ASUS x99 mobo doesn't boot up (black screen) after overclocking of any level.
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harvard1932
August 30, 2014 6:59:56 PM
I am having this issue with ASUS x99 deluxe mobo. It works fine with extremely low temperature on stock clocking speed and everything.
However, when I try to OC it with their dual intelligent processor or going into the BIOs to OC the computer automatically? It would restart the computer (to apply the changes), and then the computer would start but stuck on no signal screen (not even signal to my monitors).
The only way I would get back is: to reboot the system again and it would go in overclock recovery mode for me to restore everything back to default.... That's the only way for me to use the computer (which is in default mode for everything).
I don't know if this is bio issue because I updated the bios to the latest version already... and it is giving me the same response.
I wonder if any experts in tomshardware can help me out. I would greatly appreciate any ideas that might help. Thanks!
However, when I try to OC it with their dual intelligent processor or going into the BIOs to OC the computer automatically? It would restart the computer (to apply the changes), and then the computer would start but stuck on no signal screen (not even signal to my monitors).
The only way I would get back is: to reboot the system again and it would go in overclock recovery mode for me to restore everything back to default.... That's the only way for me to use the computer (which is in default mode for everything).
I don't know if this is bio issue because I updated the bios to the latest version already... and it is giving me the same response.
I wonder if any experts in tomshardware can help me out. I would greatly appreciate any ideas that might help. Thanks!
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What adjustments are you making for the overclock. Sounds like you are either trying to reach too high too fast by not making small adjustments first or are setting the multiplier too high without sufficient voltage. It could be something else entirely but that's what it sounds like. Since the x99 boards are brand new it might take some time to work out the bugs.
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harvard1932
August 30, 2014 7:20:07 PM
darkbreeze said:
What adjustments are you making for the overclock. Sounds like you are either trying to reach too high too fast by not making small adjustments first or are setting the multiplier too high without sufficient voltage. It could be something else entirely but that's what it sounds like. Since the x99 boards are brand new it might take some time to work out the bugs.I am not going off the scale type of OC... even 5% more clock speed gives me that issue
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harvard1932
August 30, 2014 8:38:21 PM
harvard1932
August 30, 2014 9:36:38 PM
Hah. Ok, don't take this wrong, but you sound just like every other guy that comes here asking for help and then immediately it's "no, that's not the issue". Fully 75% of PC related problems we solve on these forums are directly related to cheap inferior power supplies. And if you ask anybody who's been around here for any time at all, or any moderator AT ALL, they will all tell you that RAIDMAX is just about the biggest offender of making cheap and crappy PSU's.
Most PSU manufacturers and branded distributors have both good and bad models of PSU which is why it's important to know the model number so we can determine if you have one that's on the the third tier or higher or one of their bottom of the barrel models. Unfortunately for you, RAIDMAX is one of the few well known brands that DOES NOT have a good model. If it's made by them, it's junk. Period.
Below is a list to the Tom's power supply tier list so you can see for yourself. Please feel free to ask for second opinions as well, but you'll get the same answer. And so you know, a cheap OR faulty PSU can cause identical symptoms, problems and faults as basically every other component in your system, because it supplies the power directly TO every component in your system. Windows errors, RAM errors, problems that look like a motherboard issue, overclocking issues, CPU base clock issues, GPU card problems and every single other thing you can think of that could go wrong with a computer can be simulated by a weak psu or in all reality, caused by a poorly manufactured psu.
Even problems that actually are with a hardware component, more times than not were CAUSED by the PSU in the first place. So before you go thinking it's not the PSU, you need to do some more homework. That PSU is likely barely capable of supporting your system at stock clocks much less at ANY overclock. So, it IS likely the problem. It might not be, but if those were my expensive components installed I would want that PSU out of there asap before any of them are damaged. Here is the tier list and another link you might want to read up on.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-psu-re...
Most PSU manufacturers and branded distributors have both good and bad models of PSU which is why it's important to know the model number so we can determine if you have one that's on the the third tier or higher or one of their bottom of the barrel models. Unfortunately for you, RAIDMAX is one of the few well known brands that DOES NOT have a good model. If it's made by them, it's junk. Period.
Below is a list to the Tom's power supply tier list so you can see for yourself. Please feel free to ask for second opinions as well, but you'll get the same answer. And so you know, a cheap OR faulty PSU can cause identical symptoms, problems and faults as basically every other component in your system, because it supplies the power directly TO every component in your system. Windows errors, RAM errors, problems that look like a motherboard issue, overclocking issues, CPU base clock issues, GPU card problems and every single other thing you can think of that could go wrong with a computer can be simulated by a weak psu or in all reality, caused by a poorly manufactured psu.
Even problems that actually are with a hardware component, more times than not were CAUSED by the PSU in the first place. So before you go thinking it's not the PSU, you need to do some more homework. That PSU is likely barely capable of supporting your system at stock clocks much less at ANY overclock. So, it IS likely the problem. It might not be, but if those were my expensive components installed I would want that PSU out of there asap before any of them are damaged. Here is the tier list and another link you might want to read up on.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-psu-re...
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harvard1932
August 30, 2014 10:11:48 PM
I hope you didn't pick that as the solution just to close the thread. I'd really like to help you with your issue but before you OC at any amount, please get a decent PSU. You spent too much money to skimp on the heart of the system. When you do get one, if you still have an issue, myself and lot's of others here will be MORE than happy to help you solve it.
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harvard1932
August 30, 2014 10:16:59 PM
darkbreeze said:
I hope you didn't pick that as the solution just to close the thread. I'd really like to help you with your issue but before you OC at any amount, please get a decent PSU. You spent too much money to skimp on the heart of the system. When you do get one, if you still have an issue, myself and lot's of others here will be MORE than happy to help you solve it.Switching a PSU is easy, I can do it anytime I like.... However, right now I am having this real issue of unable to OC without the entire computer just dying on me. I am looking for some real solutions for the problem than some side PSU issue
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Ok, I can see you didn't get the point. Anybody, ANYBODY, can get rated. It doesn't mean anything about the quality of the PSU. It has nothing whatsoever to do with that. That rating is an efficiency rating. It has to do with power consumption, not quality. It's really just a marketing gimmick. The following quote comes straight from HARDOCP and there are ton's more out there that even spell it out better but the bottom line is that it doesn't take much to get a good efficiency rating, in fact, they take the companies word for it in most cases without any verification testing other than ECOS who's been proven to be a questionable organization at best.
The Bottom Line
If you are shopping for a new power supply and you want to buy a more efficient power supply because you think it is an environmentally responsible idea, by all means do it. If you want to buy a more efficient power supply because it also means a higher quality unit, and IF that has been verified by someone other than ECOS, by all means do it.
If you want to buy a more efficient PSU because you think 80 PLUS® means it is a better built PSU that will pay you your price premium back quickly, or that it might be a significantly more efficient PSU based on the ECOS 80 PLUS® certification, please just remember we think 80 PLUS® is irrelevant.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrel...
The Bottom Line
If you are shopping for a new power supply and you want to buy a more efficient power supply because you think it is an environmentally responsible idea, by all means do it. If you want to buy a more efficient power supply because it also means a higher quality unit, and IF that has been verified by someone other than ECOS, by all means do it.
If you want to buy a more efficient PSU because you think 80 PLUS® means it is a better built PSU that will pay you your price premium back quickly, or that it might be a significantly more efficient PSU based on the ECOS 80 PLUS® certification, please just remember we think 80 PLUS® is irrelevant.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrel...
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Well, when you end up having to buy another motherboard and cpu because you were too stubborn to listen, don't come crying, you were warned. And obviously you didn't get the point. You DON'T have time. You CAN'T change it anytime you want. If you had any interest in really knowing what was wrong with your rig you would take the time to at least CONSIDER the seriousness of what I'm telling you. Cheap PSU's BURN RIGS UP. Literally, they fry boards, cpu's, GPU's and cause fires every single fracking day. But, good luck at the ASUS forum. Maybe one of them will give you the answer you want instead of the one you need.
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harvard1932 said:
darkbreeze said:
I hope you didn't pick that as the solution just to close the thread. I'd really like to help you with your issue but before you OC at any amount, please get a decent PSU. You spent too much money to skimp on the heart of the system. When you do get one, if you still have an issue, myself and lot's of others here will be MORE than happy to help you solve it.Switching a PSU is easy, I can do it anytime I like.... However, right now I am having this real issue of unable to OC without the entire computer just dying on me. I am looking for some real solutions for the problem than some side PSU issue
See, you don't get it, obviously. The entire computer is dying on you due to the PSU, almost 100% guaranteed. You go to those other forums and you give them the link to this thread and you ask them what they think. Every one of them that has any experience at all will confirm all I've told you.
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harvard1932
August 30, 2014 11:32:55 PM
harvard1932
August 31, 2014 12:00:19 AM
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Actually, I said almost 100% guaranteed, not 100% guaranteed. It's an expression we use in English speaking countries. It doesn't mean that there can be no other possibility. It just means the chances of it being something else are a WHOLE lot less likely than the chances that it is. And you are obstinate. Stubborn as a mule. Anybody who can't consider a possibility other than what they've already got in their heads as the likely cause, is stubborn.
I can admit maybe the PSU ISN'T the problem. Why can't you admit maybe it IS? I'll bet good money you didn't even bother to read the articles I gave you links to. You know why? Because you think you know better than this entire community and no matter if every single member came here and posted on this thread that it was likely to be the PSU, you would still refuse to accept it. You know why? Because your stubborn and obstinate, that's why. Change your damn PSU, then you can overclock the damn thing all you want.
I can admit maybe the PSU ISN'T the problem. Why can't you admit maybe it IS? I'll bet good money you didn't even bother to read the articles I gave you links to. You know why? Because you think you know better than this entire community and no matter if every single member came here and posted on this thread that it was likely to be the PSU, you would still refuse to accept it. You know why? Because your stubborn and obstinate, that's why. Change your damn PSU, then you can overclock the damn thing all you want.
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harvard1932
August 31, 2014 12:55:17 AM
OCing 5% extra clock speed, would cause computer not give signal but it is still powered on. <--- this symptom already tells you a lot about the problem.
And yet it handles games like BF4 on normal clock speed just fine? Again, support your solution with actual reasoning.
I don't even really care if I will switch the PSU out because I can easily drop by store and turn it in for another brand. However, the chance of it fixing the problem just same as eating cookie as a cure for cancer.
And yet it handles games like BF4 on normal clock speed just fine? Again, support your solution with actual reasoning.
I don't even really care if I will switch the PSU out because I can easily drop by store and turn it in for another brand. However, the chance of it fixing the problem just same as eating cookie as a cure for cancer.
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harvard1932
August 31, 2014 1:12:52 AM
Look darkbreeze, I will drop by the store these days and change my PSU.
It honestly really doesn't make any sense because raidmax have nearly the same amount of positive review than "top tier" brands such as crosair. They are both just the tools to provide power to the mobo.... And one would give OC problems that is handled by mobo?
As expert you should at least instead of telling people to do it, provide some reasons that is conclusive to the problem. But we will see once I change PSU.
It honestly really doesn't make any sense because raidmax have nearly the same amount of positive review than "top tier" brands such as crosair. They are both just the tools to provide power to the mobo.... And one would give OC problems that is handled by mobo?
As expert you should at least instead of telling people to do it, provide some reasons that is conclusive to the problem. But we will see once I change PSU.
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They , Raidmax are very very unreliable \ unstable power supplies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezk9OA7aKOE
Raidmax supplies were used in this Video and the model is still for sale on the market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezk9OA7aKOE
Raidmax supplies were used in this Video and the model is still for sale on the market.
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Saga Lout said:
Maybe a quick reversal to default values in the BIOS would help if not too much damage has already been done.SR-71 Blackbird said:
They , Raidmax are very very unreliable \ unstable power supplies.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezk9OA7aKOE
Raidmax supplies were used in this Video and the model is still for sale on the market.
That's what I'm trying to say. Thanks blackbird.
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harvard1932 said:
As expert you should at least instead of telling people to do it, provide some reasons that is conclusive to the problem. But we will see once I change PSU. Ok, honestly? I listed at least six good reasons. How many reasons do you think are necessary. Personally, for my hard earned money, protecting my components at base clocks before ever attempting an OC is priority #1 and I for one only need one decent reason to convince ME of that. If you consider that in some cases simply touching the CPU or motherboard is enough to destroy it with static electricity you can imagine what even the smallest of shorts in a cheap power supply can do when connected directly to the graphics card, motherboard and processor.
And Harvard, make sure you get a PSU that's listed on the third tier or above on the link I posted for you or you are just replacing one problem with another. Make sure of the model or series and wattage as well. One particular brand may have many good and bad models, and even within a model or series family some may be very reliable while others are not. That is why some models on the tier list specifically note things like "750w and up" to indicate other part numbers in that family are not to be considered to have the same level of reliability.
If the PSU you are looking into isn't on the list at all just ask and one of the experts here with knowledge of that unit will be glad to give it a thumbs up, or down, depending on it's track record.
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harvard1932
August 31, 2014 12:56:12 PM
Not for nothing. Now you can move forward with diagnosing your overclock feeling safe regarding your system instead of doing so with that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach that's telling you something bad is going to happen with that horrible RAIDMAX PSU. So now, I'm sure somebody here will be happy to help you. I'm not really feeling like making the attempt when it's obvious you have serious entitlement issues and no regard for those trying to help. I'm not going to continue making efforts to help somebody who just wants to be insulting and disrespectful. Good luck.
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harvard1932
August 31, 2014 2:32:37 PM
darkbreeze said:
Not for nothing. Now you can move forward with diagnosing your overclock feeling safe regarding your system instead of doing so with that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach that's telling you something bad is going to happen with that horrible RAIDMAX PSU. So now, I'm sure somebody here will be happy to help you. I'm not really feeling like making the attempt when it's obvious you have serious entitlement issues and no regard for those trying to help. I'm not going to continue making efforts to help somebody who just wants to be insulting and disrespectful. Good luck.You provided a solution with literally no reasoning behind it, that supports the problem itself. I was never insulting or disrespectful (you can quote me from all of the posts I had made).
Again, I need a real expert on this. I don't want assumptions that is way too off the line.
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harvard1932
August 31, 2014 4:07:29 PM
Garrun
September 22, 2014 12:23:43 PM
harvard1932 said:
Problem fixed. I have to do manual overclocking still. Now I got it 4.35 Ghz. Thanks everyone for helping out. But in the end.. still ASUS's automated OC software have issues.
Hey - if you are still reading this, I am having the same issue with posting to black screen with no signal immediately after video init on loading Windows. What settings did you come up with that fixed it for you?
I have a few things I am going to try tonight (one suspicion is that the Bclk from the XMP profile in my RAM isn't happy with my video card) and I'm going to boot Linux from USB to try to confirm if it is pure hardware or Windows specific. I'd be curious to hear what worked for you though and what other suggestions were. I think the last OC that I tried was Bclk 100, 1.175vcore, 40x multiplier, no other changes, but even when I reverted to stock, I was having trouble booting. I might also try HDMI instead of DP and 1080p res instead of 4k to see if it is something odd about that.
Specs:
X99 Deluxe
5960x
Corsair H110 cooler
Corsair 2666 DDR4 CMK16GX4M4A2666C15R
EVGA GTX 980 SC
2X Samsung EVO 840 1T
Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Samsung 4k monitor over DP
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chodamoyer
September 22, 2014 9:18:22 PM
Garrun, I'd do the same with trying to boot from Linux. it's possible windows got messed up during your overclock and needs a repair. it seems like you can at least get back to the bios but it's the loading of windows that is giving you problems, is that correct? v core of 1.175 ? I'm not an overclocking expert, but looks on the lowish end for sjuch a high multiplier?
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chodamoyer
September 22, 2014 9:24:28 PM
reading this whole thread was a bit entertaining. trying to give positive advice can sometimes backfire and even when you are pretty sure you are correct it's always just a guess no matter how educated b/c we cannot do scientific experiments via this website . people that take advice from this website or from anyone must realize they are solely responsible for their actions and cannot hold others that are only trying to help for problems they are having. anyone that asks for free help and complains about the quality of it really needs to take some responsibility and be appreciative of any help they may or may not get.
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Garrun
September 23, 2014 6:29:14 AM
chodamoyer said:
Garrun, I'd do the same with trying to boot from Linux. it's possible windows got messed up during your overclock and needs a repair. it seems like you can at least get back to the bios but it's the loading of windows that is giving you problems, is that correct? v core of 1.175 ? I'm not an overclocking expert, but looks on the lowish end for sjuch a high multiplier?I did a lot more testing last night, and the computer is completely stable once booted. I need to do a dozen or so more reboots before I'm convinced the boot issues are gone, but I think they are for now. I'll describe some of it in case someone else finds this post with the same problem...
I tried a LOT of different things, so it is hard to be sure, but at the end of the day, I think the root problem was that the DDR4 memory wasn't stable at stock voltages. Ironically, once I switched to the XMP1 profile, the system got a lot more stable. After that, I also added an OC to the CPU and video and did an overnight burn in with furmark, core burner, and some downloads going with no problems. CPU OC was 125x35 = 4375 mhz @ 1.2v. DDR4 was 2666 @ 1.2v. On the video, I went to 1350 on the CPU and 7500 on the memory. I also did quite a few BIOS tweaks such as forcing PCIe 3.0 on the lanes, disabling unused PCIe slots, etc. One other thing I did was to disable onboard sound and put in a Sound Blaster Z card. I didn't like the software with the on board card and am much happier with the SBZ, which I use to toggle between output to headphone studio monitors and .optical out to an amp. The only reason I list it as a troubleshooting step was due to the driver update weirdness in my initial post. I have not yet experienced the SBz issues with x99 chipset that some have reported. Another change was to update my video driver for the 980 to the beta 344.16 (which I think went WHQL today). I never had the system crash when booting Linux from CD, but it wasn't initializing the 4k display over DP there either. As a reminder, that was ALWAYS the point that it locked up for me during Windows boot - it would get tot he part where it would initialize the display for the login screen and instead drop signal and lock up. Ok... have to work. Hope this helps someone. I'd be interested in hearing back if anyone ever comes up with a definitive solution.
EDIT - also just remembered I enabled a 3 second boot delay in bios, turned off fast boot, and disabled wifi and bluetooth since I don't use them. Another note for reference - temps were mid 40's at idle and mid 60's at load with MB temp staying around 35 and room temp around 22. Power load from wall was 433W under burn-in load with a single GTX 980.
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chodamoyer
September 23, 2014 9:37:31 AM
garrun,
there is a lot going on there, so i am only going to venture a guess. given that it seemed you were having problem loading your 980 video card driver when booting then your driver update could be what solved your problem.
also 1.2 volts seems a lot more reasonable. i'm at 1.3 and am getting 4.425 ghz.
there is a lot going on there, so i am only going to venture a guess. given that it seemed you were having problem loading your 980 video card driver when booting then your driver update could be what solved your problem.
also 1.2 volts seems a lot more reasonable. i'm at 1.3 and am getting 4.425 ghz.
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unmeaty
September 27, 2014 10:27:28 PM
harvard1932 said:
darkbreeze said:
What adjustments are you making for the overclock. Sounds like you are either trying to reach too high too fast by not making small adjustments first or are setting the multiplier too high without sufficient voltage. It could be something else entirely but that's what it sounds like. Since the x99 boards are brand new it might take some time to work out the bugs.I am not going off the scale type of OC... even 5% more clock speed gives me that issue
I'm having the exact same problem with my Asrock Extreme 6 x99. Runs perfectly fine when the CPU and RAM are at stock speed, but if I over clock either even a tiny bit it causes massive instability, voltage boost or not. Before I updated the BIOS it wouldn't even start, after two BIOS upgrades it will start but randomly freeze up. I'm attributing this to the newness of this chip set, processor and DDR4 RAM. Since BIOS updates have helped somewhat, I have to believe it's just growing pains.
Life on the bleeding edge.
Edit:
My rig:
Asrock x99 Extreme6 MB
Intel Haswell-E 5930K CPU
G Skill Ripjaw 4 PC4-21300 2666hz DDR4 RAM (4x4GB)
Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler
Plextor M5Pro Xtreme 512GB SSD
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 480GB SSD
2xWD Black 1TB HDD
WD Black 4 TB HDD
2xEVGA GTX 980 SC GPU in SLI
Soundblaster ZxR sound card
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 Power Supply
Windows 7 64 Home Premium
That PSU was running a similar system before with a 3770K which I believe does draw less power than the 5930K, but it was also powering 2 780 Tis instead of 2 980s, which have a much lower TDP. I don't think power is the issue.
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unres
September 29, 2014 11:34:45 AM
Hello everyone
I have had the same issues with OCing as harvard1932.
If i used XMP to use 2800 Mhz profile it would not go through POST giving me Q-Code error BD and 67. Tried everything and started to figure out that the error was there when BCLK was at 125 Mhz.
So I OCed with RAM at 2400 Mhz BCLK @ 100 ratio @ 42 would take just fine and was stable. But that was not enough for me when i have 2800 Mhz RAM so I tried again. I finally found a solution to my problem:
I disabled DRAM TIMING --> (at bottom) "ATTEMPT FAST BOOT" and "ATTEMPT FAST COLD BOOT".
I have not had a problem since. My OC is now:
BCLK @ 125
RATIO @ 33
RAM @ 2800 Mhz
Let me know if this helps anyone
My rig
5960x
ASUS X99-A
Corsair Vengeance LPX 2800 Mhz
Corsair 850 WATT PSU
Noctua NH-D15
OCZ 3 250 GB SSD
2 X 780 SLI OC
Yours UNRES
I have had the same issues with OCing as harvard1932.
If i used XMP to use 2800 Mhz profile it would not go through POST giving me Q-Code error BD and 67. Tried everything and started to figure out that the error was there when BCLK was at 125 Mhz.
So I OCed with RAM at 2400 Mhz BCLK @ 100 ratio @ 42 would take just fine and was stable. But that was not enough for me when i have 2800 Mhz RAM so I tried again. I finally found a solution to my problem:
I disabled DRAM TIMING --> (at bottom) "ATTEMPT FAST BOOT" and "ATTEMPT FAST COLD BOOT".
I have not had a problem since. My OC is now:
BCLK @ 125
RATIO @ 33
RAM @ 2800 Mhz
Let me know if this helps anyone
My rig
5960x
ASUS X99-A
Corsair Vengeance LPX 2800 Mhz
Corsair 850 WATT PSU
Noctua NH-D15
OCZ 3 250 GB SSD
2 X 780 SLI OC
Yours UNRES
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