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September 1, 2014 11:26:05 AM

Does anyone know if it is possible to remove the fan from the stock cooler on an AMD Phenom II 940? I just replaced mine because it was getting too hot, and after looking at it there was a lot of dist built up under the fan. I was able to remove some with a can of air, but there is still a lot left. I'm hesitant to force it too much since it seems pretty well stuck on there. Does anyone know if it is possible to safely remove?

It would also make more sense (I think) for the fan direction to be reversed. Right now it blows towards the CPU, meaning that the air goes across the blades first, gets warmed up, and then across the plate that contacts the CPU. If it went the other way it would pull cooler air across the CPU, then the blades, and then out. I'm not sure how much difference it would make, but it makes sense to me.

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September 1, 2014 11:52:25 AM

The stock fan is held on by 4 screwes, once you remove those the bracket will sill be on the heatsink, but the fan will be out of the way.
As for the directions, the way its positioned is better. This way it blows cool air across the fins, the copper heatplate benefits little from having air blown across it, the heatpipes and fins however do.
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September 1, 2014 12:40:29 PM

Seth Goodnight said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to remove the fan from the stock cooler on an AMD Phenom II 940? I just replaced mine because it was getting too hot, and after looking at it there was a lot of dist built up under the fan. I was able to remove some with a can of air, but there is still a lot left. I'm hesitant to force it too much since it seems pretty well stuck on there. Does anyone know if it is possible to safely remove?

It would also make more sense (I think) for the fan direction to be reversed. Right now it blows towards the CPU, meaning that the air goes across the blades first, gets warmed up, and then across the plate that contacts the CPU. If it went the other way it would pull cooler air across the CPU, then the blades, and then out. I'm not sure how much difference it would make, but it makes sense to me.


Don't do anything as dumb as switching the orientation of the fan on the heatsink. You would have a burning hot heatsink in no time. You can't suck heat out of a lump of metal.
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September 1, 2014 12:58:04 PM

bmacsys said:
Seth Goodnight said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to remove the fan from the stock cooler on an AMD Phenom II 940? I just replaced mine because it was getting too hot, and after looking at it there was a lot of dist built up under the fan. I was able to remove some with a can of air, but there is still a lot left. I'm hesitant to force it too much since it seems pretty well stuck on there. Does anyone know if it is possible to safely remove?

It would also make more sense (I think) for the fan direction to be reversed. Right now it blows towards the CPU, meaning that the air goes across the blades first, gets warmed up, and then across the plate that contacts the CPU. If it went the other way it would pull cooler air across the CPU, then the blades, and then out. I'm not sure how much difference it would make, but it makes sense to me.


Don't do anything as dumb as switching the orientation of the fan on the heatsink. You would have a burning hot heatsink in no time. You can't suck heat out of a lump of metal.


A bit harsh sounding, don't you think?

Anyways, I doubt he meant to "suck heat out of the metal." what he is saying is that he wants to have cool air drawn through the fins, and then out the fan.
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September 1, 2014 1:01:26 PM

I would keep it in the stock position. You may actually see an increase in temps if you reverse it (but I doubt you would see a big difference in temps).

If the dust is on the fan blades, simply wipe it off.

Consider getting an aftermarket cooler and some dust filters.
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September 1, 2014 1:15:02 PM

TheMagicalWallaby said:
bmacsys said:
Seth Goodnight said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to remove the fan from the stock cooler on an AMD Phenom II 940? I just replaced mine because it was getting too hot, and after looking at it there was a lot of dist built up under the fan. I was able to remove some with a can of air, but there is still a lot left. I'm hesitant to force it too much since it seems pretty well stuck on there. Does anyone know if it is possible to safely remove?

It would also make more sense (I think) for the fan direction to be reversed. Right now it blows towards the CPU, meaning that the air goes across the blades first, gets warmed up, and then across the plate that contacts the CPU. If it went the other way it would pull cooler air across the CPU, then the blades, and then out. I'm not sure how much difference it would make, but it makes sense to me.


Don't do anything as dumb as switching the orientation of the fan on the heatsink. You would have a burning hot heatsink in no time. You can't suck heat out of a lump of metal.


A bit harsh sounding, don't you think?

Anyways, I doubt he meant to "suck heat out of the metal." what he is saying is that he wants to have cool air drawn through the fins, and then out the fan.


In all my years of working with computers. Since 1984 actually as I have worked for a telco after I left the USMC. I have never heard anyone thinking of turning a cpu heatsink fan orientation 180 degrees. Common sense tells you it will fail miserably.
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September 1, 2014 1:32:46 PM

It would work the same as on a radiator. Instead of pushing air through/across it, you pull the air through it.
On heatsinks is makes no difference.
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October 12, 2014 8:54:55 AM

bmacsys said:

Don't do anything as dumb as switching the orientation of the fan on the heatsink. You would have a burning hot heatsink in no time. You can't suck heat out of a lump of metal.


Any more than you can blow the heat out of a lump of metal?

bmacsys said:

In all my years of working with computers. Since 1984 actually as I have worked for a telco after I left the USMC. I have never heard anyone thinking of turning a cpu heatsink fan orientation 180 degrees. Common sense tells you it will fail miserably.


Common sense tells me it will be the same volume of air moving across the fins either way. Common sense tells me that pulling cooler air across the heat sink plate would cool it more than pushing hot air across it. No matter though, as other posters have taken the time to explain why it wouldn't be as effective.
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October 12, 2014 9:02:58 AM

You guys are clueless. You can PULL air thru FINNED radiators. You can't pull air thru a SOLID object like a stock heatsink that he is using! Really. It doesn't take an engineer to see this!
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October 12, 2014 9:05:26 AM

Seth Goodnight said:
bmacsys said:

Don't do anything as dumb as switching the orientation of the fan on the heatsink. You would have a burning hot heatsink in no time. You can't suck heat out of a lump of metal.


Any more than you can blow the heat out of a lump of metal?

bmacsys said:

In all my years of working with computers. Since 1984 actually as I have worked for a telco after I left the USMC. I have never heard anyone thinking of turning a cpu heatsink fan orientation 180 degrees. Common sense tells you it will fail miserably.


Common sense tells me it will be the same volume of air moving across the fins either way. Common sense tells me that pulling cooler air across the heat sink plate would cool it more than pushing hot air across it. No matter though, as other posters have taken the time to explain why it wouldn't be as effective.


Try it the lol!. See your cpu overheat in a few seconds on load. You can pull air thru a radiator. That is how they are designed. Not a solid hunk of aluminum/copper like a heatsink. Remind me never to let you work on my pc lol!
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October 12, 2014 9:07:16 AM

Gam3r01 said:
It would work the same as on a radiator. Instead of pushing air through/across it, you pull the air through it.
On heatsinks is makes no difference.


You can't pull air thru a solid object like a heatsink. You can pull air thru a radiator. Turn the fan around on your solid aluminum heatsink like the one he is using.
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October 12, 2014 12:47:27 PM

bmacsys said:
You guys are clueless. You can PULL air thru FINNED radiators. You can't pull air thru a SOLID object like a stock heatsink that he is using! Really. It doesn't take an engineer to see this!


https://www.google.com/search?q=amd+phenom+stock+cooler...

Try Google before insulting people, it will help you save face. The cooler is not a solid chunk of aluminum. The fan sits on a FINNED radiator, not a SOLID chink of aluminum. Heck, you could even try reading the OP, since I talk about the fan blowing across the blades.
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