First Gaming Build $800-1000

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I was wondering if anyone could critique this build for me. I'm mainly going to be using it for gaming as well as multitaking with streaming, editing and torrenting/emulation.

This is an AMD build I came up with because I'm trying to get the best bang for my buck for under $1000.
I've heard mixed things about whether or not to go AMD or Intel/Nvidia so any Input on which I should go with and why would be great as well as your input on how this build is.

I plan to OC the computer with the assitance of a friend.

If you have a suggested intel build when you present do you mind explaining why you pick the parts you do for the CPU, I spent quite alot of time reading about the parts I picked for my AMD build because I like to know the pros and cons of the items I'm buying and what I am able to do with them.

Also if you could suggest a good PSU, for the build while having enough power to be able to OC that would be great.

Any information would be alot of help as this is my first time.

Also trying to keep the build under $1000 with a monitor and wireless card included. Also if you think my build is fine any suggestions on how I could save some cash without affecting my overall performance, such as different RAM ect.

So here's the build I made.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7c46NG
 
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SSD's are nice, but a good GPU is a lot nicer! If I were you, I'd ditch the SSD and go with a 280x. If you can, keep the 8350, or at least go with the 8320. The 6300 isn't a bad little chip (I own one), but I have noticed it falling behind a bit already. The 8320/50 should give you enough UMPH to get along for a while.

EDIT: Here's an inexpensive, but good, 280x
 

ZeusGamer

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I suggest getting this build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.67 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 Advanced ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.66 @ Newegg)
Total: $971.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-01 00:50 EDT-0400

Update:
I didn't see that you wanted a monitor on your build.
But if I were you, I'd stay with the current build that you've got right now.
 

gjohnson94

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Thanks for the input everyone, when it comes to the 280 and the 280x what are the difference? I remember reading somewhere that the only difference between the 270 and 270x was that the 270x was built as a pre OC oem part soe the 270 would be a better option because you would be able to OC it better than the 270x. Is this the same for the 280's? Also what wattage PSU should i get for this build if I plan to OC?

And a friend of mine who build his setup with AMD said he kind of regrets going with it right now because he's big into emulating/emulation games on the PC and that AMD falls off kind of hard for them and he wish he would of gotten an Intel. How true is this? I'd like to run emulations but im not super big on them just a few here and there, so would i notice that big of a difference between going AMD and Intel?

As to what games i'll be playing I'm not really sure, I used to be big on PC gaming but for the past 2 or 3 years I've had to deal with and old POS HP laptop that is currently falling apart. Mostly I play league of legends (and I know this build is more than enough for league) right now because I can still run it decently on my laptop. But once I finish the build I plan to get back into PC gaming. I usually enjoy MMO's, FPS, and RPG type games so any suggestions would be great because I've really lost track of the good games in the past few years.

What does the MX 100 have over the Samsung, I know alot of people prefer the Samsung series SSD's thats why I went with that one.

Anything I could save some money on? I know I can probably pick a different brand of RAM and save $10-20 for the same latency/ddr3, and would it be worth it later on to Crossfire another graphics card in or just completely upgrade the GPU down the line?

Lastly how is this build for overclocking I did a little reading here and there as to what parts are good and bad when it comes to that but I have no real experience with it, my friend was going to teach me how but he's been busy and hasn't seen my parts list yet.

Sorry for all the questions, trying to learn because im seriously considering going back to school for my Computer Engineering or Computer Science degree.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $996.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-01 01:34 EDT-0400

Maybe grab 650W if u feel that 550W isn't enough
 

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MX 100 is cheaper, and you probably won't notice the difference between a 5 and 7 sec boot

280X actually has more cores

You probably can't get much cheaper RAM, but aim for 2x4 kits around 76 dollars (lots of good kits on sale are around this price)
 

ZeusGamer

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First of all, the difference between the 280 and the 280x is very little. I would go with the 280x as its a couple dollars more. Plus the 280x goes head to head with a 770, for a hundred dollars less. This card is really worth looking into. I've got two 280x and I never regret getting them.

I'm not sure about emulators as I do not play any emulators. I've read from an online article somewhere that emulators are more CPU bound rather than GPU. So having fast single thread CPU would really help you out there. I've got a 4770K and it's got one of the fastest single core CPU out there.

If you have the budget, I would really go with Intel Core i5's rather than AMD FX or Intel Core i7's. Core i5's are the best for gaming right now. It's fast and reliable. Specially with the games that you are wanting to play.

If you really want to save money, I would drop the SSD and continue with the rest of the build. I believe that SSD's are just a want rather than a need. WD Black drive would be better specially for what you are planning to do with your computer. WD Black is optimized for heavy task including gaming, video editing, and just other heavy HDD related stuff, that drive will be best for you.

Overclocking on your current build right now, I say that the 8350 is one of the best overclocking CPU's out there. But let me tell you what, my Intel Core i7-4770K on stock clocks beats the AMD FX 8350 overclocked to 4.8 Ghz. That just tells you how much amazing Intel Core CPU's are. But to each their own opinion.

No biggies, that's why there's this community :)

Hope I helped

- ZeusGamer
 
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So it would be better to just spend the extra $50 to get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121867 instead of this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150706 ? Im probably gonna drop the SSD for now and just get it later on down the line.

Edit:I posted the links above backwards by the way the XFX was meant to be first xP, meant to be would it be worth it to spend the extra $50 on the XFX 280x instead of the Asus 280.

Any suggestions on a good but cheap power supply I know a user posted a 550w Earlier but the one thing I dont like about Pcpartpicker is that they include the mail in rebates in the price you pay.
Would like to avoid mail in's if possible knowing me i would for get to do them plus im trying to keep what I pay upfront under $1000 not what I spend after rebates xP
 

ZeusGamer

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That is correct, I'd prefer you get the XFX 280x because it would perform better on your games.

The EVGA G2 series power supplies are really amazing. VERY efficient man. This is the EVGA SuperNOVA 750G2. It's very reliable and it will keep the 750w constant when you need it.
 

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Ok so this is my build now, I switched out the case because the previous one didn't have any usb 3.0's while my Mobo did, and switched from the corsair Vengence to the Crucial Balistix Sport to save a few extra $, and on my PSU how is the EVGA 600B 600w 80+ Bronze any better options? I know you recommended the SuperNOVA 750g2 but how does this one compare?

I found this complete build minus the GPU for $756.55 at my local micro center. Im probably going to order the GPU online at Newegg and pick everything else up in store, because they only carry 2 280X GPU's the XFX and the MSI. The MSI they have at $310 and the XFX is $340.

Here is the XFX they have.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/431306/Radeon_R9_280X_Overclocked_3GB_DDR5_PCI-e_30x16_Video_Card

and this is the MSI
http://www.microcenter.com/product/423128/AMD_Radeon_R9_280X_Gaming_3G_3072MB_PCIe_x16_30_Video_Card

which one of those would you suggest? I think that XFX is slightly different than the one posted earlier but not entirely sure

With the XFX the total is 1137.59. With the MSI its 1105.51 with Tax included picking up in-store at the local Micro Center. (It will be slightly cheaper than this I'm micro city usually has instore discounts when buying things together). So for the price how is the build.
 

ZeusGamer

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I would go with MSI. Not because the total is lower, but their GPU's are better.
 

ZeusGamer

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It's good for temporary use man. But you should get a better one in the future. Your PSU is one of the components you really shouldn't cheap out on. Read some review before you purchase the product!
 

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This one had good reviews thats why I picked it in the first place. How does the supernova 750B compare to the G2? They have it for $5 more than the one I have picked out at the moment and am probably gonna switch over since its $5 for an extra 150 Watts
 

ZeusGamer

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I use to have the B series from EVGA, I've had nothing but coil whine and buzzing capacitors from these. When I opted out for the G2 series, all these problems went away.
 

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So I plan on buying the parts this weekend, this is the mostly final build I have right now.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pwrHpg

I couldnt find the power supply I have picked out on pcpartpicker so here is the direct link.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0433775

So how is this build, I picked out a much better power supply. Atleast according to the Power Supply Tier list posted here.

Also since I plan on Overclocking, with this build would it be better to save the extra $40 and go with the FX 8320 or stay with the 8350, since they are the same chip but the 8350 just has a higher base clock speed. From some things I've read with a decent PSU and Cooling the 8320 can pretty much match the 8350 in overclocking for a bit more power from the PSU.

Edit: This build after taxes runs me $1172.23, with the 8320 its 1128.93.

If I go with the 8320, I'll probably spend the extra cash on a better monitor because that asus is only a 1600x900 res.

Or instead of the AMD I could run a i5 4590 for the same price as the 8350, but that would put me slightly over budget after the mobo, with the amd CPU+Mobo I get a discount because I am buying both.

So if you think I should go the 4590 route which mobo should I get? I originally ran the prices with a MSI z97-G45 which ran me about $1236 total, I would prefer not to spend over $1200 but if its honestly worth the extra cash I may go with it and keep the 1600x900 Monitor.
 

ZeusGamer

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Bro, you might want to check this PSU out: [link]

This PSU has got TONS of very good reviews. I've got the 850W version myself and I've had no problems with it whatsoever. You should get that one because it's fully modular and it's got a fanless mode feature. Which is always awesome!

Also, just stick with the FX 8350, it does have a higher base clock, which means more room for overclocking.
 

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I updated my post earlier what do you think I should do between the 4590 and the 8350? It puts me about $40 over budget but would it be worth it? If the 4590 which Mobo would you recommend.
 

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I found a bundle for the i5 4690k and the MSI z297 Gaming 5, with those the build runs me 1242.59, a little over budget but I wouldnt mind spending it if its worth the price. Whats your opinion? Its $1172.23 vs $1242.59.
 

ZeusGamer

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It's definitely worth it man.

I was actually just looking at that motherboard too.