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ItsZanoniBro

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Hey guys, first build here and I'm a bit stumped. After about 20-25 minutes of DOTA, my Comp. is blue-screening me for a restart. Case is cooled by the stock fan.

In going to install a liquid cooler, I noticed I cannot access the back panel of my MOBO to install the mount as the hole to see it is JUST off center enough where I can't get the left 2 "screws" into the holes. Stupid case.

ANYway, the cpu temp according to SpeedFan v. 4.50 hasn't really clocked over 55C (no overclocking and DOTA shouldn't really be sapping my processor anyways). GPU temp 40C ish - so I feel this is safe, but computer keeps telling me it's the cooling. Questions as follows:

1) Are there any coolers out there worth the price that don't require a bracket - to be installed much like a stock?

2) How can I better diagnose this? Speedfan doesn't tell me the critical temp my machine obviously hit when it keeled over.

Thanks as always! Build is:

Intel Core i7-4790K Processor
Asus Z97 Motherboard - Intel Socket LGA1150
Rosewill CAPSTONE Series ATX 12V/EPS 12V 750W 80 Plus Gold Certified Power Supply
Kingston HyperX Fury Red 4GB Desktop Memory Module (times 2 so 8GB)
Kingston V300 240GB SSD - 2.5" Form Factor, SATA III 6Gb/s, Up To 450 MB/s Read Speed, Up To 450 MB/s Write Speed
EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti Superclock w/G-SYNC Support 2GB GDDR5 128bit, Dual-Link
 
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casper1973

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Where / how is your computer telling you this is caused by overheating? In the BSOD message?

55C isn't what I would consider high for a CPU. I don't even start to get concerned until I see CPU surpassing 70C. 80C+ is worrying and 90C+ is SWITCH IT OFF NOW.

And 40C for the GPU... that's lower than average if anything.

Are these temps when idle or during gaming?
 
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if you are sure that you need new cooling, or just want new cooling systems i'd go with any noctua case fan (NF-F12's are the best) and for cpu cooling a cooler master hyper 212 evo. it fits on most boards, has great temps and supports any 120mm fan. Also because its your first build i'd stick with air cooling :)
 
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When gaming. Obviously never caught the absolute highs due to the restart,but I can't imagine them being all that much higher. Idle/current temps for cpu/gpu/case are 30/28/27C

The BSOD message tells me the system restarted because: Display driver stopped responding and was unable to be recovered. NVDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver v. 340.52 actually - their newest according to the update I've run.

The black ASUS startup screen asks me to visit BIOS on the way back in with "cpu temperature error" on the bottom.

Good update I hope?
 
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No malware. I've been more anal about that than everything else. What does memtest run? Perhaps I've done it.
 
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I saw the 212 has a bracket. To avoid the entire MOBO coming back out and back in, I'm looking for more of a stock style install. See above for my case problem.
 
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From what you have described my first steps would be to un-install the graphics driver (usual add/remove programs method).

Next boot into safe mode and run DDU to clean up any leftovers - http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Then install the latest version (download it direct from the Nvidia website).


I'd say at least 80% of BSOD issues I come across turn out to be driver/software related.

I would also check your BIOS for any temperature limits. You can sometimes set a custom temperature to cut off at to protect hardware. Maybe this was changed to something very low like 70C
 
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When percieved heat problems arise the first thing you should do remove the heatsink check and replace the TIM then reseat the heatsink. Now recheck your temps. You should be checking your Core temp Max as recommended by Intel.
Your temps may probably be ok. But getting an aftermarket cpu will be better. Stock coolers form Amd and Intel show poor performance at higher temps. That is a fact. Don't be afraid of removing your Mobo to put on a decent aftermarket cpu cooler. I am not sure of your core max temp So far no one is or they would have posted it. But you should be sure.
I will find out and post it. It should not be an I think so thing.

Found it. According to Intel it is 72.72 Degees Celcius Maximum core Temp or T=Case.
 
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Depends on the case though. I have the 212, and my case allowed me to put it in by taking off the back panel. There's still many other solutions that mount easier though.
 
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This is just the max temp at the heat spreader, and the temps from Core Temp and SpeedFan are the actual core temperatures. Intel processors don't start slowing and shutting down until almost 100 degrees celdius.

If you're gaming, I would definitely get a better cooler than stock. Before I upgraded, I had to throttle my processor down to avoid overheat. (I also used onboard graphics, so that's probably why)
 
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Casper, so far so good man. Re-installed the driver and we've been running nicely. Heat definitely not an issue at all (monitored the entire time - never > 48. Ran stress tests on the cpu and it ran all the way up to 70 and tasks still smooth. Should be ok!

Thanks all for your help!!
 
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