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September 6, 2014 2:45:43 PM

So, basically, I'm going to make my first computer. I know how everything works and I have a list of all the parts I think I will purchase. The problem is, because this is my first build, I'm not sure if this will work together, or if it has enough cooling, or if it's good for playing games and working. The parts I have are:

HDD- http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-mainstream-1tb-internal-...

RAM- http://www.frys.com/product/6898106?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...

GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-117-...

WiFi Card- http://www.bestbuy.com/site/rosewill-ieee-802-11n-wi-fi...

Monitor- http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-21-5-led-hd-monitor/58...

Keyboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mother Board- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-157-...

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- http://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-600w-cx600-atx-powe...


I just need to know if it will work and if you have any suggestions that would be greatly appreciated.

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September 6, 2014 2:47:27 PM

Rather than having ten different links to click through for each part, it would be a lot easier on us if you could organize your build on this website:

pcpartpicker.com

and post back.
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September 6, 2014 2:49:21 PM

RazerZ said:
Rather than having ten different links to click through for each part, it would be a lot easier on us if you could organize your build on this website:

pcpartpicker.com

and post back.


I have tried that but the website doesn't have all my parts.
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September 6, 2014 2:53:07 PM

Hey there, welcome to Tom's!

Here's what I'm thinking
-switch to two sticks of 4Gb ram instead of one stick of 8Gb. This will allow your motherboard to run in dual channel mode, it's a performance gain.
-The PSU is overkill for that graphics card, you only need about 400-450W. This one would be a good fit.
-The graphics card you are looking at will have a hard time on today's newest titles like BF4 @ 1920x1080. You will be turning down the graphics settings to medium or so to get good frame rates. I'd consider a cheaper cpu/motherboard combo in order to allow you to upgrade the GPU (which in turn will also require a higher PSU than the one I just recommended).
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September 6, 2014 3:41:16 PM

RazerZ said:
Rather than having ten different links to click through for each part, it would be a lot easier on us if you could organize your build on this website:

pcpartpicker.com

and post back.


RazerZ, this is the best I could do. It is all the parts except the hard drive and the memory.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Baklou/saved/2qKKHx
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September 6, 2014 3:44:28 PM

jimthenagual said:
Hey there, welcome to Tom's!

Here's what I'm thinking
-switch to two sticks of 4Gb ram instead of one stick of 8Gb. This will allow your motherboard to run in dual channel mode, it's a performance gain.
-The PSU is overkill for that graphics card, you only need about 400-450W. This one would be a good fit.
-The graphics card you are looking at will have a hard time on today's newest titles like BF4 @ 1920x1080. You will be turning down the graphics settings to medium or so to get good frame rates. I'd consider a cheaper cpu/motherboard combo in order to allow you to upgrade the GPU (which in turn will also require a higher PSU than the one I just recommended).


Thank you for the reply. For the GPU, I am definitely looking for Nvidia GeForce. But what graphics card would be a good one?
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September 6, 2014 3:46:39 PM

What games are you hoping to play? I see your monitor is 1920x1080. If you are wanting to play today's most demanding games on high/ultra settings, you'll want to get a minimum gtx770 ($300). But everyone has a budget. If you can't afford to go higher, maybe the gtx 760 ($200). It can handle that type of game quite well on high settings.
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September 6, 2014 3:53:55 PM

jimthenagual said:
What games are you hoping to play? I see your monitor is 1920x1080. If you are wanting to play today's most demanding games on high/ultra settings, you'll want to get a minimum gtx770 ($300). But everyone has a budget. If you can't afford to go higher, maybe the gtx 760 ($200). It can handle that type of game quite well on high settings.


The graphics don't have to be up to the maximum, but I am hoping to play some more recent games. I am looking for some memory now, what would be a good brand and price range?
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September 6, 2014 3:54:18 PM

I will also suggest to save a few bucks for other parts, not getting that pioneer optical and go for the LG UH12N, its a couple of bucks less but has been a good choice.
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September 6, 2014 3:55:49 PM

Before I forget, if you are planning on gaming I would forgo the wireless card, save a few extra bucks and just use LAN, faster and more reliable.
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September 6, 2014 4:00:32 PM

Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.
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September 6, 2014 4:02:09 PM

Nice build RazerZ, +1
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September 6, 2014 4:06:12 PM

CAS latency in simple terms is how long it takes the ram to respond when asked to do something. The lower the CAS latency the better.
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September 6, 2014 4:08:34 PM

jimthenagual said:
CAS latency in simple terms is how long it takes the ram to respond when asked to do something. The lower the CAS latency the better.


Then what is the timing? It looks similar but it has 4 numbers. Also, new link is http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Baklou/saved/HvzhP6

EDIT: I just noticed the memory supports LGA1155, but I use LGA1150
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September 6, 2014 4:14:43 PM

Baklou said:
jimthenagual said:
CAS latency in simple terms is how long it takes the ram to respond when asked to do something. The lower the CAS latency the better.


Then what is the timing? It looks similar but it has 4 numbers. Also, new link is http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Baklou/saved/HvzhP6

EDIT: I just noticed the memory supports LGA1155, but I use LGA1150


As long as it's DDR3 ram it will work with any modern motherboard.
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September 6, 2014 4:25:22 PM

RazerZ said:
Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.
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September 6, 2014 4:35:20 PM

Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.


I tried to find the best deals I can when I post pc builds. Ex: The monitor I posted is slightly larger and has a great IPS display. It's also cheaper, so with the savings from the monitor you can get a decent pair of speakers to pair with it, which would be much better than any speakers built into a monitor.

If you have questions on any part of the build just ask.
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September 6, 2014 4:36:51 PM

RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.


I tried to find the best deals I can when I post pc builds. Ex: The monitor I posted is slightly larger and has a great IPS display. It's also cheaper, so with the savings from the monitor you can get a decent pair of speakers to pair with it, which would be much better than any speakers built into a monitor.

If you have questions on any part of the build just ask.


How would your keyboard compare with mine? I don't care about the mouse, I already own one (R.A.T. 7)
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September 6, 2014 4:37:52 PM

Baklou said:

How would RazerZ's hard drive compare to mine?


It'll depend on who you ask. Some like WD some like Seagate. I personally went with Seagate on my system.
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September 6, 2014 4:42:47 PM

Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.


I tried to find the best deals I can when I post pc builds. Ex: The monitor I posted is slightly larger and has a great IPS display. It's also cheaper, so with the savings from the monitor you can get a decent pair of speakers to pair with it, which would be much better than any speakers built into a monitor.

If you have questions on any part of the build just ask.


How would your keyboard compare with mine? I don't care about the mouse, I already own one (R.A.T. 7)


Not much to compare here... it's a basic keyboard with red led back-lighting. If it's temporary you might as well pick up a cheap V7 keyboard or something similar off amazon for around seven bucks.
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September 6, 2014 4:49:43 PM

RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.


I tried to find the best deals I can when I post pc builds. Ex: The monitor I posted is slightly larger and has a great IPS display. It's also cheaper, so with the savings from the monitor you can get a decent pair of speakers to pair with it, which would be much better than any speakers built into a monitor.

If you have questions on any part of the build just ask.


How would your keyboard compare with mine? I don't care about the mouse, I already own one (R.A.T. 7)


Not much to compare here... it's a basic keyboard with red led back-lighting. If it's temporary you might as well pick up a cheap V7 keyboard or something similar off amazon for around seven bucks.


What about this for the power supply?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm going to need 500 watts if I'm going to upgrade the GPU, right?
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September 6, 2014 4:54:31 PM

Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.


I tried to find the best deals I can when I post pc builds. Ex: The monitor I posted is slightly larger and has a great IPS display. It's also cheaper, so with the savings from the monitor you can get a decent pair of speakers to pair with it, which would be much better than any speakers built into a monitor.

If you have questions on any part of the build just ask.


How would your keyboard compare with mine? I don't care about the mouse, I already own one (R.A.T. 7)


Not much to compare here... it's a basic keyboard with red led back-lighting. If it's temporary you might as well pick up a cheap V7 keyboard or something similar off amazon for around seven bucks.


What about this for the power supply?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm going to need 500 watts if I'm going to upgrade the GPU, right?


It's alight. 500W would do for a single graphics card, but it won't be enough for power hungry higher end cards like the R9 290x. If you wanted to sli the 760 ( add a second one later) I would go for a 750W PSU.
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September 6, 2014 4:59:50 PM

RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.


I tried to find the best deals I can when I post pc builds. Ex: The monitor I posted is slightly larger and has a great IPS display. It's also cheaper, so with the savings from the monitor you can get a decent pair of speakers to pair with it, which would be much better than any speakers built into a monitor.

If you have questions on any part of the build just ask.


How would your keyboard compare with mine? I don't care about the mouse, I already own one (R.A.T. 7)


Not much to compare here... it's a basic keyboard with red led back-lighting. If it's temporary you might as well pick up a cheap V7 keyboard or something similar off amazon for around seven bucks.


What about this for the power supply?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm going to need 500 watts if I'm going to upgrade the GPU, right?


It's alight. 500W would do for a single graphics card, but it won't be enough for power hungry higher end cards like the R9 290x. If you wanted to sli the 760 ( add a second one later) I would go for a 750W PSU.


Thanks. I know what sli and crossfire are, I don't think I'm going to do it. Does sli just double the graphics performance? And what is 12v rail? I have searched everywhere and I have no idea what 12v rail is. Also, What would be the best GeForce graphics card I could use with the 500 watt?
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September 6, 2014 5:05:12 PM

Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.


I tried to find the best deals I can when I post pc builds. Ex: The monitor I posted is slightly larger and has a great IPS display. It's also cheaper, so with the savings from the monitor you can get a decent pair of speakers to pair with it, which would be much better than any speakers built into a monitor.

If you have questions on any part of the build just ask.


How would your keyboard compare with mine? I don't care about the mouse, I already own one (R.A.T. 7)


Not much to compare here... it's a basic keyboard with red led back-lighting. If it's temporary you might as well pick up a cheap V7 keyboard or something similar off amazon for around seven bucks.


What about this for the power supply?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm going to need 500 watts if I'm going to upgrade the GPU, right?


It's alight. 500W would do for a single graphics card, but it won't be enough for power hungry higher end cards like the R9 290x. If you wanted to sli the 760 ( add a second one later) I would go for a 750W PSU.


Thanks. I know what sli and crossfire are, I don't think I'm going to do it. Does sli just double the graphics performance? And what is 12v rail? I have searched everywhere and I have no idea what 12v rail is. Also, What would be the best GeForce graphics card I could use with the 500 watt?


The 12V rail feeds the power to the CPU and GPU of your computer, which happen to be the most power hungry parts. That's why it's good to have a high amperage on your 12V rail.

You could run a GTX 780 with a 500W PSU, however if you plan on doing that I would use the PSU posted in my build just to be on the safe side.
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September 6, 2014 5:11:33 PM

RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
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Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($117.00 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Total: $861.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-06 18:57 EDT-0400

It should fit your budget. Tell me if it needs to be higher or lower, or if it's okay.

You could save some money if you can do with blue ray or wifi, and put that money saved into a better graphics card.


I haven't looked at the parts yet, but I know that I chose certain parts because of other features. For example, my monitor is LED 1920 by 1080, and has build in speakers. The keyboard is really that important, it will most likely be temporary anyway.


I tried to find the best deals I can when I post pc builds. Ex: The monitor I posted is slightly larger and has a great IPS display. It's also cheaper, so with the savings from the monitor you can get a decent pair of speakers to pair with it, which would be much better than any speakers built into a monitor.

If you have questions on any part of the build just ask.


How would your keyboard compare with mine? I don't care about the mouse, I already own one (R.A.T. 7)


Not much to compare here... it's a basic keyboard with red led back-lighting. If it's temporary you might as well pick up a cheap V7 keyboard or something similar off amazon for around seven bucks.


What about this for the power supply?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm going to need 500 watts if I'm going to upgrade the GPU, right?


It's alight. 500W would do for a single graphics card, but it won't be enough for power hungry higher end cards like the R9 290x. If you wanted to sli the 760 ( add a second one later) I would go for a 750W PSU.


Thanks. I know what sli and crossfire are, I don't think I'm going to do it. Does sli just double the graphics performance? And what is 12v rail? I have searched everywhere and I have no idea what 12v rail is. Also, What would be the best GeForce graphics card I could use with the 500 watt?


The 12V rail feeds the power to the CPU and GPU of your computer, which happen to be the most power hungry parts. That's why it's good to have a high amperage on your 12V rail.

You could run a GTX 780 with a 500W PSU, however if you plan on doing that I would use the PSU posted in my build just to be on the safe side.


Is 12v rail inside the PSU or is it a cable? How does your hard drive compare with mine? Also, your PSU is XFX. Is that a good brand? And also, all the websites on pcpartpicker.com are trusted, right? That might sound like a stupid question, but I just want to be sure. Plus, jimm answered this question but I want to be sure, the ram (the G.skill one), it says in the features section of it that it supports LGA 1155. My i5 is LGA 1150. Will it work or not?
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September 6, 2014 5:17:56 PM

Baklou said:

Is 12v rail inside the PSU or is it a cable? How does your hard drive compare with mine? Also, your PSU is XFX. Is that a good brand? And also, all the websites on pcpartpicker.com are trusted, right? That might sound like a stupid question, but I just want to be sure. Plus, jimm answered this question but I want to be sure, the ram (the G.skill one), it says in the features section of it that it supports LGA 1155. My i5 is LGA 1150. Will it work or not?


-The +12v rail is inside the PSU itself. It is what powers most of your system, so it's important that it has a lot of Amps.
-XFX is an extremely high quality PSU
-PcPartpicker sites are reliable
-The ram I suggested will work with 1150
-:pt1cable: 
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September 6, 2014 5:20:50 PM

Quote:
Thanks. I know what sli and crossfire are, I don't think I'm going to do it. Does sli just double the graphics performance? And what is 12v rail? I have searched everywhere and I have no idea what 12v rail is. Also, What would be the best GeForce graphics card I could use with the 500 watt?

The 12V rail feeds the power to the CPU and GPU of your computer, which happen to be the most power hungry parts. That's why it's good to have a high amperage on your 12V rail.

You could run a GTX 780 with a 500W PSU, however if you plan on doing that I would use the PSU posted in my build just to be on the safe side.
Is 12v rail inside the PSU or is it a cable? How does your hard drive compare with mine? Also, your PSU is XFX. Is that a good brand? And also, all the websites on pcpartpicker.com are trusted, right? That might sound like a stupid question, but I just want to be sure. Plus, jimm answered this question but I want to be sure, the ram (the G.skill one), it says in the features section of it that it supports LGA 1155. My i5 is LGA 1150. Will it work or not?


- A rail is another term for a voltage regulator found inside the psu.
- Yes XFX is a good brand, it's manufactured by Seasonic, which uses good parts in their PSUs.
- All the website on pcpartpicker are trusted
- Yes the G.Skill ram will work with the LGA 1150 motherboard. As I said before it will work with any modern motherboard that can support DDR3 ram. The chipset does not matter.

edit: jim beat me to it :lol: 
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September 6, 2014 7:45:17 PM

I'm not sure if you guys will get a notification that a posted this, but...Can someone tell me if I'm correct? These are the PSU connectors:
ATX- The 24 or 20 pin connector that goes in the motherboard.
PCI-E- The cable that power things in the PCIe slits, like graphics cards.
4-Pin Peripheral- Used for a lot of things, I would use these to power the fans in my case.
SATA- The power, not data, cable for the hard drive
Floppy- Old cable I won't use, I have no idea what it does though.Can someone explain?
EPS- I saw this in the PSU description. What is this?

Also, for an SSD-HDD combination, the SSD would be used for the operating system and maybe games? The hard drive is for normal things that I wouldn't need extra speed for, basically. Then I would need to do partitioning when I boot(I think), and I'm not sure how to...But would it be worth it to have an SSD and HDD? How my=uch more would it cost?

And if there are any good parts that are lightweight, like a computer case, it would be awesome if someone could put a link to them. But if it's a case, it has to have build in fans that would be good enough to cool the computer. This is because it would cost more for something I could get at a cheaper price, and I know how to install every part, except for an additional fan.

EDIT: Also, what is the difference between a normal hard drive and a bare drive? I read somewhere that the bare drive doesn't come with the necessary cables. And box. Is that true?
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September 6, 2014 8:02:48 PM

Everything you need to know about power cables: http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors....

You're spot on with your cable descriptions, and for the eps see the link above ^

You don't need to partition an SSD drive, you just use it as your boot drive and use it to hold a few programs since they come in relatively small sizes. An SSD is used to reduce loading times for programs and for windows boot up. The cost of the SSD depends on the size you buy, but you can get a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO for ~$87.

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September 6, 2014 8:11:25 PM

RazerZ said:
Everything you need to know about power cables: http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors....

You're spot on with your cable descriptions, and for the eps see the link above ^

You don't need to partition an SSD drive, you just use it as your boot drive and use it to hold a few programs since they come in relatively small sizes. An SSD is used to reduce loading times for programs and for windows boot up. The cost of the SSD depends on the size you buy, but you can get a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO for ~$87.



An SSD is 2.5 inches, so I will need a bay converter from 3.5 to 2.5, right?
BTW, I added a question to the text you just replied to.
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September 6, 2014 8:29:35 PM

RazerZ said:
Everything you need to know about power cables: http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors....

You're spot on with your cable descriptions, and for the eps see the link above ^

You don't need to partition an SSD drive, you just use it as your boot drive and use it to hold a few programs since they come in relatively small sizes. An SSD is used to reduce loading times for programs and for windows boot up. The cost of the SSD depends on the size you buy, but you can get a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO for ~$87.



So ATX is the 4 pin cable, and EPS is the 8 pins cable. These cables are the ones that plug next to the CPU, right? I'm not sure if they power it. And which one do you use and what determines what type of slot you have on the motherboard? I already know about the website you mentioned btw, I just didn't know that cable was called an eps cable.
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September 6, 2014 8:56:40 PM

Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Everything you need to know about power cables: http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors....

You're spot on with your cable descriptions, and for the eps see the link above ^

You don't need to partition an SSD drive, you just use it as your boot drive and use it to hold a few programs since they come in relatively small sizes. An SSD is used to reduce loading times for programs and for windows boot up. The cost of the SSD depends on the size you buy, but you can get a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO for ~$87.



An SSD is 2.5 inches, so I will need a bay converter from 3.5 to 2.5, right?
BTW, I added a question to the text you just replied to.


If you want, or you could just slide it in at the last drive bay on the bottom.

I wouldn't worry about the bare drive vs normal drives. Either way, you won't find the necessary cable in either one. Your motherboard should come with a couple of SATA cables for your hard drive and SSD.
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September 6, 2014 9:01:56 PM

Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Everything you need to know about power cables: http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors....

You're spot on with your cable descriptions, and for the eps see the link above ^

You don't need to partition an SSD drive, you just use it as your boot drive and use it to hold a few programs since they come in relatively small sizes. An SSD is used to reduce loading times for programs and for windows boot up. The cost of the SSD depends on the size you buy, but you can get a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO for ~$87.



So ATX is the 4 pin cable, and EPS is the 8 pins cable. These cables are the ones that plug next to the CPU, right? I'm not sure if they power it. And which one do you use and what determines what type of slot you have on the motherboard? I already know about the website you mentioned btw, I just didn't know that cable was called an eps cable.


Sure. It's getting late here so I'm going to be lazy and copy/paste from the website I listed, this is for the 4 pin ATX cable:

Quote:
The power coming from this connector is usually used to power the CPU but some motherboards use it for other things as well. The presense of this connector on a motherboard means it's an ATX12V motherboard.

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September 6, 2014 9:05:44 PM

RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
RazerZ said:
Everything you need to know about power cables: http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors....

You're spot on with your cable descriptions, and for the eps see the link above ^

You don't need to partition an SSD drive, you just use it as your boot drive and use it to hold a few programs since they come in relatively small sizes. An SSD is used to reduce loading times for programs and for windows boot up. The cost of the SSD depends on the size you buy, but you can get a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO for ~$87.



So ATX is the 4 pin cable, and EPS is the 8 pins cable. These cables are the ones that plug next to the CPU, right? I'm not sure if they power it. And which one do you use and what determines what type of slot you have on the motherboard? I already know about the website you mentioned btw, I just didn't know that cable was called an eps cable.


Sure. It's getting late here so I'm going to be lazy and copy/paste from the website I listed, this is for the 4 pin ATX cable:

Quote:
The power coming from this connector is usually used to power the CPU but some motherboards use it for other things as well. The presense of this connector on a motherboard means it's an ATX12V motherboard.



New link is http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TznHpg
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September 6, 2014 9:37:14 PM

The build I posted will let you play at higher settings and it's cheaper...
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September 7, 2014 7:29:35 AM

RazerZ said:
The build I posted will let you play at higher settings and it's cheaper...


I kind of want the computer to be as portable as possible, so if the SSD is at the bottom it would slide around. I would personally get like a 32 gb SSD is they sell that kind just for the operating system. Games and programs would go on the 1 tb hard drive. Basically, if I install Windows on the SSD, the HDD is automatically running it also because they are running on the same computer? Or would the second one just store the programs that you open up through the operating system though another computer drive thing when you open up My Computer? I'm kind of confused about that. I'm also confused about what is says on the Windows 8.1 description. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Win... I think is says something like "you need Windows 7 installed to use this". Kind of like that is an upgrade disk from Windows 7 to 8. If so, where can I find one that would install the operating system on an empty drive?

Also, since I will need a better graphics card, which of these would be better?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

One is the best 760 and the other is the worst 770. The 760 has 4GB and the 770 has 2GB, but there are more differences on the websites.
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September 13, 2014 7:51:37 PM

Has everyone give. Up on the thread? Please help I still need help.
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September 13, 2014 7:56:52 PM

Baklou said:
Has everyone give. Up on the thread? Please help I still need help.


Nope I'm still here. You might want to open a new thread asking for a lightweight case, because in that area I can't help you.

The link you have is for the Win 8 upgrade, just buy the disk from a site such as newegg.

The GTX 770 would be better, but if you want good portability go for this card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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September 13, 2014 8:42:28 PM

RazerZ said:
Baklou said:
Has everyone give. Up on the thread? Please help I still need help.


Nope I'm still here. You might want to open a new thread asking for a lightweight case, because in that area I can't help you.

The link you have is for the Win 8 upgrade, just buy the disk from a site such as newegg.

The GTX 770 would be better, but if you want good portability go for this card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



What do you mean by a portable graphics card?
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September 13, 2014 9:34:54 PM

Also, the new link is http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FFDQwP. I had to make the PSU 600 watts again for the graphics card. I also added windows 8.1 but I'm not sure if it's the right one.
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September 13, 2014 9:40:21 PM

If you want portability you'll want an ITX build. The card I posted is a miniature 760 meant for such builds.
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September 13, 2014 11:00:12 PM

RazerZ said:
If you want portability you'll want an ITX build. The card I posted is a miniature 760 meant for such builds.


Oh, than no I don't want it that small. New link is http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Baklou/saved/HvzhP6. I think the link can now be considered final, if there is anything I don't have to change. Also, is my cooling good enough for, lets say, modern full screen gaming? There are I think 3 120mm fans.
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September 13, 2014 11:13:33 PM

I'm confused. You said you wanted it to be as portable as possible but you have a mid tower for the case...

So I'm guessing by portable you just want to be able to move it like a heavy box?
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September 15, 2014 6:21:58 PM

RazerZ said:
I'm confused. You said you wanted it to be as portable as possible but you have a mid tower for the case...

So I'm guessing by portable you just want to be able to move it like a heavy box?


Basically, I would like to be able to move it to, lets say to my friends house so we could have something like a lan party. This wont be often though, but i would want it to be a little convenient. I want it to be able to be upgraded easily in the future, though.
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September 15, 2014 6:52:38 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($219.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $858.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-15 21:51 EDT-0400

The bitfenix prodigy should be a good fit since it has a handle on the top, and mITX is good for portable builds.
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September 15, 2014 9:03:13 PM

RazerZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($219.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $858.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-15 21:51 EDT-0400

The bitfenix prodigy should be a good fit since it has a handle on the top, and mITX is good for portable builds.


I would prefer ATX. I don't mind a little extra weight as long as its easy to carry around.
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