630W enough for R9 280X+ additional questions.

LukaBoki · Sep 3, 2014

OK,first,I've got to thank Joeteoh99 and MeteorsRaining for helping me through personal messages.
I want to apologize in advance for the long thread.
Here's my current setup:
AMD Phenom II X6 1055t
ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0
Hyper 212 EVO
GTX 650
4GB of RAM
Thermaltake Smart SE 630W
and some unknows chasis and LG optical drive and Win7 64-bit.
Onto the question.
I originally wanted to buy an R9 270X and OC the Phenom.But,I quickly realized that it's too much money for me and I should either get a new GPU or do nothing.
I decided to go for the 260X,but Joe and Meteors assisted and said that it is not a good choice,as I won't get much of a performance increase over the 650 and it would be better to OC the Phenom and buy a 270X.
Meteors said that it would be better to either get an FX-8320 and a 280X and 8GB of RAM OR get an entirely new system.
I decided to go for the FX option.I plan to get a PC like this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W7HvD3
With this RAM:
http://www.monitor.rs/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=13930&category_id=80&manufacturer_id=114&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=82 (sorry for the foreign language,the currency is RSD)
I have the PSU and the mobo.
Now,I have some Thermal Paste spilled inside the socket and on the bottom of the CPU pins.
I cleaned 98% of it,but 2% is still there.Should I worry about this?
Also,I was wondering whether the Smart SE 630W is going to be enough(it has 2x6+2-pin connectors,49A on +12 rail,80+ Bronze efficiency..).
If it does,then the money is going to be invested in a new mobo,because I don't want this messed up M5A99X(if it actually is) with brand new components.MSI 970A G43 was the one I was looking at,since that one was pretty much the best from these available in my country.
If you have any suggestions,please,feel free to tell me.
I am,again,sorry for such a LONG thread,but I want to get this thing sorted out.
Thanks and sorry again.

Y0GI · Sep 3, 2014

I don't know much about AMD mobos but from what I've seen, the MSI 970 mobos are crap.

Maybe someone else can comment.

What other 970/990 mobos do you have available?

Yogi

LukaBoki · Sep 3, 2014

None other,the MSI 970 is the best possible one.
I can get the mobo from another country,but should I worry about this paste that's left into the socket and on the bottom of the CPU pins?

Y0GI · Sep 3, 2014

LukaBoki :

I would not pay for that.

Yogi

TopLuca · Sep 3, 2014

Well about the mobo its a 50-50 Chance , it might work and it might not work so when Your CPU arrives try it .

In all practicality the 630W will work with the 280X , it might not be the best PSU on the market but it'll do the trick and if the 970 MSI mobo is the best you can get ( assuming that the old one broke ) then get it as its better than not being able to use the CPU. While the 8320 might benefit a lot from overclocking but its still very solid even without it and the MSI mobo will get it running with a very small amount of overclocking ( don't push it too hard as it might break ).

Other than this the 280X and the RAM are both good choices.

legend001523 · Sep 3, 2014

wattage is fine

KreitzAIC12 · Sep 3, 2014

If I were you I would NOT get the 970A-G43. It only has 4+1 power delivery which is on the low side for an 8320 CPU.
I have a similar set up, which is 8350 + MSI 970A-G46. You want 8+2 power delivery and better VRM's than the MSI board.
I would recommend you stick with your current PSU, get a regular R9 280 3Gb non "x" verison. And use that extra money you save on the GPU to get a better mother board. So like this....

8320- CPU
Gigabyte 990FXA UD3- Motherboard
R9-280 - Graphics
More ram

With those parts you should be right in budget. I'll say it again, don't get the MSI, or any 970 chipset for an 8 core. And considering all the 990 boards, the UD3 is the best money can buy. Hope this helps!

kingcarlos89 · Sep 3, 2014

I use goldflower 600W and runs my sapphire 280x tri-x perfectly, but I use intel chipset

MeteorsRaining · Sep 4, 2014

Hey again, your MoBo isn't messed up, and you definately shouldn't downgrade it by buying a new MoBo, that too from MSI, their 9xx series MoBos have really brought down their repo. VRMs are not the best, and definately not good compared to your current MoBo. You really got the paste in a nasty place to reach! Found this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/236599-28-thermal-paste-pins-0_o
And as mentioned before, the system other that that (including PSU which I believe is decent quality) is good

LukaBoki · Sep 4, 2014

Sorry for the delay guys,I was at school.

Anyway:
1. I should keep the M5A99X EVO? I can get an ASUS M5A97 R2.0/LE if I need to,but I don't plan to OC the FX-8320.
2. The Thermaltake Smart SE will be enough? It has 49A on single +12 rail,so I think that that's enough for the R9 280X.
3. The build itself is good? Anything I can change?

lightcloud · Sep 4, 2014

If there is no need for overclocking stay with the current motherboard.

Yes the Thermlatke will do fine as long as you don't overclock the CPU.

As the OP himself just invited me, I would like to know the full specs if anyone could help.

LukaBoki · Sep 4, 2014

lightcloud :

The OP tells you that the build is on the top,both my current and the one I intend to get.

lightcloud · Sep 4, 2014

Alright let me ask you a few questions.

Will you plan to upgrade this build in the future? If so what will you plan to upgrade? Please specify brand and model of what you are upgrading if possible.

I am asking this to get a guide at what parts is suitable to upgrade. So basically planning ahead.

LukaBoki · Sep 4, 2014

lightcloud :

No way,not upgrading anything
Maybe to an Intel Core i7 or something,but that's gonna take a long time,probably like 3-4 years.And a mobo,ofc.

lightcloud · Sep 4, 2014

To be honest since you wouldn't upgrade in the future, I would just build a whole new system like what Meteor said. However budget can be a problem and you wouldn't want to go through everything again after doing so much research and preparation.

So if budget is the case, then I would just get a new a 990FX motherboard (any will do if you don't overclock), a new CPU and a R9 280X. This will be fine. And if anytime you do upgrade (I am really sure most PC gamers do), you may consider a Crossfire.

So if you did not absorb what I said. It is basically getting a new motherboard and a CPU and the R9 280X.

LukaBoki · Sep 4, 2014

That's probably what I'm gonna do.
The parts I'm getting are:
ASUS R9 280X
FX-8320
Cooler Master Seidon 120V
Seagate 1TB HDD
Thermaltake Versa II
and that RAM mentioned in the original question.
I also have some questions:
1. Can I use my old HDD? And will I need to reinstall Windows or something?
2. Can an ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 do the trick? Or an AsRock 970 Pro3 2.0?
Actually,check the AM3+ motherboards available:
http://www.monitor.rs/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=84&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=82

MeteorsRaining · Sep 4, 2014

A 630W will suffice for R9 280X. You might want to consider what Joe said, but I'd just like to divert your attention to the fact that this site has a version of what it means if paste is spilled, in small ammount, on CPU pins:

Thermal compound is a very nasty substance, it is sticky and kind of hard to clean off your fingers. It does not conduct electricity, so don't panic if you spill small amounts of it on the CPU's pins. Even silver-based thermal compound has low electrical conductivity, and will not cause short circuits when spilled in small amounts.

http://www.heatsink-guide.com/compound.htm

FX 8 and R9 280X is constant I hope.

LukaBoki · Sep 4, 2014

I am still freaking scared.I don't want my M5A99X EVO to die after I get the FX-8320 and that's something I couldn't afford.
I am not getting anything till next summer(I will get some of the parts,but not gonna use them).

lightcloud · Sep 4, 2014

Please invest in a FX-8350 and there will be no retreat. My friend has the FX-8320 and really wants the the FX-8350.

Check this out.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1806811/amd-6300-8320-8350.html

Don't get water cooling if you are not overclocking. It is a waste of money and that can be put in into a better graphics card.

Don't get the 970, but the M5A97 is a great combo with it.

Get this motherboard.
http://www.monitor.rs/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=13516&category_id=84&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=82

LukaBoki · Sep 4, 2014

The Seidon is really cheap and it seemed like a good fit,since the Versa II can't support coolers higher than 155mm.
I think it's either FX-8320 and 990FX,FX-8350 and M5A97 or M5A99X EVO that I have and FX-8350.

lightcloud · Sep 4, 2014

I wouldn't go with the FX-8329 as it is a regret if you do get it. So since you will also not overclock, we can eliminate that. And definitely go with the FX-8350 and M5A97.

MeteorsRaining · Sep 4, 2014

M5A97 is a great MoBo, and will be good enough if you don't OC. The major changes in 990 over 970 is more power phases which you won't require as you won't OC. Read the last post:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1698813/difference-990fx-970.html

LukaBoki · Sep 4, 2014

FX-8350 and M5A97 LE it is.
This is my final build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LyhDQ7
Two more questions:
1. Should I go with the LE R2.0 or just R2.0?
2. Razer Deathstalker Expert or Logitech K740 for a keyboard?

lightcloud · Sep 4, 2014

LukaBoki :

You will need a BIOS update with that build. I would go with the R2.0, it is good enough.

The Razer Deathstakker is better snd quieter I believe.

Hope this helps. I will have to go now pit is last midnight. :O

LukaBoki · Sep 4, 2014

Do I get the newest version of BIOS when I get the mobo or do I have to download it of off their website?

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