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August 31, 2014 6:52:55 AM

I made a similar post a while ago, but now have changed around the parts and need to ask again. Does this build look like it will last a while with more demanding games coming out? I think all the parts are compatible, but will they fit in the case? That's the main reason I haven't purchased the parts yet. I can't figure out if they will fit in the case. I know this is likely excessive information, but I want to make sure it will all work out. Here are the parts I was thinking:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU: Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor

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August 31, 2014 6:59:00 AM

crazylegs830 said:
I made a similar post a while ago, but now have changed around the parts and need to ask again. Does this build look like it will last a while with more demanding games coming out? I think all the parts are compatible, but will they fit in the case? That's the main reason I haven't purchased the parts yet. I can't figure out if they will fit in the case. I know this is likely excessive information, but I want to make sure it will all work out. Here are the parts I was thinking:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU: Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor

1, I would get the 4690K and a Z97 board for Broadwell
2, Try to get 1866 CL9 RAM as that's the sweet spot for gaming
3, Unless you will run multi-monitor/high-resolution gaming/Watch_Dogs, the 4 GB of VRAM isn't really needed.
4, If you can spend a bit more on the GPU, you can get a R9 290.
5, If you will run SLI, I would suggest getting a 850-1000 watt PSU.
Other than that, you're good to go!
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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2014 6:59:43 AM

get a z87 board instead
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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2014 7:05:33 AM

legend001523 said:
get a z87 board instead

Won't you need a BIOS update?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2014 7:08:37 AM

^ no, cause it's a 4670k, not a 4690k
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August 31, 2014 7:27:31 AM

zeyuanfu said:
1, I would get the 4690K and a Z97 board for Broadwell


For the OP, the i5-4690K is a higher bin of the same cpu you have, so it will overclock better. I assume you will overclock as you went for a K edition.

An H series motherboard doesn't make sense when paired with a K series CPU as the K is unlocked and the H has no special support for overclocking.

Z87 vs Z97: the 97 is obviously better but you might want to look for motherboards in both categories and let their features determine for you.


zeyuanfu said:
2, Try to get 1866 CL9 RAM as that's the sweet spot for gaming


If you have the spare money you might want to consider this upgrade.

zeyuanfu said:
3, Unless you will run multi-monitor/high-resolution gaming/Watch_Dogs, the 4 GB of VRAM isn't really needed.


True the 2GB editions should be more than enough.

zeyuanfu said:
4, If you can spend a bit more on the GPU, you can get a R9 290.


True though I'm guessing he likes nvidia and you are already suggesting him to spend a bit of extra. (OP you might want to give a budget)


zeyuanfu said:
5, If you will run SLI, I would suggest getting a 850-1000 watt PSU.


Assuming you overclock both CPU and GPU I'm guessing you will use between 350 and 400 watt of power, about a small 100w of that is for the CPU. So 650w is cutting it close if you want to be able to add another GPU but I wouldn't look much over the 850w.

Just saying windows 8.1 is ok (win 8 was not and created a bad name, well its windows so it's always not great but what are you gonna do for gaming) and might be cheaper than win 7.

About fitting it in your case, you can remove the HDD cages so even long cards should fit. Again assuming you are overclocking you might want to check the height of your aftermarket cooler with the case specs (it should be stated somewhere how big is allowed).

And if extra money is available you could consider an SSD, say 128GB or something as your boot disk. Will not help games that much (unless you install them on it and they had load issues in the first place) but will improve OS performance a lot and boot time becomes a good 10 sec.
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August 31, 2014 7:36:45 AM

Selenog said:

True though I'm guessing he likes nvidia and you are already suggesting him to spend a bit of extra.

True:) 
I'm kinda reluctant to suggest AMD cards... Not because I'm a fanboy (OK, maybe) but AMD cards generally tend to get hot and noisy... And their drivers, aie aie aie...
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August 31, 2014 7:41:59 AM

zeyuanfu said:
Selenog said:

True though I'm guessing he likes nvidia and you are already suggesting him to spend a bit of extra.

True:) 
I'm kinda reluctant to suggest AMD cards... Not because I'm a fanboy (OK, maybe) but AMD cards generally tend to get hot and noisy... And their drivers, aie aie aie...


You really need to get rid of that mindset... I'm a proud owner of an Hd 7950 and it runs very cool and quiet( around 53C load, 38C Idle) and with the latest drivers I have zero problems.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2014 7:42:38 AM

^ Only 290/290x had heat problems too
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August 31, 2014 8:05:53 AM

Hmmm. Thanks guys. I don't intend on overclocking I just was picking up the 4670k because it was the same price as the 4670 on Newegg (a sale). How do these changes sound?

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
PSU: Rosewill 750W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
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August 31, 2014 8:07:44 AM

crazylegs830 said:
Hmmm. Thanks guys. I don't intend on overclocking I just was picking up the 4670k because it was the same price as the 4670 on Newegg (a sale). How do these changes sound?

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
PSU: Rosewill 750W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply

They're good, but if the PSU isn't a Capstone, it might not be good...
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August 31, 2014 8:10:16 AM

crazylegs830 said:
Hmmm. Thanks guys. I don't intend on overclocking I just was picking up the 4670k because it was the same price as the 4670 on Newegg (a sale). How do these changes sound?

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
PSU: Rosewill 750W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply


The i5 4590 is faster and cheaper. Rosewill generally does not make good PSUs, and having a quality PSU is an important part of a pc build.

I would suggest to get this PSU:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...

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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2014 8:12:18 AM

What about the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B2? Made by Super Flower.
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August 31, 2014 8:15:45 AM

RazerZ said:
crazylegs830 said:
Hmmm. Thanks guys. I don't intend on overclocking I just was picking up the 4670k because it was the same price as the 4670 on Newegg (a sale). How do these changes sound?

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
PSU: Rosewill 750W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply


The i5 4590 is faster and cheaper. Rosewill generally does not make good PSUs, and having a quality PSU is an important part of a pc build.

I would suggest to get this PSU:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...



That Psu is a 650w, but Selenog recommended getting an 850w. Which should I get? I am also nearing my budget I'm looking for a psu cheaper. Maybe around a $100 if possible.
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August 31, 2014 8:16:45 AM

zeyuanfu said:
What about the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B2? Made by Super Flower.


That unit is decent, it's better than the CX but worse than let's say an XFX core unit. EVGA's Supernova G2 is top notch and is also made by Super Flower. However it's around $115.
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August 31, 2014 8:19:44 AM

crazylegs830 said:
RazerZ said:
crazylegs830 said:
Hmmm. Thanks guys. I don't intend on overclocking I just was picking up the 4670k because it was the same price as the 4670 on Newegg (a sale). How do these changes sound?

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
PSU: Rosewill 750W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply


The i5 4590 is faster and cheaper. Rosewill generally does not make good PSUs, and having a quality PSU is an important part of a pc build.

I would suggest to get this PSU:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...



That Psu is a 650w, but Selenog recommended getting an 850w. Which should I get?


Didn't see you planned on sli with the 770.

EVGA Super NOVA G2

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g2075...
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August 31, 2014 8:20:44 AM

zeyuanfu said:
What about the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B2? Made by Super Flower.


I'm leaning towards this PSU.
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August 31, 2014 8:22:20 AM

crazylegs830 said:
zeyuanfu said:
What about the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B2? Made by Super Flower.


I'm leaning towards this PSU.


There's a huge difference between the B2 and the G2. I would stick with the G2 since it's based on a Super Flower design and is a top tier psu.

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August 31, 2014 8:22:59 AM

RazerZ said:
zeyuanfu said:
What about the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B2? Made by Super Flower.


That unit is an average quality psu like the CX series from Corsair. EVGA's Supernova G2 is top notch and follows a Super Flower design. However it's around $115.

I wouldn't think that unit is made with low-quality caps and stuff like that?
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August 31, 2014 8:24:55 AM

zeyuanfu said:
RazerZ said:
zeyuanfu said:
What about the EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B2? Made by Super Flower.


That unit is an average quality psu like the CX series from Corsair. EVGA's Supernova G2 is top notch and follows a Super Flower design. However it's around $115.

I wouldn't think that unit is made with low-quality caps and stuff like that?


edit: see above post
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August 31, 2014 8:27:42 AM

I'll right I think I'll be purchasing this PSU:

EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Does that sound good?
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August 31, 2014 8:29:27 AM

crazylegs830 said:
I'll right I think I'll be purchasing this PSU:

EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Does that sound good?


As long as it's not the Supernova NEX series then you will be good.

Just make sure the box says Supernova 750 G2.
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a c 280 4 Gaming
August 31, 2014 9:14:47 AM

Just at first glance the motherboard you have does not support sli. Will post back soon.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2014 9:24:27 AM

The Bitfenix Merc Alpha might be good...
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August 31, 2014 9:52:00 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($80.91 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($364.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 22M35D 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1154.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-31 12:37 EDT-0400

The R9 290 performs similarly to the GTX 780 at the price of a GTX 770. The only problem is that many cards have been sent DOA so you might have to return it if it doesn't work out of the box for a replacement. The card also might run at high temps, but the R9 290 is designed at a target temp of 94C.
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August 31, 2014 10:24:31 AM

crazylegs830 said:
RazerZ said:
crazylegs830 said:
Hmmm. Thanks guys. I don't intend on overclocking I just was picking up the 4670k because it was the same price as the 4670 on Newegg (a sale). How do these changes sound?

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
PSU: Rosewill 750W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply


The i5 4590 is faster and cheaper. Rosewill generally does not make good PSUs, and having a quality PSU is an important part of a pc build.

I would suggest to get this PSU:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...



That Psu is a 650w, but Selenog recommended getting an 850w. Which should I get? I am also nearing my budget I'm looking for a psu cheaper. Maybe around a $100 if possible.


I recommended 850w IF you overclock AND think about going SLI in the future though your mobo does not support it (forgot to check that though you generally want to keep using a psu over a few builds).

If you don't overclock lets look at the TDP's of your cpu: 84w and gpu: 250w (for the r9 290 which is a little more than for the gtx 770) that gives a good 350w of power needed so let's round to 400w minimum.

Now a PSU is actually something you really don't want to cheap out on, remember all your expensive components are depending on it to give them clean power. Look at it like this, would you put a cheap fuel-filter in a ferrari? No one will notice it without looking under the hood but why risk it.
Also most good psu's have very long warranties (mine has 7y for example) so you can rely on it to survive at least 2 builds and thus it is actually not that expensive in the long run to buy a high quality top of the line psu. (Buying a top of the line cpu will only give you top performance for maybe 2y) So buy a good psu and think about the future, do you think that within 7y you will likely go SLI (or crossfire) or will start overclocking.
(not that difficult anymore and Intel even has a special overclock policy that will give you warranty while overclocking so very worthwhile in my book to do even if it is only a little. I got my i5-4670K to 4.2Ghz easy, going above it requires a little more knowledge but is still not difficult).

So TL: DR; you don't NEED a 850w psu and I didn't recommend it if not overclocking
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