How to pick ram and other components?

Nogan32

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Hi guys I am fairly new to building computers. Currently I have an Intel I5 Haswell 4670k plugged into an Asus Maximus Hero VI motherboard with 2X8 Patriot Viper 1866 mhz ram and an Asus 760 GTX graphics card . I have been reading online and there are studies saying that 2400 mhz is the new "sweet spot" for ram speed for the I5. So I am wondering not only what the best ram for my set up would be but also what is important to look for in general? Of course what sticks out to me as being the best ram is 4X4 Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 mhz with a latency of 9. Now that's assuming that 4X4 is better than 2X8. I guess i just need a lot of schooling in ram please help if you can even if you only know part of the answer.
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Logan
 
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With your CPU and Mobo2400 should be no problem, and 2133/2400 has basically become the price/performance sweet spot - if simply gaming 1600 will work but you'll pick up some FPS (not a lot with faster sticks. The higher data rates excel when multi tasking and running DRAM intensive apps or large data sets. For 16GB a 2x8GB set is preferred, less sticks - less stress on the MC (memory controller) and ever so slightly faster (basically un-noticable but there ;) ). In 2x8GB at 2400, I've run numerous sets from numerous manufacturers, and the best have been the GSkill Trident followed by the Team Xtreem and Corsair Vengeance Pro (all CL10 sets), the Mushkin Redline 2400/10, have also run numerous 2400/11 sets - of those the Snipers were...

Nogan32

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Sorry I forgot I asked this question. So, fairly new but I have a lot of friends who are deep in to computers, plus it's the way I am, if I am using something I like to understand it and know how it works.

No rendering yet, it's a possibility latter for school, just gaming but my theory is you get what you pay for and if I can spend more cash now to save a few months before buying a new part I am all for it. I have looked more in to this myself, so the I5 is optimized for 1600 MHz, but the mobo can handle up to 2400 MHz O.C., and I guess 4670K are set up for dual channel memory kits.

1.So my revised questions would be is there a downside to running a quad kit when the CPU is optimized for dual?

2.The way I understand it there less gain from going past 1600 MHz (because of the I5) but no gain past 2400 MHz (because of the mobo) is that correct?

3.How do you generally figure out what ram is better? If you find the overall latency ((cas. latency/clock time) * 1000) of say the Corsair Dominator Platinum line (DDR3), @3000 MHz/4.000 @2933 MHz/4.091 @2800 MHz/4.286 @2666 MHz/4.615 @2400 MHz/4.167 @2133 MHz/3.751. That would make it seem like the 2133 MHz ram is faster than the 3000 MHz ram. what part of the equation am I missing?

4. Corsair states; "Corsair Vengeance Pro Series memory kits are designed for overclocking on the latest 3rd and 4th generation Intel® Core™ processor families, with ICs specially selected for performance potential." Does that mean I would be better off with Vengeance than Dominator?

* In my first post the cas. is 10 not 9.
 

Nogan32

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Sorry I forgot I asked this question. So, fairly new but I have a lot of friends who are deep in to computers, plus it's the way I am, if I am using something I like to understand it and know how it works.

No rendering yet, it's a possibility latter for school, just gaming but my theory is you get what you pay for and if I can spend more cash now to save a few months before buying a new part I am all for it. I have looked more in to this myself, so the I5 is optimized for 1600 MHz, but the mobo can handle up to 2400 MHz O.C., and I guess 4670K are set up for dual channel memory kits.

1.So my revised questions would be is there a downside to running a quad kit when the CPU is optimized for dual?

2.The way I understand it there less gain from going past 1600 MHz (because of the I5) but no gain past 2400 MHz (because of the mobo) is that correct?

3.How do you generally figure out what ram is better? If you find the overall latency ((cas. latency/clock time) * 1000) of say the Corsair Dominator Platinum line (DDR3), @3000 MHz/4.000 @2933 MHz/4.091 @2800 MHz/4.286 @2666 MHz/4.615 @2400 MHz/4.167 @2133 MHz/3.751. That would make it seem like the 2133 MHz ram is faster than the 3000 MHz ram. what part of the equation am I missing?

4. Corsair states; "Corsair Vengeance Pro Series memory kits are designed for overclocking on the latest 3rd and 4th generation Intel® Core™ processor families, with ICs specially selected for performance potential." Does that mean I would be better off with Vengeance than Dominator?

* In my first post the cas. is 10 not 9.


Sorry posted in the wrong spot but i wanted to make sure you saw this.

I have a couple other questions too if you think you are up to the challenge?
 

Tradesman1

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With your CPU and Mobo2400 should be no problem, and 2133/2400 has basically become the price/performance sweet spot - if simply gaming 1600 will work but you'll pick up some FPS (not a lot with faster sticks. The higher data rates excel when multi tasking and running DRAM intensive apps or large data sets. For 16GB a 2x8GB set is preferred, less sticks - less stress on the MC (memory controller) and ever so slightly faster (basically un-noticable but there ;) ). In 2x8GB at 2400, I've run numerous sets from numerous manufacturers, and the best have been the GSkill Trident followed by the Team Xtreem and Corsair Vengeance Pro (all CL10 sets), the Mushkin Redline 2400/10, have also run numerous 2400/11 sets - of those the Snipers were best.
 
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Nogan32

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OK great, so the trident even out preformed the Dominator platinum? if it did by how much because I really like the 10 year warranty, the lighting effects, I already have the Corsair Link (came with the AX860i PSU), and I like the fan that snaps on to the ram. I plan on upgrading to 4k asap, the ram would matter for that I would assume.