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September 5, 2014 5:35:38 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6ZQ7Mp
First,I thought of getting an FX-8350 because I have an M5A99X EVO motherboard.But I realised that getting an i5 would be a lot better choice,since I can upgrade to an i7 in the future and I can add another GPU on the H97 mobo.
I already have the Thermaltake PSU.
Is it going to be enough or do I have to buy a new one?
Thanks in advance. ;) 

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September 5, 2014 5:46:55 AM

This is a good build.
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September 5, 2014 5:47:44 AM

Yea,I know that. ;)  I'm not a rookie. :p 
What about the PSU? Is it gonna be enough for the R9 280X?
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September 5, 2014 5:51:26 AM

Yeah thats enough for a 280x, although Thermaltake PSUS dont have a great reputation.

That seems a lot to spend on a motherboard, do you need all the features?

What about a SSD?
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September 5, 2014 5:56:49 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VH4DnQ

Slightly cheaper and better imo.

Will have faster boot and load times due to the SSHD Hybrid drive, the B85 mobo is a bit cheaper and the PSU is better and cheaper.
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September 5, 2014 5:57:51 AM

RobCrezz said:
Yeah thats enough for a 280x, although Thermaltake PSUS dont have a great reputation.

That seems a lot to spend on a motherboard, do you need all the features?

What about a SSD?


I can get a Gigabyte GA-H97 HD3 for a motherboard.
I don't really need an SSD right now,I might buy that in the future,but right now,I barely can afford this,so you get the point.
I can get a Seasonic S12II 620W,but I don't wanna spend money if it's not absolutely needed.
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September 5, 2014 5:59:56 AM

Have a look at my build linked above
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September 5, 2014 6:00:26 AM

I saw it,but read my answer above. ;) 
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September 5, 2014 6:02:56 AM

LukaBoki said:
I saw it,but read my answer above. ;) 


Well you may not have, because my build was cheaper?

Here it is again
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VH4DnQ
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September 5, 2014 6:06:03 AM

I can't find a Fractal Desing in my country.
Once again,I can get a Gigabyte H97 HD3 motherboard,because I may want to upgrade to an i7 in the future and add another R9 280X or a single GTX 780 or something.
I can also get a Seasonic S12 II Bronze 620W if absolutely necessary,but I don't wanna buy if it isn't needed.
The Hybrid is way to expensive in my country,it's 90 euros.
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September 5, 2014 6:06:24 AM

LukaBoki said:
Yea,I know that. ;)  I'm not a rookie. :p 
What about the PSU? Is it gonna be enough for the R9 280X?


The power supply you have has a +12V rating of 45A or 540W.
For these components you need a supply with a rating at least 39A or 468W.
The supply has the necessary power rating and connectors.

The Thermaltake Smart series replace the Purepower series.
These are tier 3 on this list:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...

Here is a review of your supply:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-Smar...

I think the quality is OK. You should be fine with your current power supply.
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September 5, 2014 6:07:44 AM

LukaBoki said:
I can't find a Fractal Desing in my country.
Once again,I can get a Gigabyte H97 HD3 motherboard,because I may want to upgrade to an i7 in the future and add another R9 280X or a single GTX 780 or something.
I can also get a Seasonic S12 II Bronze 620W if absolutely necessary,but I don't wanna buy if it isn't needed.
The Hybrid is way to expensive in my country,it's 90 euros.


Ah ok, I thought you were in USA, as your partpicker was set to USA.

The B85 will take an i7 no problem, but yeah you will need a more expensive H87/H97 if you plan to SLI.

I just couldnt build a computer without a SSD or SSHD, it makes the computer so much nicer to use.
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September 5, 2014 6:13:32 AM

VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
Yea,I know that. ;)  I'm not a rookie. :p 
What about the PSU? Is it gonna be enough for the R9 280X?


The power supply you have has a +12V rating of 45A or 540W.
For these components you need a supply with a rating at least 39A or 468W.
The supply has the necessary power rating and connectors.

The Thermaltake Smart series replace the Purepower series.
These are tier 3 on this list:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...

Here is a review of your supply:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-Smar...

I think the quality is OK. You should be fine with your current power supply.


I actually have a Smart SE,which has 49A an +12 rail. :) 
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September 5, 2014 6:17:09 AM

RobCrezz said:
LukaBoki said:
I can't find a Fractal Desing in my country.
Once again,I can get a Gigabyte H97 HD3 motherboard,because I may want to upgrade to an i7 in the future and add another R9 280X or a single GTX 780 or something.
I can also get a Seasonic S12 II Bronze 620W if absolutely necessary,but I don't wanna buy if it isn't needed.
The Hybrid is way to expensive in my country,it's 90 euros.


Ah ok, I thought you were in USA, as your partpicker was set to USA.

The B85 will take an i7 no problem, but yeah you will need a more expensive H87/H97 if you plan to SLI.

I just couldnt build a computer without a SSD or SSHD, it makes the computer so much nicer to use.


I will get an SSD in the future. :) 
What about some other B85 ATX motherboard?
The Thermaltake should be enough for my system?
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September 5, 2014 6:17:43 AM

LukaBoki said:
I can't find a Fractal Desing in my country.
Once again,I can get a Gigabyte H97 HD3 motherboard,because I may want to upgrade to an i7 in the future and add another R9 280X or a single GTX 780 or something.
I can also get a Seasonic S12 II Bronze 620W if absolutely necessary,but I don't wanna buy if it isn't needed.
The Hybrid is way to expensive in my country,it's 90 euros.


Thinking about Crossfire changes many things. Unless this is a major requirement for you, leave it out.
Adding a second R280X will definitely mean a new power supply (good quality 850W).
The motherboard you have chosen is good for a single card, but the second x16 slot only operates at PCI-E 2.0 x4 speed, meaning the main x16 slot operates 8 times faster. This is rubbish for crossfire or SLI.
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September 5, 2014 6:19:06 AM

VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
I can't find a Fractal Desing in my country.
Once again,I can get a Gigabyte H97 HD3 motherboard,because I may want to upgrade to an i7 in the future and add another R9 280X or a single GTX 780 or something.
I can also get a Seasonic S12 II Bronze 620W if absolutely necessary,but I don't wanna buy if it isn't needed.
The Hybrid is way to expensive in my country,it's 90 euros.


Thinking about Crossfire changes many things. Unless this is a major requirement for you, leave it out.
Adding a second R280X will definitely mean a new power supply (good quality 850W).
The motherboard you have chosen is good for a single card, but the second x16 slot only operates at PCI-E 2.0 x4 speed, meaning the main x16 slot operates 8 times faster. This is rubbish for crossfire or SLI.


True.
What about ATX B85 motherboards?
Preferably ASUS and Gigabyte.
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September 5, 2014 6:19:18 AM

LukaBoki said:
VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
Yea,I know that. ;)  I'm not a rookie. :p 
What about the PSU? Is it gonna be enough for the R9 280X?


The power supply you have has a +12V rating of 45A or 540W.
For these components you need a supply with a rating at least 39A or 468W.
The supply has the necessary power rating and connectors.

The Thermaltake Smart series replace the Purepower series.
These are tier 3 on this list:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...

Here is a review of your supply:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-Smar...

I think the quality is OK. You should be fine with your current power supply.


I actually have a Smart SE,which has 49A an +12 rail. :) 


This is the supply I found:
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_000...

I'm sure it will be fine anyway.
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September 5, 2014 6:21:14 AM

Great,so the Seasonic is out of the list.
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September 5, 2014 6:28:38 AM

LukaBoki said:
VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
I can't find a Fractal Desing in my country.
Once again,I can get a Gigabyte H97 HD3 motherboard,because I may want to upgrade to an i7 in the future and add another R9 280X or a single GTX 780 or something.
I can also get a Seasonic S12 II Bronze 620W if absolutely necessary,but I don't wanna buy if it isn't needed.
The Hybrid is way to expensive in my country,it's 90 euros.


Thinking about Crossfire changes many things. Unless this is a major requirement for you, leave it out.
Adding a second R280X will definitely mean a new power supply (good quality 850W).
The motherboard you have chosen is good for a single card, but the second x16 slot only operates at PCI-E 2.0 x4 speed, meaning the main x16 slot operates 8 times faster. This is rubbish for crossfire or SLI.


True.
What about ATX B85 motherboards?
Preferably ASUS and Gigabyte.


If you truly want a motherboard for SLI or Crossfire, you want a board that can operate two x16 slots at PCI-E 3.0 x8 speed.
For that you will be going up to a Z97 chipset, and spending more.
Not even all Z97 motherboards support this.
Here are examples of boards that do:
http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/GRYPHON_Z97/specifi...
http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VII_GENE/sp...
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September 5, 2014 6:32:38 AM

VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
I can't find a Fractal Desing in my country.
Once again,I can get a Gigabyte H97 HD3 motherboard,because I may want to upgrade to an i7 in the future and add another R9 280X or a single GTX 780 or something.
I can also get a Seasonic S12 II Bronze 620W if absolutely necessary,but I don't wanna buy if it isn't needed.
The Hybrid is way to expensive in my country,it's 90 euros.


Thinking about Crossfire changes many things. Unless this is a major requirement for you, leave it out.
Adding a second R280X will definitely mean a new power supply (good quality 850W).
The motherboard you have chosen is good for a single card, but the second x16 slot only operates at PCI-E 2.0 x4 speed, meaning the main x16 slot operates 8 times faster. This is rubbish for crossfire or SLI.


True.
What about ATX B85 motherboards?
Preferably ASUS and Gigabyte.


If you truly want a motherboard for SLI or Crossfire, you want a board that can operate two x16 slots at PCI-E 3.0 x8 speed.
For that you will be going up to a Z97 chipset, and spending more.
Not even all Z97 motherboards support this.
Here are examples of boards that do:
http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/GRYPHON_Z97/specifi...
http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VII_GENE/sp...


No Crossfire or anything. :) 
Any mobo that can support an i7 4790K and that has PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 will be great.
I don't want to OC the CPU and I prefer ATX Gigabyte or ASUS motherboards.
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September 5, 2014 6:45:50 AM

LukaBoki said:
VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
I can't find a Fractal Desing in my country.
Once again,I can get a Gigabyte H97 HD3 motherboard,because I may want to upgrade to an i7 in the future and add another R9 280X or a single GTX 780 or something.
I can also get a Seasonic S12 II Bronze 620W if absolutely necessary,but I don't wanna buy if it isn't needed.
The Hybrid is way to expensive in my country,it's 90 euros.


Thinking about Crossfire changes many things. Unless this is a major requirement for you, leave it out.
Adding a second R280X will definitely mean a new power supply (good quality 850W).
The motherboard you have chosen is good for a single card, but the second x16 slot only operates at PCI-E 2.0 x4 speed, meaning the main x16 slot operates 8 times faster. This is rubbish for crossfire or SLI.


True.
What about ATX B85 motherboards?
Preferably ASUS and Gigabyte.


If you truly want a motherboard for SLI or Crossfire, you want a board that can operate two x16 slots at PCI-E 3.0 x8 speed.
For that you will be going up to a Z97 chipset, and spending more.
Not even all Z97 motherboards support this.
Here are examples of boards that do:
http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/GRYPHON_Z97/specifi...
http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VII_GENE/sp...


No Crossfire or anything. :) 
Any mobo that can support an i7 4790K and that has PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 will be great.
I don't want to OC the CPU and I prefer ATX Gigabyte or ASUS motherboards.


You would be surprised how little the ATX boards have over mATX.
These were just examples anyway, there are ATX versions of the same boards at even higher cost.
The board you picked originally is fine for a single card setup.
It will accept the 4790K, but does not support overclocking.
For that also you would need a Z97 board.
If not overclocking, don't worry about a K edition.
Note that Core i7 has no benefit over core i5 for gaming.
If really that streesed about CPU performance (which you needn't be), choose a faster core i5.
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September 5, 2014 6:55:42 AM

So,a Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3 will do the job?
That one's cheaper than the ASUS H97-PLUS.
This is the build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cZzy8d
(Here it is a D3H,but I want a HD3. ;)  )
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September 5, 2014 7:22:36 AM

LukaBoki said:
So,a Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3 will do the job?
That one's cheaper than the ASUS H97-PLUS.
This is the build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cZzy8d
(Here it is a D3H,but I want a HD3. ;)  )


Either board is fine.
D3H has a better audio codec and better LAN chipset. Why do you want the HD3?
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September 5, 2014 7:23:45 AM

VincentP said:
LukaBoki said:
So,a Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3 will do the job?
That one's cheaper than the ASUS H97-PLUS.
This is the build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cZzy8d
(Here it is a D3H,but I want a HD3. ;)  )


Either board is fine.
D3H has a better audio codec and better LAN chipset. Why do you want the HD3?


Cheaper. :D 
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September 5, 2014 7:43:08 AM

RobCrezz said:
Yeah thats enough for a 280x, although Thermaltake PSUS dont have a great reputation.


The thermaltake smart series is the replacement for the unreliable TR2 series (Which is fine when not loaded fully)

Passed all the tests hardwaresecrets threw at it and managed 700W at 45C before safely shutting down.
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September 5, 2014 7:45:03 AM

Eximo said:
RobCrezz said:
Yeah thats enough for a 280x, although Thermaltake PSUS dont have a great reputation.


The thermaltake smart series is the replacement for the unreliable TR2 series (Which is fine when not loaded fully)

Passed all the tests hardwaresecrets threw at it and managed 700W at 45C before safely shutting down.


So in theory,it should be enough?
I will do some extreme gaming from time to time,playing BF4 and Crysis 3.
My grandad can get me a Seasonic S12II Bronze 620W for my birthday,which is pretty soon.
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