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Hello. Im building a new gaming computer soon and I want to make sure that these parts are compatible/worth getting together. Im open to suggestions but I dont wanna go above £800.
Mainly using this for gaming, I want to make sure it runs GTA V when it comes out this autumn :).

CPU: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Generation-i5-3570K-3-40GHz-Technology/dp/B007SZ0E1K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409855453&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+i5+3570k

MoBo: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GA-Z77-DS3H-SKT-1155-Z77-DS3H-Motherboard/dp/B007KZQFOS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1409855490&sr=8-6&keywords=1155+motherboard

GPU: http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-Express-Display/dp/B00CY5GP08/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409855529&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+770

RAM: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409855561&sr=8-1&keywords=8gb+corsair+vengeance

HDD: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Barracuda-inch-Internal-Drive/dp/B006H32Q3S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409855782&sr=8-1&keywords=seagate+barracuda+2tb

PSU: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Builder-Series-Modular-Certified/dp/B00ALK3QRS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409855821&sr=8-2&keywords=corsair+750w

Drive: Doesnt really matter as ill get a cheap one near the time

Case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zalman-Z11-HF1-M-ATX-Tower/dp/B00CJZWQMY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409855902&sr=8-1&keywords=zalman+z11+hf1
 
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I dont know, but I have heard of many accounts in which people suggest that the 770 is one of the worst values on the market. Right now, it is suggested that you go up to a 780, drop down to 760 or get an r9 290 or r9 280x.
 
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I cant really see how this is overpriced as the 760 is around £50 less whereas the 780 is more than £150 more, and it certainly outperforms the 760 (even a 4gb). A 780 would certainly blow my budget... if only there was a 775...
 
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Any reason you are going for the i5 3570k rather than the recent generation i5 4690k? Also, were you planning on overclocking your CPU?

I would stay away from the Corsair Builder series (CX) since they use low quality capacitors that are likely to fail at high temps. Try to get an XFX, Seasonic or Antec PSU. This is a good one for the price:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seasonic-M12II-620-EVO-Edition-Bronze/dp/B00HHH8AA6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409866548&sr=8-2&keywords=seasonic+evo

Typically, people consider the gtx 770 overpriced when compared to the AMD r9 280x, if you want to stick to Nvidia GPUs then the 770 is a good choice (only choice?) for the price range. 230 GBP doesn't seem like a bad price for the gtx 770 to me though.
 
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Yeah it's a bit of a mess of parts tbh. Everything will just about work, but you can do a lot to improve the value of what you are getting. As a general comment, if you want to overclock you'll need a solid CPU cooler too.

CPU - If you are overclocking, get a 4690K. If you aren't overclocking, get a 4430/4440/4460.
Motherboard - If you are overclocking, get a good Z97. The board you have picked is a Z77 but it's incredibly low end - not good for overclocking and cut back features. For a good quality Z-series board you need to be looking around the £100 mark.
If you aren't overclocking, a H97 is absolutely fine. You can save money by shopping around amongst older H85/H81/B85 boards too if you need to save some cash.
Memory - Fine but overpriced, you can save at least £10 here.
HDD - Fine but check you actually need 2TB, and shop around for special offers.
PSU - More capacity than you need and mediocre quality. Grab the 550W XFX which is much better value, no modular cables though.
Case - Heard some negative things about the Z11 based around the side-bulges screwing up airflow. Cases are very subjective though, so if you like it then go for it.
Graphics - I wouldn't say the GTX770 is the worst value on the market - any high end card is much worse, but it's likely going to be beaten by the R9 280X for value as they are generally pretty comparable and the 280X models average £20-40 cheaper. If you have a preference towards Nvidia, play games which favour Nvidia cards, or have a particular investment in Nvidia propriety tech (Gysync, Physx, whatever) then that price premium isn't such a big deal.
There's other benefits too, like generally lower power consumption and solid reference coolers (good for smaller cases, SLI, and other niche applications) so it's not a huge win for AMD.

Knock all of those together and you end up with something a bit like this for non-overclocking.

And here's an overclocking version which includes a suitable motherboard, cooler, and an upgraded PSU for Crossfire if you want it.

As they both include the same graphics card (for consistency) they will perform fairly similarly in most games.
 
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Im not that fussed about overclocking massively, maybe just a little.
Is a Z79 really necessary for overclocking as it seems a bit OP and expensive. Can anybody recommend a good quality Z77 or Z78?
Im going to get a 4670k. Should be good enough and I might as well get it unlocked for like a tiny bit more., plus if/when I want to try a bit of overclocking its always there.
 
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i7 4770 performance and a better GPU. :)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£179.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£55.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£60.87 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (£272.34 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.59 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£61.65 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.22 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£38.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £760.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-05 22:17 BST+0100
 
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In a word - yes. Z77 is a totally different socket (and has been discontinued for some time). Z97 is the replacement for Z87 but the features are fairly similar - as is the pricing. There are cheap models of all of these boards but they remove significant chipset features and aren't going to be good overclockers.
If you aren't overclocking then a motherboard doesn't need to be expensive, if you are, then it kinda does. I stand by my ~£100 suggestion for overclocking boards.

Don't get a 4670K. It's recently been replaced by the similar 4690K which has better thermal materials which means it overclocks better and costs almost exactly the same.

The problem with overclocking builds is that you need to spend extra on multiple components, you can't just count the difference in price of CPUs. When you add together the extra cost of the CPU, motherboard and suitable cooler (as well as possible extra spending on a PSU and memory) you could easily be looking at £150+ extra for going down this route.
I'm not trying to dissuade you, overclocking builds are very popular - but cutting corners on the supporting components will mean you'll never get the true value of that CPU.



It's ok but there's a few mistakes which push it over £800.


 
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I'm not questioning the choice of components, suggest what you like, but blindly linking pcpartpicker links without checking they are valid doesn't help anyone.
ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer - Doesn't appear to be sold directly in the UK. Would probably sell for £70-80+
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional - around £100 for a proper copy.
 
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A "refurbished" OS isn't really the same thing as a boxed version and there's multiple reviews saying they had problems. It's much like taking your chances on EBay or whatever.

And the motherboard isn't a H97 Killer, they've just used the wrong image and for some reason PCpartpicker has listed it as such. There's a couple of obvious red flags - nowhere else in the UK sells that board, and it's a new(ish) board which is totally out of it's price bracket.
What they are actually selling for £56 is this.
 
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My bad, I guess lack of sleep and 12hr shifts are really messing me up. Thanks for the catches. Hopefully, I have it right now. I have never seen US Amazon get it as bad as those UK listings are.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£179.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£65.94 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£60.87 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (£259.55 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.59 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£61.65 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.22 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.98 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £789.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 05:43 BST+0100
 
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