Screen remains blank until desktop - Ferrari 4000

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First a huge THANK YOU to Thomas Pabst, those who continue running the site and all other contributors. Tom's Hardware has been an invaluable resource for nearly 2 decades (yeah I had the book too). I never had to ask as everything I wanted to know had been asked and answered - until now. So I've finally joined and here's my first post. Thanks for reading.

I'm not sure if this is the correct category. As it's BIOS related, I figured motherboards is the closest.

I have an Acer Ferrari 4000 running XP which I want to replace with Linux. I know I can do this via USB as I have done it before.

To do this I need to boot with the USB stick plugged in, enter the BIOS, add USB stick to the boot devices... .

The problem is that I cannot see anything on screen until the XP desktop appears - no POST, no Windows animation. I can however enter the BIOS and change settings. Which is fine when I know the menu structure (pressing arrow keys etc. a certain number of times to navigate and set).

I can even call the boot menu and select something - but as with the BIOS, the screen stays blank.

However I need to see the BIOS to add the USB stick.

I have tried with/without battery, with one and two external monitors. No matter what combination of screens, none display anything until the XP desktop appears.

Blindly navigating the BIOS to select DVD to boot is doable, but the internal DVD drive is no longer good(reads very few disks like the recovery CDs)

Booting from USB is not documented in the manual, so I cannot guess the key combination I would have to press to add the USB stick.

My thread on the Acer forum died. I'm offering a pint (or two) to anyone who can help me solve this and is or will be on holiday (or living) in Malta.
 

ksarex

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USB booting is probably not supported by your laptop mobo... The easiest way to do this is to take out your hdd and install the Linux distro you want using another pc. Taking out the hard drive is easy, and if it is a sata device you wont have any problem using any pc to install the OS. Then you can reconnect the drive back. The alternative is to buy a new DVD/CD drive(not necessarily original, they are pretty cheap) and use a live cd to install the OS.
 

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Thanks for your posts.

As mentioned in my first post: Installing Linux via bootable USB device on this laptop is something I have done before - when I could still see the BIOS.

Re. replacing the DVD drive: Cheap is relative and price depends on which part of the world you live in. In Malta(I sort of mentioned that I live here in my first post too) it is always cheaper to purchase electronic items online and shipping to Malta is generally not cheap. That said, I have items with a higher priority than a new DVD drive for the laptop on my 'to buy' hardware list.
 

ksarex

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Sorry for not noticing that in your first post. If you want to do it with your laptop, you will have to enter bios and the USB option will probably be in an expandable list when you choose hdd as first boot device pressing enter. Then you will to press down and then enter again to choose the 2nd option which will probably be the USB device. https://archive.org/stream/service-manual-acer-ferrari-4000#page/n59/mode/2up

So after entering the bios the sequence i would try first would be:
right, right, right, right , enter, down, enter, F10, enter
 

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Thanks. I have tried that before but could not find the correct combination of keys to be pressed. And therein lies the problem. I do have the service manual. Though boot from external USB is not documented anywhere. I could also not find any screenshots, only text instructions from others who have done it "Go there... select this....", which is fine when I can see where I am navigating to. But those were also very old, so I have not tried getting in touch with the people who wrote it.

Guess the only thing left is to write list of key combinations that could make sense and go through them one by one. Like a brute force password hack. I did try it before but gave up after miscounting the key strokes a few times, thus not following the sequence... .

EDIT: fixed segmented sentence in first paragraph.
 

ksarex

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Well, it will be difficult. But first write down the combination you will be using and cross them out one by one. The sequence i posted before is probably wrong as this is a priority list. After choosing an element you will have to move it up so that it becomes first in order.
 

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Thanks for all you input ksarex.

Like I said, done that too. It is very tedious and one miscount and that's it. I did multiple runs. But all I managed was to not boot from the internal HDD. I even tried different USB sticks... then there's also the boot menu(not the one in the BIOS, but after POST) I need to navigate through after making the correct setting in the BIOS.

So I essentially have to separate sections for which I need to find the correct combination of keys that work together and reboot each time after making one change.

EDIT: removed text saying I'm giving up. Added thanks