Haswell-E or Broadwell?

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
M

markymau5

Reputable
Apr 6, 2014
17
0
4,510
Hey guys!

I'm confused about this whole Haswell-E and Broadwell mixup, since I thought Broadwell was Q3 2014, not Haswell-E...

So a couple of questions...

The first- Which is better?

Does Broadwell have 6+ cores, DDR4 and all the other things that Haswell-E will have? Does Haswell-E have as good as a GPU as Broadwell is supposed to? Which will OC better? Which is more futureproof? Which will have more bang per buck? Which will be more affordable? Which would you reccomend for enthuisiast gaming?

And finally, when will both of them release?
 
Solution
modernwar99
The only main differences between Haswell and Broadwell will be lower power consumption, slightly better peformance (~5%?), and much better processor graphics. The reason for that is AMD can't compete with them anymore in the high performance category. Their Haswell CPUs already have very extremely good performance, so instead of improving that much, they are focusing on improving power consumption. Broadwell won't have support for DDR4 RAM, it's successor code-named Skylake will support DDR4 RAM though. Even generation old Intel CPUs haven't dropped much in price, so I doubt Haswell will when Broadwell is released. Haswell-E is mainly if you want more than 4 cores, DDR4 support, more PCIe lanes, and quad channel RAM. So far Broadwell...
Sort by date Sort by votes
modernwar99

modernwar99

Reputable
Jul 9, 2014
1,166
0
5,960
The only main differences between Haswell and Broadwell will be lower power consumption, slightly better peformance (~5%?), and much better processor graphics. The reason for that is AMD can't compete with them anymore in the high performance category. Their Haswell CPUs already have very extremely good performance, so instead of improving that much, they are focusing on improving power consumption. Broadwell won't have support for DDR4 RAM, it's successor code-named Skylake will support DDR4 RAM though. Even generation old Intel CPUs haven't dropped much in price, so I doubt Haswell will when Broadwell is released. Haswell-E is mainly if you want more than 4 cores, DDR4 support, more PCIe lanes, and quad channel RAM. So far Broadwell is only supposed to be max 4 cores (the i7 being hyperthreaded). As of right now, the first wave of DDR4 will have very little speed increase over DDR3, and a much higher price tag so it's not worth buying. Haswell-E is supposed to be released August 29th (this week) and Broadwell in late 2014 or early 2015.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Solution
Vexillarius

Vexillarius

Reputable
Aug 23, 2014
1,434
0
5,960
Mainstream DDR4 support won't be around until Skylake comes out I believe. It'll be way overpriced until then anyway.
Broadwell is simply a die shrink of Haswell, so I wouldn't hold my breath for big new features. It'll be quadcore, like Haswell.

Honestly, I'd hold off on deciding until Haswell-E is actually out, see how it performs. Ivy Bridge-E was underwhelming and is outperformed in most cases by the 4790K (a Haswell Refresh CPU). If it's the same for Haswell-E then I'd wait for Broadwell or go with regular Haswell Refresh.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
W

wireframed

Reputable
Jul 2, 2014
12
0
4,510
You're confusing the -E series with the regular series. Haswell-E is the HEDT (High End DeskTop) release of Haswell, just like Ivy Bridge-E and Sandy Bridge-E before that. There will be a Broadwell-E series as well. (In a loooong time).

The -E CPUs typically have more cores, more cache and more RAM bandwidth. They use the different sockets (LGA 1366, LGA 2011), different chipsets (X59, X79, X99) and are more expensive. They aren't meant for normal desktop/gaming use, but rest solidly between the desktop and workstation segment. If you need more CPU power than a 4970K will give you, but your budget doesn't allow Xeons, (or you need more cutting edge features in the motherboard), then the HEDT is for you.

So no, Broadwell won't feature 6 cores and DDR4. Broadwell-E will. (And might be a 2016 release, the way things are going...)

Haswell-E is being released tomorrow, Broadwell will probably see release of the low-power CPUs late this year, and the desktop segment some time a year from now.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
W

wireframed

Reputable
Jul 2, 2014
12
0
4,510

What? No it isn't. Sure, if you only use 4 out of 6 cores, then yes, 4 slightly faster cores on a newer architecture will outperform it. But then, if you're only using 4 cores, why are you on IB-E in the first place?

Performance from Haswell to Haswell-E is likely to scale fairly linearly with the number of cores. It's not rocketscience, 50% more cores, 50% faster. (Again, assuming you use all the cores, but that's kinda "duh!".)
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Vexillarius

Vexillarius

Reputable
Aug 23, 2014
1,434
0
5,960


Then I must have read/heard something wrong, all I ever hear about Ivy Bridge-E is that it's kinda meh. Doesn't mean I'm not wrong ofcourse, I might just be looking in the wrong places, but that's kind of the image I got from it, underwhelming.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom