5th Generation Intel processors release date and should I wait for it?

I am looking to get a nice "future proof" 2-in-1 laptop with a 4th Gen i7 (min. 2.2 ghz) and atleast 8 gb DDR3 SDRAM but we are 4 months away from 2015 so should I wait for the 5th generation processors? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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  1. Sure, wait. Then when they announce the 5th generation, they're already a long way on the road to the 6th generation, so maybe you should wait for that.

    If you need it now, buy it now. THe difference will only be maybe 10% at best. Intel is under no pressure to make huge leaps in performance.
  2. There is not point in waiting, theres always something better just around the corner
  3. aerial_ace said:
    There is not point in waiting, theres always something better just around the corner


    correct. So it's up to you.

    1. How badly do you need it.
    2. Do you have enough funds.

    if 1 is yes and 2 is no, then buy it now, but if it's vise versa then wait. If both are the same answer, then figure out which one has the most importance.

    My 2 cents. :)
  4. It'll be at least 7 months before they come out which is too long if you need a pc. I'd only say like a month max for anyone even thinking of waiting.
  5. If you don't need it right now, wait. Although it is expected to only offer a ~5% performance boost, the difference in power consumption and heat handling is expected to be huge. I'd say that's pretty useless for a desktop, however quite important for a laptop, if you're out often and want long battery life.
  6. I would say wait as they will have a huge improvement in battery life which is why you bought it. The performance gain may not be that much but the heat dissipation will be good.
  7. But then you'll have to ask 'should I wait for skylake' which is out soon after!
  8. con635 said:
    But then you'll have to ask 'should I wait for skylake' which is out soon after!


    Well that is true too, but how badly do you need the 5 gen processors? If you need the battery life and the portability then wait as it will help but like you said new cpu;s get released one after another so its really up to you how long you want to play the waiting game.
  9. Thanks guys for your advice. I juat needed to know if the 5th gen is just about to be released cuz i dont want to buy a 2 in 1 and then a 5 th gen comes oit . So i guess ill buy it now.
    Thanks once again!
  10. Hi,
    I have a similar question about the waiting game, so I don't want to create a new thread. Is the "waiting" vs. "buying" trade-off still the same for high-performance laptop applications (e.g., graduate school in statistics, geo-stats, parallel processing and multi-GB datasets)? It seems like the 5th gen innovations are mostly for ultrathin and fanless applications, which means that I should buy 4th gen now (will it even be possible to go fanless if you are doing multi-day computations and parallel processing?). On the other hand, the just-released DDR4 seems to be a significant innovation that will be very important to users of large datasets; so geo-stats/big-data users like me should probably wait until late 2015 or early 2016 for a >$1300 higher-end purchase?
  11. faraway1nspace said:
    Hi,
    I have a similar question about the waiting game, so I don't want to create a new thread. Is the "waiting" vs. "buying" trade-off still the same for high-performance laptop applications (e.g., graduate school in statistics, geo-stats, parallel processing and multi-GB datasets)? It seems like the 5th gen innovations are mostly for ultrathin and fanless applications, which means that I should buy 4th gen now (will it even be possible to go fanless if you are doing multi-day computations and parallel processing?). On the other hand, the just-released DDR4 seems to be a significant innovation that will be very important to users of large datasets; so geo-stats/big-data users like me should probably wait until late 2015 or early 2016 for a >$1300 higher-end purchase?



    I would say it applies to you as well as the new type of ram will make the cpu be able to do more processes at once. Plus the increase in cpu will help speed up the calculations.
  12. faraway1nspace said:
    Hi,
    I have a similar question about the waiting game, so I don't want to create a new thread. Is the "waiting" vs. "buying" trade-off still the same for high-performance laptop applications (e.g., graduate school in statistics, geo-stats, parallel processing and multi-GB datasets)?


    Basic question - When do you need to start using it?
  13. For the original question, regarding "future proof" computers, I think you should wait untile DDR4 and make sure you have 2-3 RAM slots.

    @USAFRet -- I needed it yesterday, sadly. I think I will have to buy a cheap "get me through the next 1/2 years" replacement. DDR4 seems worth the wait for mid/high end purchases.

    velo3100 said:
    I would say it applies to you as well as the new type of ram will make the cpu be able to do more processes at once. Plus the increase in cpu will help speed up the calculations.


    I'm very curious about DDR4 and statements like "3.2 billion transfers per second, which is twice the transfer speed of DDR3." According to:digital trends. I wonder if such DDR4 improvements will be realized in early releases of 5th generation intel laptops, or if there will be other limiting factors. I may have to wait more than 1.5 years to get a the equivalent of a Haswell i7 for <$2000. Anyway, I think I'll gamble on the wait.
  14. Quote:
    @USAFRet -- I needed it yesterday, sadly. I think I will have to buy a cheap "get me through the next 1/2 years" replacement. DDR4 seems worth the wait for mid/high end purchases.

    Do you want to gamble your graduate studies on a "get me through" laptop for 2 years?

    Is the $500-$1000 you save today on a cheapo worth the reduced performance at a critical time in your life?
  15. Ram may have more bandwidth but it's not the bottleneck in most cases. Getting faster ddr3 wasn't a big deal so why should getting ddr4 be either? Look at the performance increases from sbe>ibe>hwe. There's next to nothing from gaining ddr4. Broadwell nor skylake will have much improvement in performance compared to previous gens. So what is there to wait for?
  16. A cool name. Skylake simply sounds better than Haswell. ;)
  17. For me why wait?
    1. If desktop. Maximum time the system to be obsolete is 3 years. That if you considered to be a geek frenzy. If not you still can use the 5 years old system with no hassle.

    2. If Laptop. The longest time u can use a laptop is 3 years. After that it will start problem eg: Screen blurr, overheating, BAttery will be out before 2 years, Hdisk faulty, mobo faulty and keyboard max at 2 years.

    So if the waiting time is 1.5 - 2 years, why wait? just buy today tech and change later after 2-3 years.
    Waiting can only be considered if the product already been released officially thus it take at most 3 month to hit market.
    This is my humble opinion. Buy now and buy another in 2 years. You can always save 100 bucks/month and in 2 years there another 2400 to use hehehee..
  18. yusripp said:
    For me why wait?
    1. If desktop. Maximum time the system to be obsolete is 3 years. That if you considered to be a geek frenzy. If not you still can use the 5 years old system with no hassle.

    2. If Laptop. The longest time u can use a laptop is 3 years. After that it will start problem eg: Screen blurr, overheating, BAttery will be out before 2 years, Hdisk faulty, mobo faulty and keyboard max at 2 years.

    So if the waiting time is 1.5 - 2 years, why wait? just buy today tech and change later after 2-3 years.
    Waiting can only be considered if the product already been released officially thus it take at most 3 month to hit market.
    This is my humble opinion. Buy now and buy another in 2 years. You can always save 100 bucks/month and in 2 years there another 2400 to use hehehee..


    I've actually had this very same Lenovo z570 for about 3-4 years now. I can safely say that I've yet to experience any of those examples you've listed. Maybe you're referring to a lower-end laptop or manufacturer?
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