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I know which components I need, but not which parts. Every component has so many variants, and I dont really know the exact difference. This is the rig somebody else set up for me, but I have no idea if it is any good. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Lh3vjX

I'm on a 1000-1500 euro budget, but I can go higher if I need to.

I'm getting a little desperate, so please help me :)

Thanks for reading!
 
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Everything is good. Although, if you're going to just play games on the PC, get an i5 4670k and use the left over money to purchase the GTX 780 from Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA or Gainward. (I have the Gainward GTX 780 - remove the fans which is quite good, stops from overheating).

Motherboard, I have never owned an Asrock motherboard but seems to have good reviews.

You could potentially purchase two 500GB or 1TB HDDs and put them in a RAID 0 configuration. This will basically double the speed and capacity of the HDDs. A disadvantage to this would be that if one HDD fails, all of the data is lost.
 
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Here is a much more balanced build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($71.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($165.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($183.45 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.23 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($669.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($123.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1839.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-27 16:19 EDT-0400
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£236.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 140XL 122.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£72.71 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£105.19 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£83.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.14 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£463.03 @ CCL Computers)
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£155.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£105.43 @ More Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.65 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor
Keyboard: SteelSeries APEX Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei Pro MLG Edition Wired Laser Mouse (£79.54 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1480.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-27 21:41 BST+0100


this is gonna be close to the best you can get in your price range. it'll last you a long time and has a huge upgrade path
 
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isn't a better idea to get two 120GB SSDs and do RAID 0 on them?
 
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What's the upgrade path? The CPU is already top of the line and so is the GPU. The i7 is a waste of $100 extra for a feature he will probably never use, hyper-threading.
 
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upgrade to broadwell, the psu has enough power for a second 780ti, more ram can be added, more storage can be added. i never said those upgrades would be needed, but theyre there just in case.

also, raid 0 on ssds doesnt boost performance as much as it would seem. read this, or atleast, the title of the last page:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-raid-benchmark,3485-13.html

its better to raid hdd instead.

sure, the hyper threading may not be needed now, and it may not be needed ever. but why not get it when it fits in the budget?
 
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Mostly because He might want to save money rather than have to use all of it
 
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Wow this is amazing guys! I didn't expect this much help over 1 night! I am very happy with all your anwsers but I've got a couple questions: In case I want to record video's, I heard it's better to get i7, is that true?
Which of these two builds should I choose? What are the differences because 1800 is on the expensive side for me, I could do it, but i'll have to wait longer so I'd rather do 1500. I'm getting paid soon though so this evening I will post the exact price I have available at that moment. Should I go for windows 7 or 8? I had some problems with 8 and I heard that 7 is better for gaming. Are these complete pc builds? Except for monitor, keyboard and mouse do I need to buy any thing else like more fans or something? I'm a complete noob at pc building so if you have like a website that explains some of the less basic stuff that would be great too. Thanks for your help so far guys! It is amazing to see such nice people on the internet :)
 
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Yes it would but price pays a factor in that. Two HDDs are cheaper than one standard 120GB SSD.
 
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If you would like to record footage and edit the gameplay. then the i7 series would benefit you because it has hyperthreading support. This will increase the performance of your PC by 20-30% when dealing with heavy workload. If you just want to game, get an i5. Choose the build that is more associated to what you want to use it for. Personal preference for me is Windows 7, simply easier to use and there seems to be less issues with regards to games compared to Windows 8/8.1. All the PCs configured below are complete and do not any additional components. Guide on how to build a PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea_bs5G1yYU

Hopefully that answers all your questions.
 
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If you want a 1500 build, I'll have it on the bottom. I would go with Windows 8 as it will have support for longer and is supported by more games and programs. You need to get thermal paste and the other peripherals which you mentiones. The i7 will help when EDITING large amounts of video with Adobe programs and you will probably only be doing it on Windows Movie maker so the i5 is perfectly fine. You can later on upgrade to the i7 if you really want hyper-threading, but otherwise, it should be fine. Here is a good series of videos that will help you when you are building: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWkH_8b1Q9Y. Please remember to select a best answer so other people who have a similar question can be helped.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.66 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($72.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($118.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.23 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($602.25 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1539.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-28 14:52 EDT-0400
 
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angrywarlock, are you from england or europe? im getting confused on whether this budget is for £s or $s. theres a significant difference.

if its £s, heres my suggesttion, i took the cost down a little bit for a barely noticable loss in performance. i kept the i7 just in case you wanted to venture into more editing and stuff.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£220.11 @ YoYoTech)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£105.19 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£73.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.14 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£463.03 @ CCL Computers)
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£155.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£105.43 @ More Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.98 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£79.75 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor
Keyboard: SteelSeries APEX Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei Pro MLG Edition Wired Laser Mouse (£79.54 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1417.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-28 20:08 BST+0100

EDIT: fixed bbcode pcpartpicker link
 
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He said at the beggining that his budget is 1500 EUROS which is 1800 DOLLARS. He gave us the request to do builds in DOLLARS or in POUNDS but in the end, it all had to be equivalent to 1500 EUROS.
 
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Last question, after that I will close this thread. How good will this build do me? If found a windows 8 copy laying around from my old laptop so if I can use that i'll have some money spare, and i'll buy this build with an i7 just in case. Thanks for all the help so far!

 
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This build is the best of the best. The 780 ti is the most powerful single card solution on the planet and it will last you a long time. The 4690K is one of the newest chips in the Haswell line and will do you amazing in almost anything you can imagine. The i7 will only be helpful if you are rendering videos which most youtubers don't do, especially if they are gaming.
 
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