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September 8, 2014 6:19:09 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rCXHpg

I want to keep the motherboard/cpu/ram combo but if anyone can trim some fat it would be appreciated. i'd like either more bang for my bucks or a cheaper bang.

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September 8, 2014 6:34:47 AM

Do you really need that i7? You said you want that combo, just making sure you really need it. Even a cheaper i7 would be a good idea. Might not be 6C/12T and only 4C/8T, but it can shave off $100. Cheaper ram is next on my list. 16GBs of DDR3-2400? 1866/2100 should be cheaper. And if this is a gaming rig then 8GBs is still fine. And now the GPUs....

I wasn't sure what this was for, but if you have 3GPUs then you are either building a render farm (and they might make sense) or you are building a gaming machine. Then you should get only two of them, and you should drop the CPU down to the i5 level. Base i7 like I mentioned above. You don't need that much CPU power for gaming. I'm not sure what card Nvidia has around $500 each so that you are still spending about the same, but seeing as these are only the GTX770, I would get two 290s or two 290X cards. I don't know if you can get two 780TIs, but two 780s and pocket the difference is a good idea as well.
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September 8, 2014 6:37:04 AM

do you game? or do you use it as workstation?
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September 8, 2014 6:39:04 AM

3 way sli is doing it wrong on that CPU because of the amount of PCI-e lanes it is capable at running full speed.
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September 8, 2014 6:39:45 AM

I like it!
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September 8, 2014 6:43:06 AM

Emdea22, can it do three way SLI? I know Nvidia has requirements for the boards and if the lanes are far enough off from each other then you can't use SLI. I didn't even look at the board, but the OP might want to check for 3 way SLI compatibility before buying. (Not that I would ever go over 2 way CF/SLI.)
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September 8, 2014 6:46:08 AM

Considering you only have 24 pcie lanes this is at the same performance only lower price.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34sLpg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34sLpg/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Mwave)
Thermal Compound: Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste ($10.48 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($228.79 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($102.92 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($102.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N600 Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($183.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($264.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: BitFenix BFF-SPRO-P14025KK-RP 122.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.83 @ NCIX US)
Speakers: Creative Labs Inspire T6160 50W 5.1ch Speakers ($84.44 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2523.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-08 09:45 EDT-0400
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September 8, 2014 6:47:24 AM

4745454b said:
Emdea22, can it do three way SLI? I know Nvidia has requirements for the boards and if the lanes are far enough off from each other then you can't use SLI. I didn't even look at the board, but the OP might want to check for 3 way SLI compatibility before buying. (Not that I would ever go over 2 way CF/SLI.)


The 5820 is locked to 28 pci-e lanes on the controller. Only the other haswell-e CPUs have the full 40 lane...


edit:28 not 24
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September 8, 2014 7:03:21 AM

To answer your original question, I sincerely think that this rig is overkill.
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September 8, 2014 7:26:26 AM

I agree with Deathraider. This rig is EXTREMELY overkill for gaming anything you'll do with it.
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September 8, 2014 3:09:34 PM

2 way SLI 780's and a bigger SSD is what you should be looking at. 3 way 770 is a bit of a waste as previously mentioned
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September 9, 2014 7:54:53 AM

it is 3way sli capable. it is a gaming rig, and a bit overkill but that was deliberate. i want a rig that will remain capable (and a little overkill) for a few years.

let's try this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/dweb692/saved/7h4Ycf
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September 9, 2014 8:00:31 AM

Do you really need 8GB of graphics memory?
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September 9, 2014 8:27:52 AM

Anonymous said:
Do you really need 8GB of graphics memory?


I don't know enough to answer that question accurately. This is my first build. I've never had anything but crap, second hand computers. i know i can get a build a better one than i can buy for the money.
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September 9, 2014 11:15:50 AM

the ssd is just for the os. i got a 3TB hard drive for storage. How come crossfire can only use 4 gigs?
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September 9, 2014 11:23:40 AM

Fair enough but it makes for slow loading which sucks and for 20 dollars more you can double the ssd storage.

CF/SLI both gpu's act as one and as such they share the same memory from only one of the cards. On that note all the dual gpu cards are the same, they could have 8GB of memory only 4 is used as it is 4GB per gpu.
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September 9, 2014 11:24:18 AM

Made some changes to your latest overkill build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler ($73.95 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste ($10.48 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($233.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($102.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($414.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($414.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($126.39 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($264.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: BitFenix BFF-SPRO-P14025KK-RP 122.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.69 @ NCIX US)
Speakers: Creative Labs Inspire T6160 50W 5.1ch Speakers ($84.44 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2698.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-09 14:24 EDT-0400
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September 12, 2014 6:24:11 AM



Only change I would, for sure make, would be the power supply, to a 1000w Rosewill Capstone. It costs less and is a better PSU. @ 800w, with a system rated @755, you are cutting it a bit too close. You attempt any overclock, and you might just go over that 800w mark.
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September 12, 2014 6:26:51 AM

logainofhades said:


Only change I would, for sure make, would be the power supply, to a 1000w Rosewill Capstone. It costs less and is a better PSU. @ 800w, with a system rated @755, you are cutting it a bit too close. You attempt any overclock, and you might just go over that 800w mark.


is there a commonly used wattage buffer percentage, or is it an educated guess based off experience?
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September 12, 2014 6:28:26 AM

You are gonna want the original 4x4 memory setup you chose in the first build as the platform (2011-3) is actually a 4 channel memory platform. It will be faster using 4 sticks than two despite the speed of the ram. The only other option is to get 32 gigs and that is overkill for everything but a serious workstation.
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September 12, 2014 6:29:53 AM

I prefer at least a 100w buffer, or more, for overclocking. Also, as power supplies age, they do lose a bit of their max output. 45w is a pretty small buffer. Capstone series PSU's are top notch also.
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September 12, 2014 6:32:11 AM

spentshells said:
You are gonna want the original 4x4 memory setup you chose in the first build as the platform (2011-3) is actually a 4 channel memory platform. It will be faster using 4 sticks than two despite the speed of the ram. The only other option is to get 32 gigs and that is overkill for everything but a serious workstation.


Good catch. They could do a 4x4gb kit for quad channel.
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September 12, 2014 6:32:22 AM

Yeah I didn't see that, get a better power supply. This is a situation where 1000 watts starts to look reasonable.
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September 12, 2014 8:48:01 AM

spentshells said:
You are gonna want the original 4x4 memory setup you chose in the first build as the platform (2011-3) is actually a 4 channel memory platform. It will be faster using 4 sticks than two despite the speed of the ram. The only other option is to get 32 gigs and that is overkill for everything but a serious workstation.


http://pcpartpicker.com/user/dweb692/saved/7h4Ycf

went back to 4x4; upgraded power supply

Does it matter that the motherboard has 8 slots for memory?
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September 12, 2014 9:17:41 AM

should i consider liquid cooling for this or will air work?
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September 12, 2014 9:42:14 AM

air is fine, liquid cooling is something to read up on. With the shriking of the chips cpu and gpu liquid cooling is losing some of its edge.
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September 12, 2014 9:56:25 AM

dweb692 said:
should i consider liquid cooling for this or will air work?


I would probably go with an H100i or a coolermaster Seidon 240m.
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September 12, 2014 10:13:42 AM

I just want to point out that unless you want to be hooked up to two 4k monitors or something, a $1500 build will definitely run games at high or ultra for the next few years.

Edit: and if you're going to pay 2500 for a computer system, get a better case. That one looks really bad. Get something from nzxt or corsair.
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September 12, 2014 12:48:10 PM

I would not buy the extra case fans right now. Your new case is nice and it already comes with 4 fans. More fans = more noise and when you already have 4 it should be more than enough.
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September 12, 2014 1:03:33 PM

Well, you might want to reconsider the case. People said that it's a tight fit inside and better for a micro atx.
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