You appear to be behind a NAT'd device

Deeeny

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Hello I'm in my second year at college and it seems they updated the internet protocol and a new software called, Safe connect. Last year when I plugged in my router it work without no problems. Since now we have to install Safe connect I'm getting You appear to be behind a NAT'd device, You have been quarantined until this problem is resolved. I was wondering if there's a work around to make the software think I have a router or something.

TLDR: New software called Safe Connect blocking my router any way for a work around?
 
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Any 'workaround' would have to go through your school IT dept. What do they recommend? You are certainly not the only one with this issue.


There must be some mistake.. and as USAFRet says.. you prob need to go to your School to get it fixed..
I cant believe that any commercial product worth anything cannot handle NAT.... everyone who uses a router will be using it.. so about 95%+ of people connected to the internet. The product has probably not been configured correctly by your school.

Cheers..
P.S. while you chatting to your school.. ask them to teach you about double negatives...you seem to have missed that class ;)
 
It sounds like your school is using that software to enforce a no NAT device policy. Is there some particular reason you need to have a router? You can't just plug in a switch (or use the router as a switch) to share the single wall jack with multiple computers in your room?


Double-negatives (or triple- or multiple-negatives) are used in certain parts of the U.S. (mainly the South) and in some other countries as a form of emphasis, not a double negation. "Without no problems" is just a way to say "Absolutely no problems".

Negation itself in proper English is sometimes logically incorrect. If I ask you, "Haven't you finished your homework yet?" In English, a "No" is an implied self-referential no meaning "No, (I have not)." It makes sense if you reply "No, I have not." But doesn't make sense when you answer with just "No" - the self-reference is ambiguous. Is it referring to "No, (I have not)" or "No, (contrary to what you are asking, I've already done it)"?

Asian languages avoid this problem by just answering the question that was asked. "Yes" = "Yes, (I have not finished my homework yet)". "No" = "No, (contrary to your question I have already finished my homework.)" No ambiguous implied self-reference.

After a while, you learn all these little nuances of language as different people use it. Not assume it's a flaw in their intelligence or education.
 

Deeeny

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Being on a router just make my speed a little faster. I have a few friends said they didn't have a problem with their routers. Also the school sells router, so I even tried my roomate's router with the same issues. I emailed the help desk so just waiting if it's a NAT enforce policy (They probably want us to buy their routers) or another issue.
 


Don't be silly - you cant do that..
Unless you have a very strange ISP.. they normally restrict you to one IP per account.. so if you have more than one device in the house you MUST have a router (Using NAT) to use all the local device IPs and convert to your single WAN IP so they can all talk to the internet.

Also .. just because people abuse English - it does not make it correct English.
And thanks.. I am aware of MANY nuances, and bad English ... and I know the difference!!!

Enjoy, a fun take on it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

Cheers




 

This is a school. I would assume they just assigned a single subnet to the dorm, and anything you plug in gets assigned an IP in that subnet via DHCP if this Safe Connect program says they're legit. A switch would work in that situation (talk to the school's IT department).

My guess is they're blocking NAT to prevent non-students from connecting to their network from behind a firewalled router. As long as all computers have to connect directly to the dorm's subnet, they can control who has connectivity.
 


OK - apologies - I think you are right. I read the OP post as he was trying to get into his school network from home..
Not that he was actually within the LAN environment..
That's why I was going down the line of it being crazy...and talking about WANS.. etc

I'll get my coat!! :pt1cable: