The Ultimate PC 2014

I would first like to address that I am not here to post anything silly or being funny, this is just a thread to involve the members on the forum to share their ideas on the ultimate build (it may not be the most expensive) that maybe anyone who won a jackpot might want to consider to have.

Without further ado, here is the build (notice it is a permalink not a BBCode as when people visit the thread, there is no need to scroll down until they see the first reply).

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nxrHpg

Note: Moderators out there if this thread is not allowed to be discussed please removed this immediately
*I could not contact a mod at this point of time as I do not know who is available yet and I would really like to post the build already.

Let's fire up!!


EDIT: If you have a suggested build please paste the permalink and if any other members approve it. I will place the link and acknowledge it in the description box.
 
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Joeteoh99,

It's useful to sometimes imagine ultimates because it forces consideration of which hardware produces results, regardless of cost. That said, "ultimate" is a term relative to the task- my ultimate is a workstation for 3D CAD, simulation, animation, and rendering while others will lean in the gaming direction.

Here's a thought for a super workstation- focused on image creation: Catia, Solidworks, Maya, 3ds Max, Adobe CS, but suitable for scientific: MATLAB, NAMD, and so on. Actually, just about anything! By the way, Catia software starts at about $18,000 , goes up to over $30,000 and has a $6,000 subscription fee.

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Thanks for the helpful suggestion. I am trying to keep all parts on PCPartPicker and will do my best to looks for it.

Edit: have to go with what is the closest on PCPartPicker.
 

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MAGNUM is such an ugly case ugh... No way I'd buy that...

I'd go for

a) Graphite Series™ 760T Arctic White Full-Tower Windowed Case
b) Carbide Series® Air 540 Arctic White High Airflow ATX Cube Case
c) NZXT Phantom Full-Sized Tower
d) Cosmos 1000

any of these, any day :)
 


I made an edit in the description which you may like to read. :)
 

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It's a complete modular case system and you can change it plus paint it any color you desire. Just look at some of the mods people have completed with that case as well as others.

The fact of the matter is when you start playing with equipment like described in the pc parts picker list you do not use standard run of the mill cases. Not saying any of those cases are bad, but in no way would they be used in a $20k+ system.

Even Lian-Li, and SilverStone make better cases for such builds.
 

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Well if you want to go with extreme cases and spend that much money... then this case doesn't have any competitor what so ever

http://mbxforma.com/
http://kotaku.com/5944092/this-is-what-a-1200-pc-gaming-case-looks-like
 

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These are very nice cases you selected.

1. http://mbxforma.com/ <-- This is a re-engineered 900D, I will say they did a great job. All in All you can do the same if you took either a 900D machined out a new face-plate and added a new facade to show off top fans. You could also just get a CaseLabs Magnum MSMH10 base for $339.65 and fabricate a new shell to your liking.

2. http://kotaku.com/5944092/this-is-what-a-1200-pc-gaming-case-looks-like <-- Looks exactly the same as the above no real difference it is another 900D base, as a matter of fact I believe it is the same maker.

Again they are nice cases, but remember it is showing a $1200 PC not a $20000+.

The magnum case I picked is just the bare bones, after completion it would be easily $800. My case cost $719 form CaseLabs, and for me after owning a Cosmos S, Thermaltake Xaser VI, Corsair 750D, and a Silverstonen TJ07 (a 900D based case), I will only use CaseLabs until someone makes a more durable case. AND you can mod the hell out of them.

 

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Nono you got it wrong, both link I have send you represent the same case called Murderbox
It is made in canada by canadian firm, it's a new thing and they make their own coolers. $1200 is the price of that actual case not the whole rig with the case xd

Only that case costs $1200 :p

I agree that magnum is a good case to mod but it's really ugly for me and really really reallyy tall

900D is not even CLOSE to murderbox... you can't even compare them in any point.. just look differences between materials..
 

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Ahh, I see now, but I just said it is a 900D based case. As the design uses fan & RAD bottom base (CaseLabs does the same)

They also are using EK Liquid cooling and painted Sythe Slip Stream fans so not sure if it is their own cooling.

After looking over the case from MBX in all it's glory and it is nice, but it is just a TJ07 very refined.

My big question is why is it worth $1200? Maybe there is something hidden int he case, but the lines are all Silverstone TJ07 even the fan cutout at the top of the case is the same. It kinda reminds me of Apple in a way. Lets use Intel products, Asus GPU's, Samsung RAM, and Western Digital drives place it in a $300 aluminum shell and charge $3000 (Mac G5 Pro)

Again it is a nice case don't get me wrong, but I can get a Silverstone TJ07 and have a fabricator build be a few additions for around $500-700 and I am with close to the same thing as the MBX saving $200-400. I can do the same with CaseLabs and end up with a MTX10D http://www.caselabs-store.com/magnum-tx10-d/ drop a car radiator, a house fan, cryogenic cooler, and a hamster wheel (to make the lights work) and get that close to $2000.

The biggest reason why I pick CaseLabs is due to the interior size, they are wider and a bit taller then the others. They give more room for multiple RAD, fan, and wire placement. This is why they are used by so many moders. This is also why you can by just the skeleton of the case. This gives you the ability to see a fabricator and make just about what ever you want.

People are going to like some cases and dislike others whether it is aesthetics or functionality. I go for functionality 1st and aesthetics 2nd.
 
Joeteoh99,

It's useful to sometimes imagine ultimates because it forces consideration of which hardware produces results, regardless of cost. That said, "ultimate" is a term relative to the task- my ultimate is a workstation for 3D CAD, simulation, animation, and rendering while others will lean in the gaming direction.

Here's a thought for a super workstation- focused on image creation: Catia, Solidworks, Maya, 3ds Max, Adobe CS, but suitable for scientific: MATLAB, NAMD, and so on. Actually, just about anything! By the way, Catia software starts at about $18,000 , goes up to over $30,000 and has a $6,000 subscription fee.

BambiBoom Pixapocalypse Compumodarendergraprarific imasWorkn TurboBlast Extreme SignatureForce 9000 $$+ ™®©$?™©

CPU: 4X Intel Xeon Processor E7-8893 v2 6-core @ 3.4 /3.7GHz (37.5M Cache, 3.40 GHz) >$27,364 ($6841 each)

CPU Cooling Custom about $1,000

Motherboard: Supemicro MBD-X10QBi > $2,204

RAM: 768GB (24 X 32GB) IBM 46W0676 32GB DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module - 32 GB (1 x 32 GB) - DDR3 SDRAM - 1600 MHz DDR3-1600/PC3-12800 - 1.35 V - ECC - LRDIMM > $32,400 ($1,349.06 each)

OS/App Disks: 3X OCZ RevoDrive 350 Series RVD350-FHPX28-960G PCI-E 960GB PCI-Express 2.0 x8 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) RAID 10 > $3,840 ($1,280 ea)

Storage Disks: 6X Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST4000NM0023 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SAS 6Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive $1,974 ($329 ea)

GPU /Coprocessing: NVIDIA Visual Computing Appliance (VCA), 8X Quadro K6000, Xeon E5 2.8GHz, $47,600

http://www.nvidia.com/object/visual-computing-appliance.html

Coprocessor: NVIDIA 900-22081-2250-000 Tesla K40 (GK110B) 12GB 384-bit GDDR5 GPU Computing Accelerators - Active > $4,149

http://www.nvidia.com/object/visual-computing-appliance.html

RAID Controller: LSI Nytro MegaRAID LSI00351 (8110-4i) PCI-Express 3.0 x8 Low Profile Ready SATA / SAS Controller Card - Single > $1,499

PSU: 2X CORSAIR AX1500i CP-9020057-NA 1500W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Titanium certified Full Modular Power Supply $900 ($450 ea)

CASE: CaseLabs Magnum TH10A modified> about $700 ($570 base)

FANS: 6X AR Dynamics dB Master 140mm > $210
4X AR Dynamics dB Master 120mm > $185
4X AR Dynamics dB Master RAMFan > $165

Monitors: 3X Dell UltraSharp UP3214Q Black 31.5" 8ms HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor IPS 4K 50 ~ 300 cd/m2 2,000,000:1 > $7,300 ($2,400 ea)

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Total = $131,490.

Computers- they're not just for playing games anymore!

Cheers,

BambiBoom
 
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XEON processors are server processors and built mainly for servers. If you want to do video rendering, gaming, and stuff like that xeon can't be compared with 5960x! I wouldn't build extreme PC so I can use it as a server for sure :D
 


Joeteo99,

It's good exercise to look at the best performance in any device- it puts performance into a cost /benefit perspective. If I look at the kind of work I do- architecture, industrial design, consider the applications: 2D and 3D CAD, rendering, graphic design, and the relative small amount of files I really generate- everything I've done on the computer since 1993 is about 600GB- then the best system for me- the "ultimate" in terms of cost /benefit is really much more modest:

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CPU OPT’L > (2) Intel Xeon Processor E5-2643 v2 (6-core, 25M Cache, 3.5 / 3.8 GHz) >$3100 ($1550 each)

http://ark.intel.com/products/75792/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2637-v2-15M-Cache-3_50-GHz

Motherboard > ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS Dual LGA 2011 Intel C602 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 SSI EEB > $498

____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131817


CPU Cooler > (2) CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 (CW-9060007-WW) High Performance Water / Liquid CPU Cooler. 120mm > $130 ($65 ea)

____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181030

RAM > 1 >. 64GB (4 X 16GB, 1866 ECC Reg ) Samsung MEM-DR316L-SL02-ER18 M393B2G70QH0-CMA K4B4G0446Q-HCMA 2 RoHS Low Profile > $584 ($146 ea) >

___ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239756

GPU > NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB GDDR5 Graphics card > $1689.

____www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-K5000-Graphics-PNY/dp/B009L8E4UO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391826733&sr=8-1&keywords=quadro+K5000

HD 1 > SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD512BW 2.5" 512GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $400 (OS and Applications)

___ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147194

HD 2 and 3 > (2) Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST2000NM0033 2TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive > $ 394 ($197 ea) (RAID 1) (Files, system Image)

___ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178296

Power Supply > CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply > $160.

____http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011

Optical Drive > SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-224DB/BEBE - OEM > $20

Case > Case Labs > Mercury S8 > with options about $400

___ http://www.caselabs-store.com/mercury-s8/

OS > Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit- OEM > $190

____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416808

TOTAL = $7565

Still quite a lot of money- and now obsolete since the E5 v3 CPU's using DDR4 come out today (9.9.14) and the Quadro K5000 is now the K5200, but realistic and appropriate to my use. Plus, a savings of $124,000,..

Good discussion!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro 4000 (2GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >[Passmark system rating = 3923, 2D= 839 / 3D=2048]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit >[Passmark system rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

2D, 3D CAD, Image Processing, Rendering, Text > Architecture, industrial design, graphic design, written projects
 


Proofy,

Xeons are made for high density floating point, integer calculations and double precision, the ability to have 1,2,4, or 8 CPU's with high core counts- up to 18 cores per CPU, and also run contuously without error for years at a time. These qualities provide a lot of opportunities: there are motherboards that support 6TB of RAM and each CPU provides 40 PCIe lanes. All this does make a good server, but those who are desing complex 3D modeling- imagine modeling the entire atmosphere and predicting the weather, designing an aircraft carrier and routing every pipe and wire, or genomic analysis with billions of ATCG's to put in exact order. On a simpler level, ray tracing relies on having as many cores in parallel as possible- a single rendering on even a fast workstation with dual Xeons can take a long time- over an hour each.

As for gaming, the $131,000 system has in effect 8- GPUs with almost 20,000 CUDA cores and 96GB of GDDR5 RAM (there are 8X Quadro K6000) controlled by a separate 2.8GHz Xeon E5. My guess is that it could run Crysis 3 on the highest settings at a very good fps rate.

Cheers,

BambiBoom