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R9 290: 1440p or Eyefinity 1080p

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September 1, 2014 2:42:53 AM

Recently my friend got 3 1080p monitors in eyefinity, anbd I brought my rig over. He seems to be able to run even BF4 on medium over 60 on them with a single 270x. I could run ultra with no aa and no post processing at 50-85 on them.

My R9 290 is too strong for 1080p, and I want something a little more interesting.

Should I get a single 1440p Korean monitor for like $300, or 3 small bezeled 1080p monitors for eyefinity for roughly $300-$400 (3 cheap ones)
I see Eyefinity cut my FPS in half, while I think 1440p only cuts into about a 25% of my framerate

1440p I want to buy (best for the $$$)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matt-X-STAR-DP2710LED-PLS-Panel...

My Main Question:
Is there a way I could get a 27" 1440p monitor in the center, and then run 2 1080p monitors on the side of it and still have the choice to run Eyefinity on all 3 in 1080p. I'm imagining having the 1440p in the center, and 2 smaller cheap 21.5" or so in Portrait mode mounted on the sides. Or possibly all 3 in landscape mode, with 2 1080p's on the sides still.

Am I able to run across all 3 (1x 1440p, 2x 1080p) or must I choose between 1080p eyefinity and single 1440p? Anyone have experience with this? Ahat do you recommend and what monitors would you recommend for this?

Thanks for any ideas/help!

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a b C Monitor
September 1, 2014 2:45:58 AM

i'd go 3 monitors, will look better than single 1440p even of the higher res
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September 1, 2014 3:12:02 AM

legend001523 said:
i'd go 3 monitors, will look better than single 1440p even of the higher res


You sure? I played on my friend's setup and honestly the effect got old in a lot of games, and I found myself just focusing on the middle monitor... Especially in FPS games.

And is there any way I can Hybrid Eyefinity, say have the option to use a 1440p in the center, but be able to use it in 1080p in conjunction with other monitors for Eyefinity? I really would think 1440p would look much better, an at that res, turn down MSAA a tad, and it would run almost exactly the same as 1080p but look much better :/ 
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a b C Monitor
September 1, 2014 3:14:22 AM

hm... I was just thinking about bf3/bf4 and racing games but if you wanted a 1440p monitor that'd look good too and not sure :/ 
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a b C Monitor
September 1, 2014 3:19:00 AM

FPS Games and most other games = Single monitor (except maybe games like ARMA, which is kind of a simulator instead of a FPS)
Simulators = Multiple screens.

Go with a 1440p monitor if you mainly play BF3/4 etc.
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a b C Monitor
September 1, 2014 3:21:49 AM

3 for sure. Any fps are really immersive with 3. BF4 is awesome.
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September 1, 2014 3:32:45 AM

leeb2013 said:
3 for sure. Any fps are really immersive with 3. BF4 is awesome.


I tried BF4 with my 4790k/r9 290 Tri-X, and it ran mostly 60+on almost all ultra, no MSAA, low post processing, The experience still wasn't that great... I still found myself focusing on the single monitor, and the 2 side monitors were almost like blind spots to me, even in 120 FOV. Didn't seem that immersive. Looked great with Hitman Absolution, and Grid 2, so 3rd person and racing/simulation would be great but... eh... not sold on it for BF4/Titanfall, even Bioshock infinite felt odd...

So people, I kinda want both options for different games. Is there a way I can have a single 1440p in the center, and 2 side 1080p's and just run all 3 in 1080p. possibly like this?

[ ] [==] [] with the 1440p in center and smaller 1080p screens in portrait mode on the sides? or is that just not possible with AMD drivers?

[ = ] [==] [ = ] or would this work also? Having 2 1080p's on either side of 1440p in landscape

Really want a hybrid style setup, best of both world's... but would it work? would eyefinity agree with this? would 1440p scale down to 1920x1080p and work well with other 1080p's?
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a b C Monitor
September 1, 2014 3:45:03 AM

Hm I was thinking all same sioze but different res?
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September 1, 2014 3:50:57 AM

legend001523 said:
Hm I was thinking all same sioze but different res?


Hmm... that would be ideal... here's my dilemma:

Friend got 3 21.5" 1080p AOC monitors, cheap, thin bezeled, and acceptable image quality. all run nicely, and got all 3 for $350...

If I got 27" 1440p, and 2x 27" 1080p on the sides, that would be my best bet right?
now... 1440p on its own is $299, where am I going to find some cheap 27" 1080p's? it seems' 27" 1080p's are still very overpriced, seem's they are all $200+ each...
299
200
+200
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$699...
I could get an Asus 4k display for that much...

Got any idea's on how I could get some cheaper side monitors? could I possibly even run like 19" 1080p's on the side of the 27" in portrait mode an almost match the center monitor for cheaper? If they are good quality ips 19" panels would that work well? or would you feel constrained?

What would you do in my situation :/ 
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a b C Monitor
September 1, 2014 3:52:41 AM

you can get 24''?
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September 1, 2014 4:01:58 AM

legend001523 said:
you can get 24''?


hmm.... got any reccomendatoins for cheap 1080p's that are 23"-24" with very thin bezels? under $150 each?

also what about this?
2 of these for $89.99 each in portrait mode next to the single 27inch
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8ms kinda scares me, even the 1440p is 6ms... will it be a bad monitor for gaming?

or should I just give up on the portrait and run landscape 24-27-24 inch and just run eyefinity withouth the top 3" of the 1440p?
Money is what's holding me back :/ 
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a b C Monitor
September 1, 2014 4:04:29 AM

Yeah, i'd go with option one, don't know if it works in portrait mode doe
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September 1, 2014 9:10:08 PM

legend001523 said:
Yeah, i'd go with option one, don't know if it works in portrait mode doe


Hmm...so getting 24-27-24 in landscape would be most compatible? I don't think many games would use the portrait monitors correctly... since I wouldn't technically be in 5760x1080p anymore if I turn the 2 sides portrait mode. I'd end up with some odd resolution I think.

You have any idea of which 24" monitors I should get with thin bezels? I can't seem to find very many :/ 
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a b C Monitor
September 2, 2014 1:29:53 AM

I was thinking 24'' for all of the 3 and no sorry, pcpartpicker might have some nice options
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September 2, 2014 6:38:47 AM

legend001523 said:
I was thinking 24'' for all of the 3 and no sorry, pcpartpicker might have some nice options


That would be great, but I can't find any 24" 1440p monitors... most are 27" standard.

Maybe 24-27-24 will be my best option then? I can't afford 2x 27 inch 1080p and a 1x 27" 1440p :/ 
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a b C Monitor
September 2, 2014 6:48:40 AM

Yh but don't know if it'll work with different size
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a b C Monitor
September 2, 2014 6:52:38 AM

You may find that you'll need a second R9 290 for 5760x1080 if you want high/max settings and 60 FPS in most games. That's almost twice as many pixels per frame as 1440p, so you can expect roughly half the performance at the same settings. 1440p + 2x 1080p would be even more demanding.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/05/am...

I don't know what your framerate/visual detail expectations are, but you may be looking at more like low/medium details in many games with a single 290 in Eyefinity.
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September 2, 2014 7:03:17 AM

oxiide said:
You may find that you'll need a second R9 290 for 5760x1080 if you want high/max settings and 60 FPS in most games. That's almost twice as many pixels per frame as 1440p, so you can expect roughly half the performance at the same settings. 1440p + 2x 1080p would be even more demanding.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/05/am...

I don't know what your framerate/visual detail expectations are, but you may be looking at more like medium details in many games with a single 290 in Eyefinity.


This is why I want this combo. I have the option to run a single 1440p and most games will run all ultra (even BF4) and I want to have the option to run eyefinity in a mixed resolution. meaning 1440p monitor runs in 1080p alongside the other 2 1080p's, just an area of the 1440p would be darkened out.

I want to know how well this would work, as its a new part of AMD's 14.6 driver (I'm on 14.7 beta)
I'm not worried on how it will run, since even BF4 ran all ultra with no MSAA 60+ in 1080p eyefinity, I just wanna know if the monitors will work correctly in 1080p eyefinity.
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a b C Monitor
September 2, 2014 7:04:40 AM

Just get a 1440p 27'' now and save up for the two other 1080p
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a b C Monitor
September 2, 2014 7:17:05 AM

jkteddy77 said:
oxiide said:
You may find that you'll need a second R9 290 for 5760x1080 if you want high/max settings and 60 FPS in most games. That's almost twice as many pixels per frame as 1440p, so you can expect roughly half the performance at the same settings. 1440p + 2x 1080p would be even more demanding.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/05/am...

I don't know what your framerate/visual detail expectations are, but you may be looking at more like medium details in many games with a single 290 in Eyefinity.


This is why I want this combo. I have the option to run a single 1440p and most games will run all ultra (even BF4) and I want to have the option to run eyefinity in a mixed resolution. meaning 1440p monitor runs in 1080p alongside the other 2 1080p's, just an area of the 1440p would be darkened out.

I want to know how well this would work, as its a new part of AMD's 14.6 driver (I'm on 14.7 beta)
I'm not worried on how it will run, since even BF4 ran all ultra with no MSAA 60+ in 1080p eyefinity, I just wanna know if the monitors will work correctly in 1080p eyefinity.


Bear in mind that since 1440p and 1080p are the same 16:9 aspect ratio, a 1080p image on a 1440p monitor would be surrounded by black on all sides, not just letterboxed top and bottom. So you'd have the center image, a few inches of black on either side, then the two side monitors. The other option would be to upscale the 1080p image to fill the 1440p monitor, but that too would break the continuity.

You'd need a 2560x1080 image on the center monitor to match up to the 1080p monitors, but I'm not sure if that's even possible.
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September 2, 2014 1:12:09 PM

oxiide said:
jkteddy77 said:
oxiide said:
You may find that you'll need a second R9 290 for 5760x1080 if you want high/max settings and 60 FPS in most games. That's almost twice as many pixels per frame as 1440p, so you can expect roughly half the performance at the same settings. 1440p + 2x 1080p would be even more demanding.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/05/am...

I don't know what your framerate/visual detail expectations are, but you may be looking at more like medium details in many games with a single 290 in Eyefinity.


This is why I want this combo. I have the option to run a single 1440p and most games will run all ultra (even BF4) and I want to have the option to run eyefinity in a mixed resolution. meaning 1440p monitor runs in 1080p alongside the other 2 1080p's, just an area of the 1440p would be darkened out.

I want to know how well this would work, as its a new part of AMD's 14.6 driver (I'm on 14.7 beta)
I'm not worried on how it will run, since even BF4 ran all ultra with no MSAA 60+ in 1080p eyefinity, I just wanna know if the monitors will work correctly in 1080p eyefinity.


Bear in mind that since 1440p and 1080p are the same 16:9 aspect ratio, a 1080p image on a 1440p monitor would be surrounded by black on all sides, not just letterboxed top and bottom. So you'd have the center image, a few inches of black on either side, then the two side monitors. The other option would be to upscale the 1080p image to fill the 1440p monitor, but that too would break the continuity.

You'd need a 2560x1080 image on the center monitor to match up to the 1080p monitors, but I'm not sure if that's even possible.


Well, not entirely. AMD 14.6+ driver (I'm on 14.7 beta) allows you to use entirely different resolutions in eyefinity. http://cdn.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/amd_e...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YTX565CZpTo/U4SFW7Zd7tI/AAAAA...

Here its 1080p-1600p-1080p. I want to do this with 1080p-1440p-1080p, but am not sure if I can...
I am not sold on eyefinty, but cannot power 3 1440p monitors so... how can I keep the best of both of these worlds?

It doesn't black box the center 1440p monitor, it would actually fit the image to match the 2 side 1080p monitors.
It shows 1600p and 1080p would work... but how would 1440p/1080p mix? this is what I need to figure out.
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October 11, 2014 7:40:18 PM

Super late to the party but if I'm not mistaken you need to have all the same rez to run eyefinity, it might be nvidia that only does that though im not 100%.

For three 1080p though i recommend the acer h236, its a 23in 1080p ips with super thin bezzles.
I recommend the ips because with tn panels the colors may distort if the are not placed perpendicular to eye view, these monitors are about 150 each. If you'd perfer there is a 27in version of it as well
cheers,
-tb
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October 11, 2014 7:54:57 PM

toberkulosis said:
Super late to the party but if I'm not mistaken you need to have all the same rez to run eyefinity, it might be nvidia that only does that though im not 100%.

For three 1080p though i recommend the acer h236, its a 23in 1080p ips with super thin bezzles.
I recommend the ips because with tn panels the colors may distort if the are not placed perpendicular to eye view, these monitors are about 150 each. If you'd perfer there is a 27in version of it as well
cheers,
-tb


Hmm, will have to consider that model. TN panels were my fear, and it is hard to find cheap ips panels that are 23/24/27".

Also, AMD DOES support mixed resolutions, it just scales them all to one resolution, so the 1440p would be scaled to 1080p with mixed resolution eyefinity set up
see:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YTX565CZpTo/U4SFW7Zd7tI/AAAAA...

and here is a video of it now that it is in an official driver (14.9)
http://youtu.be/T3agMYfcBw8?t=1m26s
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