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September 6, 2014 9:20:24 AM

just want your thoughts on this one

AMD A8 5600K BLACK EDITION BOX
asrock FM2A55M
G.SKILL ripjaws 4GB (2X2GB) ddr3 1333mhz
EVGA geforce gt 630 1GB
wd caviar blue 500gb
EVGA 600W bronze psu


New build
ASUS A55BM-E motherbaord
ASUS R7250x
AMD A8-6600K
500GB 7200 caviar blue
4gb ripjaws 1600
coolermaster T4 cooler
corsair CX430m PSU
win7 64 bit

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September 6, 2014 9:29:04 AM

Never go with such a bad graphics card, I would recommend a 750 at least. A 630 would not be able to play anything. :) 
As for the rest it looks fine.
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September 6, 2014 9:33:48 AM

The graphics part of that APU 5600k will probably perform better then that GT630
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September 6, 2014 9:35:17 AM

First off the CPU, unless you are using integrated graphics, which you aren't, this CPU is a bad bad choice. At least get an AMD Athlon II 360k. Its much much faster.

The GPU is actually okay, for a cheap gaming computer. I have had similar cards and they can play games at medium to low quality settings. Never buy a GTX 750Ti, as the competing R7 265 is cheaper and has much better performance.

If you don't have that much cash, look into the Nvidia GT 730 as they are a bit better and cheaper.
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September 6, 2014 9:39:37 AM

ShadyHamster said:
The graphics part of that APU 5600k will probably perform better then that GT630


Are you joking? The graphics in that APU are much slower than the graphics card.
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September 6, 2014 9:41:40 AM

If it's a tight budget he is better off forgetting about a 'GT' model card and putting that money towards a better apu and memory.

What is your budget? Maybe someone can heap piece together a better system for you.
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September 6, 2014 9:48:01 AM

This looks old. Are you asking if we recommend that you buy it? The components aren't good for gaming.
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September 6, 2014 9:51:42 AM

ShadyHamster said:
If it's a tight budget he is better off forgetting about a 'GT' model card and putting that money towards a better apu and memory.

What is your budget? Maybe someone can heap piece together a better system for you.


Well it is true that getting something like an A10-6800k or better can outperform some GT 630s depending on if it has DDR3 or DDR5 and other factors. Still, the GT 730 with 384 CUDA cores, 64-bit interface and GDDR5 is faster and can be had for around $60-$70. Then the $80 360k or 370k will give better performance overall.
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September 6, 2014 10:36:34 PM

Erik-DK said:
Never go with such a bad graphics card, I would recommend a 750 at least. A 630 would not be able to play anything. :) 
As for the rest it looks fine.


ShadyHamster said:
The graphics part of that APU 5600k will probably perform better then that GT630


i see people on youtube playing bf3 on it, so it dont think its that bad ?
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September 6, 2014 10:37:39 PM

ShadyHamster said:
If it's a tight budget he is better off forgetting about a 'GT' model card and putting that money towards a better apu and memory.

What is your budget? Maybe someone can heap piece together a better system for you.


Not more than 350 euro
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September 6, 2014 10:52:30 PM

lordas said:
Erik-DK said:
Never go with such a bad graphics card, I would recommend a 750 at least. A 630 would not be able to play anything. :) 
As for the rest it looks fine.


ShadyHamster said:
The graphics part of that APU 5600k will probably perform better then that GT630


i see people on youtube playing bf3 on it, so it dont think its that bad ?


Like I said originally, the GT 630 isn't that bad. I've used slower GPUs to play Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider, though granted at low settings. The problem with buying it is simply that its not economical. There are other GPUs that give better performance for the same amount of money or better almost always. The CPU is similar, well except in truth that CPU really is just right off bad to begin with. Much better CPUs can be bought for the same money.

Since you are in Europe we will need to know what country and if you have it what website or store you are able to buy from so we can pick parts for you. Otherwise its hard to get prices right between countries.
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September 7, 2014 7:12:30 AM

night owl
yeah im not trying to make you guys build a system for me. just asking for opinions and what you would change.
UPDATE i decided to go with the ASUS R7 250 1gb and for the cpu im not sure, there are many to choose from. suggest me one
also, dont worry about the gpu he is only playing minecraft, A.V.A and CS propably some gta iv too
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September 7, 2014 7:58:20 AM

Without comparing prices I will just shout out a list of cheap CPUs worth considering:

AMD Athlon II x4 760k (With GPU)
AMD A10-6700 (Without GPU)
AMD A10-6800k (Without GPU)
AMD A10-6790k (Without GPU)
AMD A10-7700k (Without GPU)
AMD A10-7850k (Without GPU)
Intel Pentium G3258 (Only if you know how to overclock)

GPUs:
AMD R7 250
AMD R7 250x
AMD R7 260
AMD R7 260x
Nvidia GT 730
Nvidia GT 740
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September 7, 2014 11:34:03 AM

intel cpu on fm2 socket /.....? dude
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September 7, 2014 1:36:39 PM

lordas said:
intel cpu on fm2 socket /.....? dude


I didn't specify a motherboard. I listed all possible CPUs that would be a good choice in your price range, I listed the Intel CPU because its a solid unit when overclocked, obviously if you buy the Intel CPU you would have to use a different motherboard. However its always a bad idea to buy a computer without considering both sides.
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September 8, 2014 1:20:41 PM

what cpu would you recommend for my build ? not something expensive tho
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September 8, 2014 4:52:19 PM

I just listed every CPU you should consider, I guess I can break it down a little more if you are confused.

If you want a little better CPU performance with graphics equal to about an $60 GPU, buy one of these.
AMD A10-7700k (Without GPU)
AMD A10-7850k (Without GPU)

If you want to save as much money as possible, you can look at last years APUs. The advantage to them is that they are a fair bit cheaper, and they don't really lose much in CPU or GPU performance, and actually on CPU performance occasionally win.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-review-a8...
AMD A10-6700 (Without GPU)
AMD A10-6800k (Without GPU)
AMD A10-6790k (Without GPU)

If you want the most CPU performance for low end, one of these comes out to be the best. The Pentium CPU is only worth considering if you know how to overclock and get a motherboard capable of it. While the 760k has cheaper motherboards that let you overclock, it doesn't need overclocked as much. Its performance is higher to start with.
Intel Pentium G3258
AMD Athlon II x4 760k

For the GPUs, it remains relatively unchnaged:
GPUs:
AMD R7 250
AMD R7 250x
AMD R7 260
AMD R7 260x
Nvidia GT 730
Nvidia GT 740

The R7 260x has by far the best performance followed by the R7 260 and R7 250x. I would try to stay away from the other cards personally.


One other possibility if you can find it cheap where you are is if you can find an AMD Radeon HD 6770. The reason I am suggesting this card in particular is because here they are selling extremely cheap, only about $30. They outperform the AMD APUs especially when they have GDDR5 memory, and if you can get one for that cheap it would let you get an AMD FX 6300 instead which will give you a much faster CPU and help give your system a little better life span.
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September 9, 2014 9:45:52 AM

Thanks IInuyasha74 that was very informative for my future builds
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September 15, 2014 1:50:02 PM

ok so im back, my fried decided to spent some more money on the pc so i changed the specs completely,
i i went with :
AMD FX 4300 3.8GHz
Asus M5A78L-M LX3
Some GISKILL 1600 ripjaws ram 4gb 1 stick(for possible upgrade)
Asus R7 250x 1GB
WD caviar blue 500g 7200
EVGA 600B Bronze 600w
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September 15, 2014 3:26:17 PM

Well you would of been probably better to get either the FX 6300 or the Athlon x4 760k. Outside of having L3 cache the FX 4300 and the Athlon x4 760k are very similar, but the Athlon is cheaper so it would of been a better pick to go with if you couldn't get the FX 6300. That would of let you recycle the extra cash into more RAM or a better GPU.

Same thing for your PSU, as its really overkill for this system. Though it should play games fine, I'm just not sure you got the best performance for your money you could have.
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September 15, 2014 4:09:30 PM

I gotta agree with above. Go 6300 or 760K and try to upgrade the GPU. As for power, get at least 500W, but 550-600W is safest for future.
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September 15, 2014 4:11:52 PM

Well yea if you have more future upgrades planned, then the PSU is a little more justified and understandable, but if you are pretty much going to build this and stick with it then you would be better to go with the 430w EVGA PSU that is very popular for builds like this.
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September 16, 2014 2:31:27 AM

First of all, thank you for your time helping me out
the main reason i used this psu its cause its the exact same price for a 500w. so let it be. wont hurt to have 100 more wats
the 6300 is more expensive and with it being out of league ,
the 760k has fm2 socket and has a higher power consumption than the 4300
although they are very similar, the 4300 is unlocked, but...nahidont really think he is going to need an unlocked processor ,

and since this guy is mostly going to play minecraft , yes you read it right. thats why i dont care much about the gpu. minecraft, A.V.A., probably GTA IV .
and judging by youtube, this little card can run bf4 on High settings that's more than enough.


Now with the 760k i save 10 bucks over the 4300
im still with 1stick of 4gb ripjaws
im going with asus motherboard
i forgot to mention i will chill the cpu with a ZALMAN CNPS5X PERFORMA

i want to point out, that with
AMD FX 4300 3.8GHz
Asus M5A78L-M LX3
COST = 402.67


With the AMD X4 760K 3.80
Asus A55BM-E
COST = 400.01

Price is the same, shall i procced with Athlon or go with FX.
Your thoughts ?
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September 16, 2014 6:43:08 AM

If the price difference for CPU is really that small, stick with it. However, the PSU all you need is the cheaper 430w PSU from EVGA. That might save some extra so I would check it.
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September 16, 2014 7:11:04 AM

IInuyasha74 said:
If the price difference for CPU is really that small, stick with it. However, the PSU all you need is the cheaper 430w PSU from EVGA. That might save some extra so I would check it.


the site i am shopping from didnt have 430w evga psu. so will get the corsair CX430 instead

Thanks for all the advice.
ill post again with updates of the finished pc
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September 16, 2014 7:42:19 AM

That is a good one. Save a few extra bucks. Throw that in to CPU upgrade if you are close to FX 6300, but if not then getting 2x4GB RAM sticks, or else just pocket the extra. Either way it will work well.
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September 16, 2014 8:07:02 AM

IInuyasha74 said:
That is a good one. Save a few extra bucks. Throw that in to CPU upgrade if you are close to FX 6300, but if not then getting 2x4GB RAM sticks, or else just pocket the extra. Either way it will work well.


ill stick with the current build
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September 26, 2014 12:28:07 PM

i just got a call, they dont have the 760k anymore, they replaced it with the A8 6600K instead its like 8 bucks more...no problem.
still waiting for the package :) 
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September 26, 2014 2:12:36 PM

That shouldn't be too different really. Think it has a higher clock speed to start with, so if no overclock is done it will be a bit better.

It also has integrated graphics, but that is even less important since they won't be used. However they make for a good backup if the GPU is ever in question of being bad.
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October 9, 2014 5:23:56 AM

ok so.. the pc is built and working, but its very slow. specially during boot. OMG
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October 9, 2014 7:48:29 AM

Just as a reminder, what specs did you end up with? I know the CPU, but what was the rest? (Include software and OS)
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October 9, 2014 11:22:44 AM

IInuyasha74 said:
Just as a reminder, what specs did you end up with? I know the CPU, but what was the rest? (Include software and OS)


I just updated the post, take a look
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October 9, 2014 12:58:46 PM

Seeing that now I would say that you would probably have been better not to buy an aftermarket cooler, since the stock one would work fine anyways, and putting that money back into a faster HDD or more RAM. 4GB of RAM works but 8GB is really the sweet spot, and most HDDs under 1TB in size now are slow by modern day standards because they are build with older tech that the industry more ore less stopped working to advance.

Anyways, how long is it taking for your system to boot? There might be some things to help cure the issue. If it is longer than 30 seconds I would say you should check the BIOS and first and try to disable unused parts of the board to help streamline the booting process and activate any speed boot functions not already in use. You can also try increasing the CPU clock speed to help it push through faster, but that is really about all you can do on that side of things.

If it is getting to Windows and taking a long time between that point and the point at which everything has finished loading, then you can further try to disable programs set for automatic start with the system to help shorten it.
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October 10, 2014 3:07:53 AM

IInuyasha74 said:
Seeing that now I would say that you would probably have been better not to buy an aftermarket cooler, since the stock one would work fine anyways, and putting that money back into a faster HDD or more RAM. 4GB of RAM works but 8GB is really the sweet spot, and most HDDs under 1TB in size now are slow by modern day standards because they are build with older tech that the industry more ore less stopped working to advance.

Anyways, how long is it taking for your system to boot? There might be some things to help cure the issue. If it is longer than 30 seconds I would say you should check the BIOS and first and try to disable unused parts of the board to help streamline the booting process and activate any speed boot functions not already in use. You can also try increasing the CPU clock speed to help it push through faster, but that is really about all you can do on that side of things.

If it is getting to Windows and taking a long time between that point and the point at which everything has finished loading, then you can further try to disable programs set for automatic start with the system to help shorten it.


i have already done what you said.
also the T4 is not that expensive, and its definately better than the stock one since my friends case doesnt have a intake fan slot. the hdd is 7200rpm .
the mobo doesnt have that much to disable.
it takes an entire minute to boot. from push of button to desktop, and then you have to wait an other 30 seconds to be able to use the desktop otherwise its slow and laggy if you rush it

boots to post screen fast but
the starting windows screen is what makes eveyrthing slow....

Edit: ok so i set max memory and cpu cores in msocnfig and it boots 10 seconds faster
note that fast boot is also enabled , and doesnt make a difference at all...
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