA 1150, dropped the after market fan as noise never bothered me, and switched the video card to the 2GB and this all brought my cost down to $837. So my last question is this, Dell has a Alienware X51 for $749.00 with a 4th Generation Intel Core i3 Processor, 8GB of memory, Nvidia Geforce GTX 745 with 4GB DDR3, 1TB Sata 6Gb/s (7200RPM) 64MB Cache, everything else is similar. Is it worth building my own or would I be better off buying the prebuilt?


The R9 270X is much, much stronger than the GTX 745.
GTX 745 < R7 260 < GTX 750 < R7 260X < R7 265 < GTX 750 Ti < R9 270 < R9 270X

It's easily worth spending the extra $90 to build your own.
But if you want to trim the price of your build, the Asrock H97 Pro4 will cost ~$25 less than the Asus H97-Plus, and both are high quality.

Chances are the Alienware has some poor quality $40 motherboard and $30 PSU - prebuilts almost always skimp on those since people don't pay attention to them when buying prebuilt.
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August 25, 2014 9:07:36 PM

I wondered about that (prebuilts low quality parts). I just want to make sure I won't have any lag or frame rate issues? Now all I have to do is stop being scared and order the stuff :)  Thank you so much for all your help! Is there a way to give everyone credit for their responses?
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