Temporary CPU: i3 4150 vs FX 6300?

nVidea · Sep 3, 2014

Ok, I watched a Youtube video of Radeon R7 260X: Battlefield 4 - AMD FX 6300 vs. Intel i7 3770K Frame-Rate Tests. And I'm amazed by the results.

(See first my current and future build)

I was planning to switch from AMD to Intel (by buying new intel-based motherboard and new processor) and I was deciding between an i3 4150 or just FX 6300. My main purpose is gaming. I also use AutoCAD, no video editing. I am aware that intel are great for rendering, but my current AMD Phenom II X4 B50 3.2ghz can handle my AutoCAD 2D fine (not perfectly, but fine and good). I am on very tight budget. Since I have Asus M5A 78L-M LX, I just thought what if I just buy a brand new proc, gpu, and possibly psu? I was planning to buy R9 270x Vapor X, but hell, R7 260X can reach 60 FPS in the youtube.

My question is, will the build below can reach 50-60 FPS?

CPU: FX 6300
RAM Kingston 4gb RAM
MOBO: asus m5a75l-m lx
GPU: (What R7 260x's manufacturer do you recommend? R7 260x isn't available in our country, I don't know if it's out yet. How about just Gigabyte R9-270X Windforce 2G)
Monitor: 18.5" AOC 1366 x 768
PSU: XFX XXX 850W

If your answer is yes, then this will save me a great deal of money compared to my future build:

Intel i3 4150
MSI H97 Gaming 3
Sapphire R9 270x VaporX
XFX XXX 850W
Any 4GB RAM

lightcloud · Sep 3, 2014

If you are in a budget and want a temporary CPU. Then the AMD FX-6300 is the way to go and should perform much better than the i3. You will be overclcok it to get the extra boost and gaming performance.

And it is a good idea to not waste too much money on a part that will be temporary. So in conclusion the AMD FX-6300 will be the best performance and budget.

nVidea · Sep 3, 2014

Joe, how about if I pair the FX 6300 with GTX 750 ti? How much FPS will it produce? Also, will that card work fine on an PCIE gen 2?

lightcloud · Sep 3, 2014

nVidea :

The combination will perform pretty well considered it is a lower class graphics card.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2133097/6300-asus-geforce-gtx-750-2gb-run-battlefield.html

The PCI Express Ports question:
The Nvidia GTX 750Ti is a 3.0 and yes it will fit in the 2.0 port. There will be no performance drop (if there was it will be ver very very minimal) or anything unless you plan to SLI.

nVidea · Sep 3, 2014

Ok ok, thanks, but which manufacturer should I buy? (See here)
Basing from this link, Zotac Thunderbolt OC than Palit StormX OC. You think so too?

bignastyid · Sep 3, 2014

If you are upgrading later I'd get the i3 as the cpu upgrade options are better without having to replace the motherboard.

lightcloud · Sep 3, 2014

nVidea :

Go with two fans for cooling. So Zotac wins.

nVidea · Sep 3, 2014

jas340 :

I don't play the games on which they based the results from.

bignastyid :

Yeah. The motherboard is compatible with 4th and 5th gen intel. But I don't understand why the Intel 5th gen's socket is LG2011?

nVidea · Sep 3, 2014

lightcloud :

I heard AMD FX 6300 heats much easily. Any recommendations on a very effective CPU cooler? How's the stock cooler?

bignastyid · Sep 3, 2014

The new socket 2011-3 boards are for Haswell-e cpus(beefier 4th gen). Broadwell the true 5th gen cpus will be supported on the z97 and h97 boards.

RobCrezz · Sep 3, 2014

I would go for the i3 over the FX6300. Performance will be similar between the two, but the i3 has the better upgrade path and better single thread performance.

lightcloud · Sep 3, 2014

nVidea :

lightcloud :

I head AMD FX 6300 heats much easily. Any recommendations on a very effective CPU cooler? How's the stock cooler?

A CM Hyper 212 Evo will do.

oxiide · Sep 3, 2014

nVidea :

You need to understand that performance in Battlefield 4's single player campaign (as in the video) is almost solely limited by the video card. The FX-6300 and Core i7 are capable of providing two very different framerates, but their workloads are light and the 260X is the limitation on performance. So you see both processors stuck at the same framerate because they're paired to the same GPU.

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html
^^And that behavior actually extends further down the line than the FX-6300.

I know you're limited by budget to the i3/FX-6300 segment, but just don't expect that you're going to get the same performance in BF4 multiplayer from a $125 processor that you'll get from a $300 one because that's a whole different situation than single player.

nVidea · Sep 3, 2014

Oxiide, i know they are paired with the same gpu.. im asking if will i get higher or lesser fps if i am to use gtx 750 ti and a fx 6300?? Using my 2 yr old motherboard

Also, if im to play multiplayer, i will just lower the graphics settings to mid.

Also if im to switch to intel, i would need to buy new motherboard also.. should i also buy new ram also? Or should i keep the old one.

nVidea · Sep 3, 2014

Joe, can i reuse the cm evo to intel i3 and msi h97 if am to switch to it??

Oxiide, about how many fps will the fx 6300 and gtx 750 ti produce in bf4 multiplayer? AND bf 3 multiplayer??

mdocod · Sep 3, 2014

For BF3/BF4, a 3 module Vishera Part clocked at ~4ghz is comparable to a top shelf i3 (like an i3-4340), and will maintain ~45FPS minimums in almost all compute bound conditions when paired with an Nvidia GPU running their proprietary drivers, or when paired with an AMD GPU running BF4 with the Mantle API. If you pair with an AMD GPU and run DX11, you can expect FPS minimums to dip a bit worse due to higher compute overhead (~35FPS). (this will apply regardless of whether you choose the i3 or the FX chip).

Overclocked to ~4.5ghz or better the FX-6300 will perform in-between a top shelf i3 and entry level i5 in BF3/BF4.

The GTX750Ti can produce any FPS that you CPU can maintain as long as long as the render workload is adjusted correctly. The question should not be "can the GPU do the FPS?"; rather; "Can the GPU do my desired FPS at my visual quality goals?"

lightcloud · Sep 3, 2014

nVidea :

This is your choice as many say that you should.

logainofhades · Sep 3, 2014

I would go with the i3, and then replace it with a 1231v3 later. For motherboard, I would recommend the Asrock H97 pro4 or the Fatality Killer, if you want M.2 slot and Killer Lan. ( I like that board because it has the M.2 slot for SSD) I would not go with Gigabyte for GPU. For whatever reason Gigabyte just doesn't make quality graphics cards like they do motherboards.

LookItsRain · Sep 3, 2014

If your planning on upgrading, amd is a very stupid choice, AM3+ has no upgrade path. Get the i3 and a Z OR H97 board depending on what you want.

mdocod · Sep 4, 2014

The M5A78L-M LX that you already have is going to be a bit of a problem for staying on the AM3+ platform. It has a 3+1 phase VRM configuration for the CPU. This basically means you are stuck at <100W power dissipation on any chip you choose. If you had a better AM3+ board to do some performance tuning on (more of an existing investment in AM3+) I think I'd advise the FX-6300 and some overclocking, but with such a weak board, I'm not sure it's worth it. I would advise just holding out till you can afford to buy the E3+H97 or similar setup. Also consider a C226 chipset workstation board with ECC memory for your CAD work.

lightcloud · Sep 4, 2014

mdocod :

The M5A78L-M LX that you already have is going to be a bit of a problem for staying on the AM3+ platform. It has a 3+1 phase VRM configuration for the CPU. This basically means you are stuck at <100W power dissipation on any chip you choose. If you had a better AM3+ board to do some performance tuning on (more of an existing investment in AM3+) I think I'd advise the FX-6300 and some overclocking, but with such a weak board, I'm not sure it's worth it. I would advise just holding out till you can afford to buy the E3+H97 or similar setup. Also consider a C226 chipset workstation board with ECC memory for your CAD work.

Yeah you agree with me to buy the FX-6300.

Rationale · Sep 4, 2014

I'd go for the i3-4150. Similar performance right now, actually the FX-6300 and i3-4150 trade blows from game to game. But the i3-4150 has the much better upgrade path.

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