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Advice on two different overclocks. Asus Maximus Hero Vi and Vii

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September 1, 2014 10:01:50 PM

Hello all! So i recently built a new rig, and a buddy of mine liked my build so much, i helped him build a similar one. The outcome kinda surprised me.
My rig consists of an Asus maximus hero vi, intel i7 4770k, 16gb g.skill trident X 2400mhz ram, an evga gtx 760 SC, a Samsung evo 840 SSD . And a corsair aio water cooling system.
So,i finished building my buddies computer over the weekend. His rig is identical to mine except he got the new Maximus vii hero mobo, the I5 4670k and a bigass Noctua cpu cooler.
I started messing around with the Asus software and bios, cuz i have much to learn about this current generation of hardware. (My last build was in 09).
So, heres the weird outcome which raises many questions .
My buddies pc overclocked much higher than my rig and with ease! Just running the auto tuning in the maximus vii's bios got his rig running stable at 4.488ghz and tested it for a whole night.
My rig on the other hand, i got to run stable at 4.2 ghz. When i try to di the auto tuning to 4.4ghz ,i get blue screens and crashes while windows tries to load. I like the bios on the Vii so much more than my Vi. Could the difference really be coming from his newer mobo,even though i have the better processor?
Please any help would be appreciated. I have a buncha questions about these boards and overclocking them.

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September 1, 2014 10:08:12 PM

Im pretty sure i have the newest bios and drivers on both boards. I was actually wondering if it was possible to get the newer Asus suite 3 on my hero vi that comes with the 7. Or even the bios for the vii?
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September 1, 2014 10:11:36 PM

Many factors play into this. Some chips overclock better than others and can achieve higher clocks with less voltage compared to the exact same chip. It's totally luck on what you get. I personally wouldn't use the Asus software because they jack the Voltage up much higher than necessary. Your chip is likely crashing because you don't have enough voltage (refer to bios).
You didn't mention anything about yourself having an aftermarket cooler, and once you start getting into the 4.2-4.3ghz ranges of overclocking temps become an issue, especially if you've touched the voltages. If you don't already have an aftermarket cooler i would recommend:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

In the end, there may be slight differences between the overclocking potential of each motherboard etc. However, without experimenting with voltages and bios tuning, i don't think you should worry about clock speeds. Like i said, the Asus utility overthrows the required voltage by alot, So heat is a problem & without tweaking those numbers you're not going to get your chip's full potential.

Edit: Just re-read and noticed you have water-cooling, disregard that portion :p 
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a c 424 K Overclocking
September 1, 2014 10:27:05 PM

You're right, the Z97 Hero is a much improved version of the Z87, I have both and have run a couple of 4770K in both, with both they OC better on the Z97, my stock 4770K does 4.7 vs 4.5 on the Z87, and the ES 4770K did 4.6 on the 87 and easily does 4.8 (and better) on the Z97, the Z97 also runs cooler, has a better BIOS and handles higher end DRAM better. (have mine in sig)
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September 1, 2014 10:34:44 PM

Thanks for the quick response. Yeah i have a aio water cooler. So far my temps have been very good. I do know that every chip is slightly different. I guess im goin to have to learn more about all the new bios settings im unfamiliar with. Theres so many new ones compared to my last gaming rig. Ill have to learn how to change settings manually. Ive read a few things lately. Some ppl say not to run the xmp profiles for the ram, and that on this generation of mobo, its better to underclock the ram with tigher timings and free up more room for the cpu to be overclocked.
Im not looking to go overboard on the overclocking, but i am very curious and do wanna catch up on all this new nifty tech thats out. Seems that overclocking has changed a bit since i last was into it.
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a c 424 K Overclocking
September 1, 2014 10:40:11 PM

Running 16GB at 2400 has little to no effect on the OC, if you were up to 32GB, dropping to 16GB can help the OC a little ( .1 or so), and dropping the freq doesn't really help the OC either, in fact it can be detrimental to the overall system if you use the rig heavily since you lose the additional bandwidth of the faster DRAM. The learning curve on OCing and finetuning isn't that bad, big thing is take it slow and keep notes of your settings so you can fall back if need to.
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September 2, 2014 7:28:15 PM

Thanks for the info everyone. Well i guess im stuck with my Maximus vi. I dont think Asus provides any kinda "step-up" program but ill look into it. Tradesman1, or anyone else for that matter, do you have any recommendations for settings or Overclocking on my rig? Ive been tryin to find a guide for my setup and you seem to be familiar with it.
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a c 985 Ĉ ASUS
a c 424 K Overclocking
September 2, 2014 8:00:07 PM

I'd say just take it slow and keep track of what you do as you go, no two CPUs are going to be the same

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/intel_haswell...

and settings to get them to do a given OC are going to vary widely, I'd got a 4770K and a ES 4770K, and are very different, my sone built a Hero VI with a 4770K, it's rather different than my two (wish I could flop it with my stock 4770K, his OCs better)...so just take your time :) 
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