Upgraded to 144 hz, but still looks like 60 hz in-game

zomg_gamer · Sep 7, 2014

Hi,

I bought an Asus vg248qe a few days ago. I set it up, but when I try LoL or DotA 2 they both look like playing on my old 60 hz monitor and I'm not exactly sure why.

Details:

1. The monitor is connected via DVI-D dual link to my Nvidia Geforce GTX 750 ti.
2. Under Screen Resolution>Advanced Settings>Monitors I have the refresh rate set to 144 hz.
3. I'm running Windows 8.1 (I'm not sure if this is an issue or not)
4. My FPS in LoL is 200+ FPS and in DotA 2 120+ FPS, so my FPS is not the issue (running full-screen mode with v-sync off)
5. My Nvidia global settings
http://puu.sh/bpH1d/591e84379b.png
http://puu.sh/bpH1M/35433217c6.png
6. My Nvidia display settings
http://puu.sh/bpHbE/15c84674cf.png
7. The installation CD that came with the monitor is giving me errors
http://puu.sh/bpHtE/d455dfed26.jpg
I think this last point might be what's causing issues, but I'm not certain because I'd be downgrading from my current version (335.23) to 331.82.

I don't think I missed any other details other than that. Any ideas why in games it still looks like 60 hz? I was told that going from 60 hz to 144 hz would be a noticeable difference in terms of smoothness, but I haven't noticed anything at all.

Trenchcoat · Sep 7, 2014

Both of those games are limited to ensure a level playing field.

Matthew-san · Sep 7, 2014

I have not played either of those games but what Trenchcoat says may be true. I have known several games to be locked to 60 Hz. Try playing other games and see if you notice a difference in frame rates. I also made the upgrade from 60 Hz to 144 Hz and noticed a vast improvement in image quality when running above 60.

zomg_gamer · Sep 8, 2014

Well I just tried CS:GO and Osu! but if there was supposed to be any noticeable difference I didn't see any when I switch the screen's refresh rate from 60 hz to 144 hz.

pm4 · Sep 8, 2014

Well reason why you don't see difference because there really is not noticeable difference.

Unless game is some fast pace action (imagine some action movie and really top speed with explosions all around, bullets, shrapnels, ...) you won't see real difference. Other thing is that most people are not used/trained to notice that difference on conscious level (wont talk about subcouncious level). People like pro gamers or combat pilots with top reflexes may see difference. Many other will tell you that there is difference because they wont admit that their new 144 Hz monitor looks same as old 60Hz.

Games like Lol or Dota are actually slow in comparison with that so you wont really see any difference because there is nothing to see even if you would have reflexes fast enough to see that difference.

Matthew-san · Sep 8, 2014

pm4 is absolutely wrong. I am no pro gamer or combat pilot but there is a ginormous difference between 60 and 144. Not the same as going from 30 to 60 but there is definitely a difference. I did not want to seem rude so I did not mention before that your 750 Ti is probably incapable of running most games at 144 Hz on high settings unless they are not graphically demanding. If you had a higher-end card then you would be better off with a 144 Hz monitor but with a 750 Ti you should have stuck with 60 Hz.

Kari · Sep 8, 2014

pm4 :

lol right, even the windows' desktop will look a lot smoother on a 144Hz monitor. It is quite easy to see if you have both 144 and 60Hz monitors side by side and wave a window in the middle... or should be at least.

Matthew-san · Sep 8, 2014

I agree completely with Kari. Perhaps it is more difficult for some people to tell a difference but that would just come down to eyesight. I imagine that in zomg_gamer's case it is because they are using a 750 Ti incapable of producing 144 Hz at High-Ultra settings and the games they play are not made to function at that speed anyways.

zomg_gamer · Sep 8, 2014

Matthew-san :

Actually those FPS I list are at max settings for LoL and DotA 2. My GPU isn't my limiting factor (though I guess it's not fair to call you out on that since you don't know what my entire rig is). My CPU is my limiting factor when it comes to my FPS, but even then it's sufficient to maintain the values aforementioned. I did notice that my desktop usage was slightly more fluid, but that's about it. Everything else looked the same.

Anyways I did talk to several other people about this and it's possible that either
A) My eyes aren't as sensitive to the differences
B) I'm playing moba games which aren't fast-paced enough to benefit from 144 hz

I figured out later that I forgot to update my monitor's drivers, but that didn't do anything anyways. I'm still oblivious to what the cause may be as to why I don't notice a difference, but perhaps it is my rig after all (though I doubt it since my FPS is above the 144 hz rate for LoL and high enough that I should've seen a difference for DotA 2). Anyways I'm returning it tomorrow and picking up a U2412M from my nearby tech store.

TECHLY · Nov 29, 2014

You forgot one major thing, as windows by default changes the monitor display refresh rate to 60hz. I got a 144hz monitor and I was unsure what was happening too, until I looked up that windows does this. To change this:

1. Right click the desktop and select Screen Resolution
2. On the page, find the advanced settings button and click it
3. Go to the monitor tab and change refesh rate to 144hz
4. You will notice a really big difference from what you had before

jgskpx0389 · Nov 29, 2014

I'm no expert on this but I do play LoL

and yes will notice between 60 and 144 I have 2 monitor with those 2 refresh rates and even in LoL you can tell the difference

maybe your eyes just aren't sensitive

Alexkaneaster · Nov 29, 2014

There is a big and noticeable difference between 60 fps and 120/144 fps. Hands down, no doubt. I'm sorry if you have never experience this, or you're just a really stubborn person, but it's true. Make sure your monitor is actually set at 144 hz. For me its right click, screen resolution, advanced settings, there I can select the refresh rate. A 144 hz monitor can be set at 60 hz, 100 hz, 120 hz...etc. Also, a lot of games are unfortunately capped at 60 fps by the game engine, no way around it. It's completely ridiculous for pc games to still be this way, but there it is. Make sure the game you're playing can actually be set above 60 fps. I'm all for people having an opinion, but those saying there's no difference are flat out wrong.

ccampy · Nov 29, 2014

Most of the 144 hz owners would not tell the difference if you put a 60 and 144 panel size by side if they didn't know what was what's and they had identical contrast ect

Alexkaneaster · Nov 29, 2014

ccampy :

Where do you get than info? A source would be nice. There's an obvious and immediate difference between those two refresh rates. I actually have experience. I've seen the difference. I'm telling you there's a difference. Bring all the people in here that can't tell the difference and let's talk.

RobCrezz · Nov 29, 2014

In lol and dota you wont notice the difference at all. Fast FPS games yes, scrolling mobas, no.

Matthew-san · Nov 29, 2014

There is a huge difference between 60 Hz and 144 Hz. Some people may not be able to tell that's a huge difference but they should at least be able to notice some change from 60 to 144. I know from experience because I upgraded from a 60 Hz monitor to a 144 Hz and it made a world of difference. My brother plays some of the same games on his PS4 that I play on my PC and he's always surprised to see the higher frame rates on my PC. Tomb Raider was a great example because he played it on his PS4 at 60 fps and I played it on my PC averaging 70-100 fps (sometimes higher e.g. caves) and the smoother image was usually the first thing he noticed when he started playing it on my PC. I really just think some people aren't able to process the higher frames. I have a friend who plays on old gen consoles at 30 fps and lower and when he plays on my PC he can hardly tell a difference.

Lowie1771 · Nov 29, 2014

you can use this website to test if you are actually using this refresh rate:

http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates

You will not notice a difference in most games without high movement speeds, because the difference simply is not that noticeable. I have this monitor. I use HDMI at 60hz, even though it goes higher, because I prefer the color clarity over the high refresh rate. The low response time of 1ms stays consistent, which makes this a good purchase regardless.

bystander · Nov 30, 2014

Some games require you to set the refresh rate in the game (rare). Some require you to set it up in an .ini (rare). I've ran into some games which still didn't go into 120+hz, unless I start in 3D Vision mode, then turn it off after I get in game.

Make sure you are actually in 120hz-144hz mode. When ever I see lots of tearing, or choppy game play with V-sync on, I check my monitors OSD menu and see if I'm actually in 120hz mode, and it never is, if I experience bad tearing or choppy play.

bishopi5 · Nov 30, 2014

ccampy :

AHAHAHAHHA you're insane, 120+ is SO much better then 60hz in EVERYTHIG that supports it. I cannot believe you just said that, i can even notice my mouse moving much more laggy on my 2nd screen (60hz)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=928VyYQxKKo

RobCrezz · Nov 30, 2014

bishopi5 :

Depends entirely on the game though, slow moving mobas its barely noticble, tried my self testing at 60/96/120 hz/fps

bishopi5 · Nov 30, 2014

I have no idea why you would buy a low response 144hz monitor for slow moving RPG"s, but yes you're right, if it wasn't screen tearing, the different would barely be noticable on those games... But these monitors are build for FPS, and makes a drastic improvement

bystander · Nov 30, 2014

I find it nice on many RPG's. Mostly the first person view sort, and hack and slashes. Turn based RPG's don't really see much of a difference. It's not as much the visuals, but the responsiveness you gain with your mouse. Though if there is panning, which many hack and slashes have, that will definitely show a difference. Panning your view in 1st person is also quite noticeable. Still, it's the responsiveness with a mouse that really shines.

RobCrezz · Dec 1, 2014

bishopi5 :

I agree. Just saying that because they are the games that he is saying he cannot see a difference on.

armouredgriffon · Feb 26, 2015

Are you using the DVI cable? You need to use the right cable to get 144Hz output.

Windrunner · Apr 29, 2017

Dota 2 works in same refresh rate as your desktop,you dont need any launch commands. Set your desktop to 75Hz etc,Dota will work at 75Hz. And yes,the difference between 60 and 75 is BIG! Also,i suggest same resolution in Dota,as on desktop.

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