Cpu integrated graphics?
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It is cheaper to design and manufacture a single CPU type then to make different ones. For the majority of non-gamers the Intel HD graphics is plenty, and the primary customer that Intel focuses on is the business world.
The CPUs they make that don't have iGPUs are quite specialized and you are looking at several thousand dollars to just get the basics of the machine. (With the exception of those CPUs where the integrated graphics is broken, and is simply disabled, the P class processors)
The CPUs they make that don't have iGPUs are quite specialized and you are looking at several thousand dollars to just get the basics of the machine. (With the exception of those CPUs where the integrated graphics is broken, and is simply disabled, the P class processors)
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Yes having a dedicated graphics card does make integrated graphics fairly redundant but the iCore series exist for those that want the processing power of the chip but dont need a dedicated graphics. for example, I have 3 servers that have i5 chips and none of those servers have graphics cards because they are data server, so the integrated graphics come in handy for basic needs like displaying the GUI. but that is about as much as I would trust intel's integrated graphics.
AMD on the other hand has done a fantastic job and APU chips (A6, A8,A10 ect) do a pretty stand up job on their own. my son has an A10 and no graphics card and he can still play plenty of games like World of warcraft, Diablo III ect...
If you want to save a little you can get a Xeon Chip which does not have built in graphics yet is functionally the same as any i5 or i7. for example my Xeon E3-1230v3 is almost identical in performance to an i7 yet it cost over $100 less.
Integrated graphics do have one handy feature though. if your graphics card takes a dump its good to have an emergency backup.
AMD on the other hand has done a fantastic job and APU chips (A6, A8,A10 ect) do a pretty stand up job on their own. my son has an A10 and no graphics card and he can still play plenty of games like World of warcraft, Diablo III ect...
If you want to save a little you can get a Xeon Chip which does not have built in graphics yet is functionally the same as any i5 or i7. for example my Xeon E3-1230v3 is almost identical in performance to an i7 yet it cost over $100 less.
Integrated graphics do have one handy feature though. if your graphics card takes a dump its good to have an emergency backup.
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The Xeon E3 chips I believe all fit the 1150 boards just like most of the i3, i5 and i7 chips. They do have the disadvantage of not being easily overclockable. by default you cannto Overclock them though if you really want to you can climb in there and force them to but that is another story.
The E3 compared to an i7 4790K I would say the winner is the i7 because it has a faster clockspeed. most of the Xeon E3 chips max out at 3.3-3.5Ghz.
The E3 compared to an i7 4790K I would say the winner is the i7 because it has a faster clockspeed. most of the Xeon E3 chips max out at 3.3-3.5Ghz.
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To get high clock speeds with Xeon you have to switch to the LGA1366 platform (and spend several thousand dollars on the chips)
We have crazy machines at work with 8 Core Ivy Bridge E Xeons. They'll shoot up to 4.1Ghz when they feel like it. And even crazier configs with dual 12 Core chips, not as fast on the clock speed though. Dell T7610.
We have crazy machines at work with 8 Core Ivy Bridge E Xeons. They'll shoot up to 4.1Ghz when they feel like it. And even crazier configs with dual 12 Core chips, not as fast on the clock speed though. Dell T7610.
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Xeon E3 and the iCore series both run on the 1150 platform so they are for the most part interchangeable. for example I could yank my chip right now and drop an i7 in there and it would work.
The Xeon E5 and E7 chips are what Eximo is talking about. For those chips you need a 2011 platform and as he pointed out, you can get some crazy stuff. 12 core chips with 24 threads an 30MB cache oh my
But those ae 100% enterprise solutions and have little practical use in the desktop world. For you and me 4 cores is plenty. When I first got my Xeon I opened up every application I had an threw a few hundred Gigs of file transfers around and I think I even streamed a few videos....and I think MAYBE it pushed my CPU to 40%. For my average workload I rarely top 10%. the same will be true of an i7.
The Xeon E5 and E7 chips are what Eximo is talking about. For those chips you need a 2011 platform and as he pointed out, you can get some crazy stuff. 12 core chips with 24 threads an 30MB cache oh my
But those ae 100% enterprise solutions and have little practical use in the desktop world. For you and me 4 cores is plenty. When I first got my Xeon I opened up every application I had an threw a few hundred Gigs of file transfers around and I think I even streamed a few videos....and I think MAYBE it pushed my CPU to 40%. For my average workload I rarely top 10%. the same will be true of an i7.
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Xeon E3 and the iCore series both run on the 1150 platform so they are for the most part interchangeable. for example I could yank my chip right now and drop an i7 in there and it would work.
The Xeon E5 and E7 chips are what Eximo is talking about. For those chips you need a 2011 platform and as he pointed out, you can get some crazy stuff. 12 core chips with 24 threads an 30MB cache oh my
But those ae 100% enterprise solutions and have little practical use in the desktop world. For you and me 4 cores is plenty. When I first got my Xeon I opened up every application I had an threw a few hundred Gigs of file transfers around and I think I even streamed a few videos....and I think MAYBE it pushed my CPU to 40%. For my average workload I rarely top 10%. the same will be true of an i7.
The Xeon E5 and E7 chips are what Eximo is talking about. For those chips you need a 2011 platform and as he pointed out, you can get some crazy stuff. 12 core chips with 24 threads an 30MB cache oh my
But those ae 100% enterprise solutions and have little practical use in the desktop world. For you and me 4 cores is plenty. When I first got my Xeon I opened up every application I had an threw a few hundred Gigs of file transfers around and I think I even streamed a few videos....and I think MAYBE it pushed my CPU to 40%. For my average workload I rarely top 10%. the same will be true of an i7.
Freudian slip, I did mean LGA2011, LGA1366 is the original workstation class I series boards.
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