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Fitzitz

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Hi everyone. I am building a PC with the intent of using it to play games and make and edit youtube videos. I was wondering if there is anyway to improve this system without affecting the price too much.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/fitzitz/saved/9dWzK8

(I already have an optical drive and hard drive)

Also:

1.I already have a hard drive (2tb seagate barracuda), but should I get an extra drive to hold important files on in case the 2tb one fails?

2. I have heard horror stories about the h100i cpu cooler exploding/leaking/etc and destroying entire builds. Is it still worth getting or should I get an air cooler?

3. Would overclocking the i7 4790k to ~4.8ghz make a huge difference when editing videos?

4. Yes, I know that PSU is ridiculously large, but it has a 10 year warranty, and all the reviews say it is a very efficient PSU, so I am hoping I can just use that one if I upgrade (or its replacement if it breaks at all during the next 10 years :p)

5. Is there a case that is as large/larger than the one in the build that has better airflow?
 
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Anyways they will skip the 8xx series to avoid confusion with mobile GPU which our friend did here , they will jump directly to the 9xx series according to rumors.

850W as Stated before is enough for most * Dual Graphics Card configurations , the thing about efficiency is that these things are tested under certain loads ( 20-50-100% ) so at 10% ( assuming that he'll get that 1300W PSU ) they wouldn't be that efficient , maybe maxing out at 60% for bronze certified ( the exact numbers can't be found over the internet ) which means even to provide the sufficient wattage there'll still be a significant amount of power lost.
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I can't see your pcpartpicker list.. it is set on private, can you make it public please or just copy paste it here ?

1. You can get external HDD if you want and hold there your most important stuff...
2. If you have room in your case go with Noctua nh-d15 cooler it is more quiet than any liquid cooler and have the same or even better temperatures.
3. For video rendering would be somewhat faster yea but not too much, for gaming yes big difference :D but i7 is very nice processor so you don't even have to OC it for the next 2 years it is good as it is :D
 
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Have a big imagination , Imagine a large PSU and tell him how to solve the issue.
 
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I don't see the build like what everybody said. So try this!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII FORMULA ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($305.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($439.80 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Z 12GB Video Card ($2999.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($209.77 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1250W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VW224U 22.0" Monitor ($2129.99 @ Mac Mall)
Total: $7226.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-02 04:10 EDT-0400
 
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Man that's very cheap , I don't think its any good !! Maybe he should go for something that's around the 1440p Intense gaming level mark.

 
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If you upgrade in the next 100 years you won't need a 1300 W PSU , 16 GB isn't needed but hey if you want it then get it.
Your build ( modified ) :
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/N8PtLk
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/N8PtLk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£239.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£78.72 @ Amazon UK)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste (£11.27 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£105.59 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£110.34 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£51.35 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (£281.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£97.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£62.98 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£49.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1088.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-02 09:22 BST+0100
 
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Don't listen to this guy about PSU.

It's much better if you leave PSU to work on 50% load of itself then to use >80%, do a research about it and you will see what I'm trying to point out :D, btw you can always feel free to upgrade your PC in the future with 1300W PSU

You can get 850W or higher to save some money because maybe 1300W is a bit too much but yet again wouldn't go lower
 
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The 80+ Certification is done on 20% Usage , 80% and 100% ( if I remember correctly ) . It might be efficient on 80% usage however if its on idle using 240 Watts doing nothing then the electricity bill will be higher up in the air as it still draws much electricity from the wall that end up being not used . 1300W won't even be needed for a dual R9-295X2 which is technically the strongest single GPU on the market so I am not speaking off my arse.
 
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Yeah ok 1300W is too much but 650W is too little if he's going to upgrade in the future and 850W is not much more expensive
 
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We can't just predict based on nothing , he never said anything about upgrading and even then 650W will be sufficient ( unless he decides to SLI ).
 
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We can't just predict based on nothing , he never said anything about upgrading and even then 650W will be sufficient ( unless he decides to SLI ).
 
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£18 difference between 650W - 850W..
Non the less I'd rather let my PSU working on 50-60% while I do gaming which I do a lot (6-8hrs a day) than on >75%, it will die sooner
Plus I can always upgrade something or add (more fans/usbs or such)

Bronze certified can go up to 82% use
 
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I fully understood what you were saying, you shouldn't send a video, PSU certification table would be enough although I already know it... What I'm trying to point out is that for such a nice config he should take more than he needs PSU (wattage) for future, because that processor will be able to run everything for the next 5-6 years without bottlenecking future components (mainly GPU)

Also he can always add more HDD or SSD, usbs etc (he already mentioned that he needs more storage if I'm correct. Why risk it with only 650W :(
 
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Fitzitz

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Just to let you know, the reason I didn't go with a cheaper 650w PSU is mainly because later on I want to get SLI cards of 880 ti (if that is what they are called). Including the overclocking of the cpu and the gpus, in that scenario, it would be using well over 850 watts. Also, most 850 watt PSUs that are decent seem to be the same price as the 1300 watt EVGA PSU, even though they have the same efficiency.

For gaming, 8gb isn't needed, and I would prefer AMD, but for video editing, most software favours 16gb ram and Nvidia cards.

Edit: Also, I have a distinct dislike for windows 8, especially since a relatively large amount of the games I play have massive compatability issues with windows 8. I'm still holding out hopes that windows 9 will have as much compatability with all games that windows 7 pro did.
 
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850W is sufficient even for Crossfiring two R9 290s and overclock them.

Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor 11W - 88W
Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler 10W - 15W
Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard 17W - 70W
Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory 18W - 18W
Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 1W - 5W
Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card 62W - 250W
Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card 62W - 250W
Total: 181W - 696W
 
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