h80i or h100i

M_Gooner

Reputable
Aug 21, 2014
90
0
4,630
Solution
The i7-4790k is one of the hottest running cpus in the Intel line. Any OC at all is going to run very high wattage, to the point where ppl are using full custom loops at 4.6+. You'll get @4.2 from the hyper212, 4.4 from the h80i, 4.5 from the h100i. Personally I'd skip the hyper212 on any i7, it is after all, a budget cooler, albeit a very good one.

For air cooling I'd go with Noctua nh-d14, Phanteks PH-TC14PE (pick a color), for liquid I'd go for NZXT Kraken x41 (looks like h80i, performs like h100i) or Thermaltake Extreme 3.
For system fans I'd drop those crappy SP's and go with the Phanteks 140mm, a way superior fan for quality, output and silence, at @£9-£20.
Stick with the Asus gpu, its quieter, the fan whine is much less of an...

jasonite

Distinguished
Apr 2, 2012
345
0
18,960
The fan cooler you've picked is just fine for OC'ing your CPU. There are some better heatsink/fan options, but if this is your first build I generally don't recommend a water cooling solution. If you decide you really want a water cooling system, the best value for your buck is the Cooler Master Seidon 120V, and it's even on special now at newegg.

J
 

jasonite

Distinguished
Apr 2, 2012
345
0
18,960
Looking at your build there are a couple of suggestions I might make. First, getting 1866 ram will not actually do you much good for gaming. The 1600 is much cheaper, and you wouldn't notice an increase in gaming performance unless you went up to 2400Mhz I'd say.

Your power supply is going to have to be excellent, and I don't have a problem with wattage but I found a good price on one that is better for not much diff in price. Here is a build with my suggestions:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GkzmNG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GkzmNG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£236.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.86 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£86.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£113.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£83.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£49.98 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) (£329.71 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) (£329.71 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (£87.13 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£139.82 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.22 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Corsair SP140 49.5 CFM 140mm Fans (£19.37 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case Fan: Corsair SP140 49.5 CFM 140mm Fans (£19.37 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1530.85

I've kept your air cooling solution but again, if you just don't feel comfortable with it then grab the 120V for not much more. BTW I love your case, it's the same one I have! I ordered one extra 140mm chassis fan for exhaust, but two is great if you don't mind just a bit more noise.

J
 

M_Gooner

Reputable
Aug 21, 2014
90
0
4,630


Wow thanks bro. I need 1866mhz becuase i'll be editing videos and multimedia streaming etc the whole lot really. It was only £4 more from 1600mhz to 1866mhz so i just went with the 1866. Also the power supply amazon says its 1100w and I think its good enough its Corsair 80+gold and fully modular
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CP-9020062-UK-Series-RM1000-Modular/dp/B00FLVIQQ8

Do you think stock cooling is as good as water cooling? I don't mind getting either just heard water cooling is much better and because i'm getting the r9 290's they run hot already i'm looking to crossfire them in the future so is stock cooling good enough for the heat?? And how does the case look with red LED fans bro?
 

jasonite

Distinguished
Apr 2, 2012
345
0
18,960
Okay, so definitely do NOT stock cool if you are OC'ing your CPU. Stock cooling just mean using the heatsink that comes with the processor. The two Cooler Master options I've given you are not stock cooling, these are cooling options you buy separately. If you're referring to heatsink/fan cooling vs water cooling, water cooling does give you the lowest temps, but unless you're an extreme overclocker it won't make a lot of difference. It is usually a good idea to buy GPUs from other companies too. For example Gigabyte's Radeon R9 290 WindForce OC 4GB is already overclocked and has better cooling than the stock 290 you would get, that would be my preference.

Take a look at this chart: http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2770&page=5

The very best water cooling options like the Nepton series and the Tundra are noticeably cooler than everything else. The 100i and 80i which you'd referred to are right there and their performance is virtually identical. The 120V I've talked about is only 2 degrees warmer under very high wattage and it's price is about $50 less. The temp differential between the 120V and the 212 EVO is a total of 3 degrees if you're running at 150 watts, whereas it's only 2 degrees running at 85W.

The question is how hard of an OC'er are you? Yes water cooling will keep your CPU temp ultimately lower, but unless you are pushing the extreme limits of what your system can do and are willing to spend $100 it's not worth it IMO. I bought a heatsink/fan for my CPU and was able to OC my CPU by 1Ghz+ without running into dangerous temps at all.

As I've said, if you're just more comfortable going with water cooling then by all means do it, it's a great system and does ultimately keep your rig a few degrees cooler. I just generally encourage first time builders to use fan cooling because a lot can go wrong setting up water cooling systems unless you have experienced help.

J
 

M_Gooner

Reputable
Aug 21, 2014
90
0
4,630


Sorry i didn't mean stock cooling i meant fan cooling bro. Thanks i've learnt a lot from you lol. I don't think i'm going to be overclocking that much or even at all. If you think the build is solid enough with the fan cooler and it will run okay and at a good heat then i'll go with that due to it is cheaper. With the case does it hold 120mm or 140mm fans? I heard it can hold both but if it can which one should i go for i want red LED fans i can go with the sp120 or sp140 so just let me know thanks bro helped me out a lot ordering parts tomorrow
 

M_Gooner

Reputable
Aug 21, 2014
90
0
4,630


Sorry i didn't mean stock cooling i meant fan cooling bro. Thanks i've learnt a lot from you lol. I don't think i'm going to be overclocking that much or even at all. If you think the build is solid enough with the fan cooler and it will run okay and at a good heat then i'll go with that due to it is cheaper. With the case does it hold 120mm or 140mm fans? I heard it can hold both but if it can which one should i go for i want red LED fans i can go with the sp120 or sp140 so just let me know thanks bro helped me out a lot ordering parts tomorrow
 

Karadjgne

Titan
Ambassador
The i7-4790k is one of the hottest running cpus in the Intel line. Any OC at all is going to run very high wattage, to the point where ppl are using full custom loops at 4.6+. You'll get @4.2 from the hyper212, 4.4 from the h80i, 4.5 from the h100i. Personally I'd skip the hyper212 on any i7, it is after all, a budget cooler, albeit a very good one.

For air cooling I'd go with Noctua nh-d14, Phanteks PH-TC14PE (pick a color), for liquid I'd go for NZXT Kraken x41 (looks like h80i, performs like h100i) or Thermaltake Extreme 3.
For system fans I'd drop those crappy SP's and go with the Phanteks 140mm, a way superior fan for quality, output and silence, at @£9-£20.
Stick with the Asus gpu, its quieter, the fan whine is much less of an annoying tone, run cooler than the Gigabyte version and is imho, better quality for AMD gpu than anybody except Sapphire.
 
Solution

jasonite

Distinguished
Apr 2, 2012
345
0
18,960
Pick whichever fan you want, really. I always prefer 140's over 120's because I think larger fans are more efficient, picking isn't a huge deal. The enthoo pro is a pretty quiet case, I've never had problems with sound.

As far as GPU brands, ASUS has a very good reputation, EVGA is great, MSI is great (what I own), and I believe Sapphire is too though I've haven't used their cards yet. Come to think Inno3d has made some good cards too, go ahead and take a look at some reviews and see what you think.


J
 

M_Gooner

Reputable
Aug 21, 2014
90
0
4,630


I wasn't suppose to click best answer lol but never mind it was a GREAT answer xD.. I don't think i'm going to be overclocking for now maybe in the future and i'll buy a liquid cooler then. I've already got the Sapphire r9 290 bf4 edition is that okay?? I just want to know what would keep that cool. My case already has fans and i'm buying 140mm fans x4 so would that be okay??
 

M_Gooner

Reputable
Aug 21, 2014
90
0
4,630


Okay thanks bro. So the SP140 x4 LED red is okay for keeping my gpu cool? Will the case glow red too?
 

Karadjgne

Titan
Ambassador
Some leds are brighter than others, and this is only really due to taste. Some fans, the leds are more of an accent, those fans are usually a solid, non-transparent fan. The brighter area glow kind are usually the clear or colored translucent fans.
 

M_Gooner

Reputable
Aug 21, 2014
90
0
4,630


My fans are only for my gaming build/area is all black and red. But glow red
 

M_Gooner

Reputable
Aug 21, 2014
90
0
4,630


Oh cool thanks I might buy the NZXT hue