R9 270x less performance then lower gpu?

Royvds · Aug 31, 2014

If i play minecraft with my r9 270x gaming edition 2gb from msi
then i get like 200 to 300 fps

my friend with theseme specs but with an gtx 750ti got like 300 to 400 fps

What's up with that?

AMDFaith · Aug 31, 2014

EXACT same specs?

Minecraft is more a CPU intensive game, you would really only see those kinds of gains with a better CPU.

According to this, the 270X should be about 10% better than the 750 ti

HWcompare -- 750ti vs 270X

Some games have a tendency to run better with brand specific GPU's (eg; borderlands 2 favors Nvidia graphics)

Royvds · Aug 31, 2014

That's my problem, i have the exact same cpu as he has!

AMDFaith · Aug 31, 2014

same RAM, same motherboard, same clock speed, same voltages?

There are SO many different aspects that can factor in to making a PC perform better. Overclocking the CPU, the ram and GPU will give those kind of performance gains and possibly more.

what are the specs?
of both machines if possible

smeezekitty · Aug 31, 2014

Graphics drivers usually are not setup up to be concerned about really high framerates.
Sometimes you can upgrade and get lower framerates in non-intensive games.

The real question is why do you need more than 60 FPS? (or 120 if you have a 120hz monitor)

AMDFaith · Aug 31, 2014

Sounds like he's just concerned as to why there is such a performance difference between the two systems. Not that he NEEDS more than 60FPS, but merely for curiosity.

Royvds · Sep 1, 2014

Ill post the specs of both the pc's when i got them, i can't do this right now cuz im on school

Royvds · Sep 1, 2014

My pc build: (200 to 300 fps on mc)

8 GB ddr3 1600mhz Crucial ram

intel core i5 4460 pc1150 6mb cache 3,2 ghz retail‏

MSI R9 270x gaming edition 2gb ddr5

MSI B85M-G43

120 gb ssd

1 tb 7200 rpm hdd

cooler master B500M supply 500W

Windows 8.1 Pro

Friends pc build: (400 to 500 fps on mc)

asus gtx7 50ti 2gb ddr5‏

ddr3 8 gb crucial RAM 1333 Mhz

hdd: 1tb sata3‏

asus h81m-e‏

intel core i5 4460 pc1150 6mb cache 3,2 ghz retail‏

windows 7 home premium‏

# edited twice for translation of some dutch words that I forgot to translate #

AMDFaith · Sep 1, 2014

According to this, your build should be the superior one.

Maybe he has his settings toned down?

Royvds · Sep 2, 2014

No he has just like me pushed it up to highest settings, both have no overclocking or diffrence in game

(as far as i know, ill ask for sure)

Royvds · Sep 2, 2014

Btw why i now already have got your attention, I can't change my resolution to 1920 by 1080p, is this because of my monitor? because is use vga? and if it's because im using vga will vdi fix this?

CGurrell · Sep 2, 2014

One thing I've noticed with Minecraft is that a DDR3 card helps it run better, no idea why but it does. If he has a DDR3 750ti then that would explain it

CrispyChips · Sep 2, 2014

AMDFaith :

HWCompare is shit for starters,but where in the world do you see "about 10% better" than the 750? from the numbers im seeing,its closer to 90-100% better.

Royvds · Sep 2, 2014

He has Got like all setting on highest, all of them, and he has GDDR5 RAM

smeezekitty · Sep 2, 2014

Both of you need to try something more intensive and see how it stacks up

CGurrell · Sep 2, 2014

It could be that the 750ti is running at it's full core clock, whereas your 270x is running in a power saving mode, reducing the clock to keep power consumption down until it needs to use its full potential.

One other difference is windows 7 vs windows 8.1, 8.1 could be implementing the power saving features whilst 7 might not be

CrispyChips · Sep 2, 2014

CGurrell :

GNC cards(as far back as im aware) do have dynamic core clock speeds(defined by PowerTune) which can induce frame lag.

You can disable it with MSI Afterburner,its called PowerPlay in there, and use 100% 3D clocks 100% of the time while gaming and have a reduced clock profile set up for idle(2D) which makes gaming much smoother.

Only sacrifice is powersaving/heat reduction in idle situations.

Royvds · Sep 3, 2014

Is there a way to test if this would fix my problem? Like disabling that option and looking for any performance increase?

CGurrell · Sep 3, 2014

Royvds, there is no point in trying to fix it. You are getting over 200 fps, you monitor can probably only run at 60Hz, meaning your GPU is producing over 200 fps, yet can only display 60 thanks to limitations on your monitor. If anything, enable vSync and lock your fps to 60 to eliminate screen tearing. In other games, this issue will have no effect as your GPU will stop its power saving features when it needs to, so that it can run games at its full potential.

Royvds · Sep 3, 2014

Do i also have to lock it to 60 fps in heavier games ?

Rationale · Sep 3, 2014

CrispyChips :

HWcompare, as you said, is complete shit. It says an HD 5970 would be about 100% faster than an HD 7970. Lmao.

Royvds · Sep 3, 2014

So my friend is actualy just destroying his screen by getting 400+ fps?

Rationale · Sep 3, 2014

Royvds :

No. The extra frames over 60 just don't show up.
Screen tearing does not damage the screen - It's just a name given to a certain sort of graphical bug.

CGurrell · Sep 3, 2014

This is screen tearing. It won't damage your screen in any way, but it's not something you want for obvious reasons.

Royvds · Sep 3, 2014

CGurrell :

I get this when watching the walking dead (downloaded) a lot, i plug my acer travelmate into big samsung smart tv
I use vlc media player

Is there a way to fix this?

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