Problems overclocking i5-4690k

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Hi all,

I have been referring to the past two videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pilo1E6kXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CHs5_TdpXE

in an attempt to overclock my i5-4690k 3.5 ghz processor on an Asus Vanguard B85 Motherboard with 8GB DDR RAM and an NVIDIA GTX 750 GPU. My Bios looks almost identical as to the ones shown in the video, and even displays the same version (2.10.1208) however the issue I am having is that firstly in the AI Overclock tuner I only have two options which is auto and xmp (no manual like shown in the video) after setting the core speed to 46, when navigating to the Voltage setting I have no fully manual mode option and when I select manual mode I cannot directly enter the voltage displayed in the video but instead there is a sub field below that appears called "CPU core voltage override" and it is only there where I can enter a voltage value. Now when I start the computer up it runs fine but when inspecting it using AIDA or Open Hardware monitor and running various stress testing programs, the CPU cores never get past 3900Mhz and usually hovers at around 3700Mhz and also the voltage never exceeds 1050 despite setting a value of 1200 in the core voltage override field..

My questions are therefore, for this specific rig, how far can one push it, is 3900Mhz the maximum it can go, and if not why is my UEFI Bios slightly different and not giving me the same options as in the video to not be able to directly set the voltage to 1200, is voltage even the issue, and how can I go about fixing all of this if it can be pushed past 3900mhz?

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That is an old article. But yeah, to my knowledge intel wants overclockers to buy Z87 or Z97 boards (97 series boards are just newer and have support for Broadwell processor. They are similiar to Z87, very similiar) :)

So, if nothing unexpected happened in the past months, you would have to buy Z87/97 in order to overclock.

But motherboard makers have "hacked" the "non z microcode" and then there were BIOS updates for several motherboards on the martket.

It all happened with the release of Pentium G3258 "20th Anniversary Edition" Processor from Intel.

The CPU, which costs 70$, needed Z87/Z97 boards in order to overclock. That was ridicilious ! :pfff: You needed 100$ MoBo to overclock a 70$ CPU. These are...
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You have a very strange rig. :D What`s it for? Gaming ?

i5 4690K is an unlocked processor thats used for overclocking. You know that and try to overclock. Fine.

But its not that simple. There are many "chipsets" H81 is the lowest cost chipset with no overclocking support from Intel. B85 is for small businesses and is a little better than H81. H87 and H97 are "Mainstream" chipsets. Z87 and Z97 are "Performance" chipsets.

Normally for overclocking you need Z87 or Z97. Others do not support overclocking. :(

Edit: Look Here

Edit 2: " Version 2005
Description VANGUARD B85 BIOS 2005
Support Intel® Pentium® Anniversary Edition CPU (G3258).

*Before using the new Intel 4th Gen Core processors, we suggest that you first download the BIOS updater for new Intel 4th Gen Core Processors and then update the BIOS using this tool."

There is a way that you can overclock. Click this link, select your OS, then go and download the latest BIOS (2102 right now) .

Then, download the Asus EZ Update from Utilities.

Edit3: I am not really sure. Its either BIOS Updater from BIOS Utilites or EZ Update from Utilities.
 
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Hi

Yes the pc was a gift intended for gaming from my abysmal rig that was over 6 years old.I'll have a look at the sites you sent and try see if that helps and post back here
 
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Oh I am very sorry to make things hard to understand for you.

Chipset has nothing to do with your i5 4690K. Its an amazing processor. No problems here. :D

Asus Vanguard B85 is the point. You said it yourself :) Its based on the B85 chipset.

Look at my previous post please. Update your bios. Try again what you tried. :)

Good luck.
 
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Could you please assist me in updating. I downloaded both the updater and the BIOS 2102 but the updater is asking me to locate the bios software and I am unsure where to locate it, and the 2102 software is a CAP file and I am not sure what to do with it. Sirry, very confused!

I also read this article:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/07/25/intel-overclocking-block/1, is this basically the reason you are stating why there may be in issue?

Thanks for the help.
 
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That is an old article. But yeah, to my knowledge intel wants overclockers to buy Z87 or Z97 boards (97 series boards are just newer and have support for Broadwell processor. They are similiar to Z87, very similiar) :)

So, if nothing unexpected happened in the past months, you would have to buy Z87/97 in order to overclock.

But motherboard makers have "hacked" the "non z microcode" and then there were BIOS updates for several motherboards on the martket.

It all happened with the release of Pentium G3258 "20th Anniversary Edition" Processor from Intel.

The CPU, which costs 70$, needed Z87/Z97 boards in order to overclock. That was ridicilious ! :pfff: You needed 100$ MoBo to overclock a 70$ CPU. These are threads about this CPU: Pentium Original Review by Tomshardware,Cheap overclocking using H81 by Tomshardware.

Of course these things matter little for you. It was just a small explanation about what happened.

I have found an Asus how to update page which is probably better than my explanation. Please look here!

Edit: 1. Download this and this BIOS file. Then continue to follow the Asus`s guide.
 
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Oh! Did you manage to Overclock on B85 ? Wow.. :D

What overclock are you running currently? (4.0ghz for example)
 
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Glad to hear that you've got it sorted. I've just got the Devil's Canyon i5 myself, and I'm overclocking it on a Asus Maximus Ranger mobo. I had it up to 4.8ghz in Battlefield 4 with the stock cooler! Obviously, it wasn't exactly stable and I hit 80 degrees for a moment there. I've since pulled it back a bit and I'm running up to 4.3-4.4 under full load. Fantastic CPU for the money.
 
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Given the cost of CPU and Motherboard, you really should buy your CPU a cooler.

Nobody likes hot air that they sweat. You CPU, also does not like it :D
 
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Yeah, I'm thinking of getting one of those Corsair closed system water coolers for my CPU in the future before I really push it. It's quite comfortable at the minute though, it only hits 60 degrees when it's really stressed even at 4.3ghz, and it seems very stable. Great CPU!

 
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Sorry for the late reply. I managed to get it to 4.6 ghz with a water cooler. The temperatures never get higher than around 40-45 degrees yet it wont let me overclock it higher than that. But I'm still glad I could get that much out of it.
 
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