Integrated to dedicated?
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 2:50:26 AM
Hello. I currently have a bad computer (hp model: CQ5604F) and I play a lot of games. The computer has a 250w psu, nVidia geforce 6150se nforce 430 integrated graphics.
Games I play: League of Legends, Path of Exile (cannot currently run it), World of Warcraft.
My question: Regarding LoL and WoW, I get around 18-30 fps on lowest settings and with me having absolutely nothing running. Would buying ANY dedicated graphics card raise my fps? No, I CANNOT upgrade my PSU at the moment. I would be looking to spend < 50$ on a card.
Yes, I realize I could not get any sort of medium-high end card with these specifications, but would ANY possible card increase my fps/performance? If so, what card, and how much fps/performance can I expect to gain?
Thanks a bunch.
Games I play: League of Legends, Path of Exile (cannot currently run it), World of Warcraft.
My question: Regarding LoL and WoW, I get around 18-30 fps on lowest settings and with me having absolutely nothing running. Would buying ANY dedicated graphics card raise my fps? No, I CANNOT upgrade my PSU at the moment. I would be looking to spend < 50$ on a card.
Yes, I realize I could not get any sort of medium-high end card with these specifications, but would ANY possible card increase my fps/performance? If so, what card, and how much fps/performance can I expect to gain?
Thanks a bunch.
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Just about any card eg gt 610 or R7 240 will be better. The GTX750 is better than any of these and uses less power. But costs $100
Youd get 100fps on the same settings. - http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=884&gid2=3...
Youd get 100fps on the same settings. - http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=884&gid2=3...
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 3:05:46 AM
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:09:45 AM
So by upgrading from my integrated graphics to that GTX750, I'd gain over 70 FPS? That sounds wonderful, but it's a little over double what I'd be able to spend. Would you be able to recommend any other cards that would work in my 250w psu, and give me an idea of how much performance I'd gain? Thanks a ton, by the way.
EDIT: @i7Baby
EDIT: @i7Baby
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:11:34 AM
Slobodan-888 said:
Yeah, just about any discrete graphic card will get you a lot better performance. What is your CPU?
How much better performance do you think? Any suggestions for a 250w psu on a ~50$ budget?
Also, my entire computer-specs are listed here:
http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/template.PAG...
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:16:33 AM
i7Baby said:
Even the gtx750 is supposed to have 350W. All the others will need more. So unless you are willing to upgrade your PSU, I couldn't recommend anything else.So there are absolutely no dedicated graphics cards I could use with my 250w psu that would increase the fps I get in games, compared to my integrated graphics?
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:21:33 AM
Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 3:24:40 AM
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 3:27:57 AM
iAboodz
August 28, 2014 3:29:57 AM
Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:32:01 AM
i7Baby said:
Older cards used even more power.So the card uses very little amounts of psu and the price is very managable, excellent. How much FPS would I be looking to gain from switching to this card from my integrated graphics? And why do you say that I CAN actually upgrade, whereas i7Baby says I cannot upgrade period?
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:33:29 AM
iAboodz said:
a 250w is not the ideal psu for upgrading, you can get an nvidia gt 610 but i really not recommend it as its still a low psu. get a cheap 500w or 400w and you will be rocking a gtx 750So even a very low-psu card like the GT 610 wouldn't work with a 250w psu? If it would work, what would the performance increase be like?
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iAboodz
August 28, 2014 3:34:47 AM
Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 3:35:49 AM
GT610 is a lot weaker than gxt750 - http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-750-vs-GeForce-GT-6...
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iAboodz
August 28, 2014 3:39:14 AM
Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:39:48 AM
@iAboodz - What do you think the chances of success would be, and, if you had to guess, what kind of FPS gain would I be seeing?
@Slobodan-888 - What makes you so sure, compared to the others? And could you go ahead and make an educated guess at the performance increase?
@i7Baby - I completely understand that. The only issue is the PSU-usage and price of the GTX 750.
@Slobodan-888 - What makes you so sure, compared to the others? And could you go ahead and make an educated guess at the performance increase?
@i7Baby - I completely understand that. The only issue is the PSU-usage and price of the GTX 750.
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 3:40:55 AM
i7Baby said:
GT610 is a lot weaker than gxt750 - http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-750-vs-GeForce-GT-6...He can't even afford gxt750...
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 3:44:14 AM
Afflictedx said:
@Slobodan-888 - What makes you so sure, compared to the others? And could you go ahead and make an educated guess at the performance increase?About performance, I can't.
About power consumption. Because as an electronics engineer, I think that I now a bit more than some IT guys and various "wikipedia experts"...
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:44:18 AM
Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 3:45:16 AM
Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:47:14 AM
Slobodan-888 said:
Afflictedx said:
@Slobodan-888 - What makes you so sure, compared to the others? And could you go ahead and make an educated guess at the performance increase?About performance, I can't.
About power consumption. Because as an electronic engineer, I think that I now a bit more than some IT guys and various "wikipedia experts"...
Slobodan-888 said:
What is the max power consumption of AMD Athlon II 170u?Any idea how I could find this out? I don't know off-hand, and you probably have a lot more knowledge than I do.
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 3:50:52 AM
Based on this: http://cpuboss.com/cpu/AMD-Athlon-II-170u
It is only 16.25W typical (so like 30 W max). If this is true, than you can run without problem, even more powerfull cards.
It is only 16.25W typical (so like 30 W max). If this is true, than you can run without problem, even more powerfull cards.
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iAboodz
August 28, 2014 3:51:18 AM
Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 3:57:10 AM
Thanks everyone for the answers. It seems that I could POTENTIALLY run this Geforce 610 on my 250w psu, but the question is, would I gain a noticable FPS increase from doing this? Could any of you just SPECULATE on what I could expect to get with my current system? I would only be looking to buy this in order to gain a performance increase in the games I play, so I'd like at least an idea of the possible increase. (You can use 20 as the base number for the current FPS I get, in terms of upgrading, if need be)
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 4:09:06 AM
Here you go (just for rough reference):
Integrated GPU: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=17114&g...
With GT 610: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=17114&g...
Change System Requirement Type from "recommended" to "minimum".
Integrated GPU: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=17114&g...
With GT 610: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=17114&g...
Change System Requirement Type from "recommended" to "minimum".
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 4:16:03 AM
Slobodan-888 said:
Here you go (just for rough reference):Integrated GPU: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=17114&g...
With GT 610: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=17114&g...
Change System Requirement Type from "recommended" to "minimum".
Thanks very much, although I wish I had a premium account to view the FPS-specifics. In your opinion, does that FPS increase look substantial to you?
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 4:22:16 AM
Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 4:24:42 AM
Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 4:27:19 AM
Slobodan-888 said:
I don't have premium account either. So I don't know. But as you can see, your integrated GPU does not satisfy the minimum requirements while GT 610 does.Would meeting the minimum requirements suddenly give an increase to FPS? I understand that this card is not good by any means, but it my head, it just seems like ANY kind of dedicated graphics card MUST increase my fps in games by a decent margin. Am I wrong?
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 4:32:55 AM
Integrated: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+6...
GT 610: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+G...
The difference is huge.
It is still a relatively week card, but compared to the integrated it is a lot more powerful.
GT 610: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+G...
The difference is huge.
It is still a relatively week card, but compared to the integrated it is a lot more powerful.
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 4:36:09 AM
Slobodan-888 said:
Integrated: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+6...GT 610: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+G...
The difference is huge.
It is still a week card, but compared to the integrated it is a lot more powerful.
So, in conclusion, would you suggest getting this card for my situation, with the intent of gaining decent fps (10-20 at lowest settings?) Even with my 250w psu?
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Slobodan-888
August 28, 2014 4:46:16 AM
If I was you, I would buy it. You have nothing to lose and can only gain. If you are not satisfied with the performance increase, you can return the card and get your money back. I think that in many countries you have something like "no matter what" first 7 day return policy or something like that. And it is a cheap card anyway.
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Afflictedx
August 28, 2014 4:47:38 AM
Slobodan-888 said:
If I was you, I would buy it. You have nothing to lose and can only gain. If you are not satisfied with the performance increase, you can return the card and get your money back. I think that in many countries you have something like "no matter what" first 7 day return policy or something like that. And it is a cheap card anyway.Thank you sir. You've been a massive help, and thanks to everyone else who has replied. I will TRY to update this thread with the results if I remember.
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Afflictedx
September 24, 2014 6:31:24 AM
UPDATE: Since I remembered, I decided to go ahead and post an update here, just in case someone comes along from Google or something and has the same problem. I ended up going with the Radeon 6450 HD, with my 250w psu and it works perfectly. I can now play Diablo 3, Path of Exile, among other games which I could not before, along with FPS gains of 20-30 in some games I could already play, E.G: League. If you're in a similiar scenario, I HIGHLY recommend going ahead and upgrading until you can afford your monster computer.
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