Upgrade to Devils canyon or wait for Haswell-E

DaPancakeanator · Sep 1, 2014

Need the cores and the ghz, I can either buy an i7 4790k or wait for the new line of proccesors and z99 mobo's. Currently I have a z87 MSI
And a terrible intel i3 3220.

Also are ghz or cores more important for running a server?

Thanks

kunthakenthe · Sep 1, 2014

no ghz arent really important a x99 mobo/ i7 5820k,5930k,5960x are all server cpu that are best for it but a i7 4790k would do well also. the new cpus are all ready out but the ddr4 ram is 100$ for 16gb,200-300$ more for 32gb and up.

Alpha3031 · Sep 1, 2014

Or you could get a Xenon. Great server chips on Either X79, Z/H97/Q85, or wait for the E5 Xenon v3s on X99. Up to 20 cores (single chip that is, if you run Dual CPU, it's going to be 40 cores/80 Threads. Overkill I assure you, and way too expensive) , and are the best for servers and supercomputers. What exactly will you do on this server of yours? Consider looking in to Professional GPUs, 64 GBs of RAM and the 850 PRO SSD

Depending on application, but there is usually a minimum number of cores certain software will run properly on, and any more cores won't be as good for performance than GHz or IPC increase. Note that most consumer grade applications aren't optimized for more than 6 cores, but some pro applications can take 20 easily

Note: kunthakenthe said that core ixes are server CPUs, that is not correct, as the Core ixes are consumer CPUs and Enthusiast CPUs, and largely less stable than Core Xenons.

DaPancakeanator · Sep 2, 2014

kunthakenthe :

Alpha3031 :

I do a lot of 3d art and model ling and the render times are just ridiculous, also I was planning on running a minecraft server to make some cash but it looks like 4gb ram won't do for 70+ players (;.

I've seen xeons and such before but aren't they more like server grade rather than consumer?

logainofhades · Sep 2, 2014

Your board should a Z77 with an ivy i3, and it should be compatible with a Xeon 1230v2. It is an excellent CPU for the money. Verify what you have, before you make a purchase. If your board is Z87, then you have a pentium G3220, not an i3.

legend001523 · Sep 2, 2014

Wait for haswell e, they will be better but if you can afford it get a x99

DaPancakeanator · Sep 2, 2014

Wait sorry I'm so confused, Haswell e aren't out yet but x99 mobo's and ddr4 are?

Also which xeon cpu do your recommend my budget is about 350$ not including mobo

logainofhades · Sep 2, 2014

Verify the exact model motherboard you have first.

legend001523 · Sep 2, 2014

yeah i think so... haswell e are broadwell, and if you can sped £350 might aswell get a i7

logainofhades · Sep 2, 2014

legend001523 :

Haswell E is not broadwell. Broadwell will not be out till early next year.

DaPancakeanator · Sep 2, 2014

Oh alright gotcha, I was thinking about the i7 but I see no reason in paying extra for some junk integrated graphics,I'll probably get the xeon.

THANKS

Alpha3031 · Sep 2, 2014

if you're happy with overclocking, a unlocked i5 can be good as well.

kunthakenthe · Sep 2, 2014

Alpha3031 :

Or you could get a Xenon. Great server chips on Either X79, Z/H97/Q85, or wait for the E5 Xenon v3s on X99. Up to 20 cores (single chip that is, if you run Dual CPU, it's going to be 40 cores/80 Threads. Overkill I assure you, and way too expensive) , and are the best for servers and supercomputers. What exactly will you do on this server of yours? Consider looking in to Professional GPUs, 64 GBs of RAM and the 850 PRO SSD

Depending on application, but there is usually a minimum number of cores certain software will run properly on, and any more cores won't be as good for performance than GHz or IPC increase. Note that most consumer grade applications aren't optimized for more than 6 cores, but some pro applications can take 20 easily

Note: kunthakenthe said that core ixes are server CPUs, that is not correct, as the Core ixes are consumer CPUs and Enthusiast CPUs, and largely less stable than Core Xenons.

actually xeons are server cpus and can be used for his rendering and editing.

Alpha3031 · Sep 2, 2014

kunthakenthe :

Alpha3031 :

actually xeons are server cpus and can be used for his rendering and editing.

That. Is what I said. What you said was "i7 5820k,5930k,5960x are all server cpu" Core i7s are not Core Xeons. One is a Consumer/SMB/Enthusiast Product one is Professional/Server. The i7s you named would belong in the Enthusiast segment.

kunthakenthe · Sep 2, 2014

the xeons are server. but the i7's extreme ones are still for rendering,editing and server like things.

Alpha3031 · Sep 2, 2014

kunthakenthe :

No, they belong in the Enthusiast segment. If they were Server CPUs they would not have unlocked multipliers.

kunthakenthe · Sep 2, 2014

Alpha3031 :

so all that cache and HT and cores are just for enthusiast there made more for the proffesional segment and are much cheaper solutions to those beastly 20 core xeons.

Alpha3031 · Sep 2, 2014

So are 6 core HT Xenons with cache. Your point?

logainofhades · Sep 3, 2014

Haswell-E extreme model is an 8 core with HT. It is still an enthusiast part, but might make sense for some people that are working with professional software that can make use of the threads. Pointless arguing is pointless.

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