How is my rig? Opinions please!

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Ok, so I'm still new to Tom's Hardware but this must be my 15th post, basically one post for every piece of hardware I've researched and I'm finally at the end of my dream build thanks to all of the excellent help everyone has provided. I'm very thankful for it! So one last post before I make the purchase of my new computer finally!

Question Topics:
1) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L. I've read that this is probably the best bang for the buck when it comes to overclocking due to its high CFM and quiet mode, but thankfully it's ALSO an all-in-one kit! What do you all think? I was going to get the Corsair Hydro H100i and I'm happy to say that I've heard everyone's opinions that it's good but not a great choice.

2) Power Supply: EVGA's SuperNOVA G2 Series seems to be a favorite. I've read and been told by more people that it's easily one of the best for the price for high watts and long life. I was originally leaning toward a Corsair RM Series which I avoided due to advice from many, many people, but when it came down to the Corsair Professional Series AX1200i and this SuperNOVA, this just seemed safer for the price and reputation. So, everyone, how is this version of SuperNOVA G2? Is this a good 1300W PSU? I just want to make sure since everyone seems to like the 1000W version best and I'm not sure if 1300W makes any difference. For the Corsair RM Series, the 850W PSU's and under were good but higher watts I read the capacitors were cheap. I don't want that to be the case with the SuperNOVA either!

3) GPU: You can read everything or skip to the final thoughts. Anyway, the GPU will always be my weakest link. I've placed my dice into the CPU and RAM since those are known variables for life-span and longevity. It's plum obvious that my chosen 8 core-16 thread monster will be great or good 5-6 years down the road just as dual cores were great then good then ok after 7 years or so. I've heard someone say that I could drop the $1000 CPU for a $300 CPU instead and put that $700 toward a second GPU, but since graphics cards become obsolete 10x faster than CPU's, I will still run into longevity issues whether I spend $300 or $1000 on a GPU. This is why I put dice into the CPU. I also hate SLI/Crossfire so that limits me a fair bit.

-----#3 continued: So the question is whether or not I should get an R9 290X or the R9 295x2. I think I'm convinced Sapphire is best over Asus, so it's really just a matter of value and longevity. If anyone has ANY opinion on whether the 295x2 will perform awesome or poorly 5 years down the road let me know. This is what it's coming down to basically.
----#3 final thoughts: The thing I want to know most is whether the 290x will experience poor performance 4-5 years down the road. Will a 295x2 still be awesome down the road noticeably more than the 290X? If so then it may merit the price tag.

Thanks so much for reading. Hopefully this will be my very last thread for my current next-gen PC build.

NOTE: Every part that I've picked so far has been very carefully chosen based on my likes and needs. Even the 8 core CPU will be swamped with loads since this computer will also be used as a server. The GPU is the biggest unknown factor and probably always will be, so feel free to express any advice or opinions based on experience, intuition and/or knowledge. Thanks!!

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 8 core OC to 4GHz
COOLER: Cooler Master Nepton 280L
MOBO: Gigabyte LGA2011-V3 GA X99 UD4
RAM: (Fill 4 of 8 DIMMs)16GB DDR4 G-Skill Ripjaws 3200MHz CL16
GPU: 4GB Sapphire Radeon R9 290X Vapor X Tri X
HDD(s): 2x 2TB Seagate Hybrid SATA III 6Gb/s 7.8GB NAND Flash Cache and 64MB HDD Cache
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2 80+ Gold
 
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There is an XFX 295X2 that is $999. Its the cheapest it goes, so I hope it fits in the build save the $500 from the CPU and put it into a SSD and a...

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1) Good cooler, and very reliable brand.

2) Not the biggest fan of SuperNova or just EVGA PSUs as a whole. I would recommend an XFX, SeaSonic or High-endish Corsair. CoolerMaster's PSUs are also known to be pretty reliable. And just a note, I wouldn't buy a PSU if it has less than a 2 Year warranty.

3) I would drop the CPU to a i7-4930k then I would get a good SSD and go for the R9 295X2(Currently $900, so get it fast). My reasoning is: SSD is always better, a 6 Core CPU will last you 5-6(probably more) years(an 8 core would probably die before it got to the phase where 8 cores is on the recommended specs), and a good GPU is what really drives a PC. A CPU is very important, but if you don't have a good GPU you're not gonna see the FPS you want to see.

3 Extended: Sapphire is good but I prefer XFX way over Sapphire. To me:

1. XFX
2. Sapphire or Gigabyte
3. Gigabyte or Sapphire
4. Asus(Really good but meh...)

Also XFX always has unlocked voltages so it would be a lot easier overclocking it and you would get a better clock. Gigabyte WINDFORCE and Sapphire Tri-X are also really good.

And the 295X2 will not become irrelevant in the next 5 years, just like how the GTX 690, released about 2 and a half years ago, is still a card people buy when looking for enthusiast grade graphics.

Hope I answered all your questions and Good Luck ;)
 

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The EVGA Supernova G2 series is pretty good, built by superflower and comes with a 10 year warranty. I personally lean towards Seasonics also and you could grab a 1250w seasonic X series PSU for $30 more. Either one would work well.
 

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10 year warranty is definitely a plus, but I said that I didn't like it personally. Its just not MY favorite brand. But yes, agreed, SeaSonic PSUs are very good.
 

CmdrJeffSinclair

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Nice guys thanks for some solid answers. So from what I've gathered then, the best way to maximize my computer is to get the R9 295X2 as it'd be worth the extra dough, however it doesn't have any HDMI connections so I'd need a monitor or some horrible adapter that I'm sure would ruin picture quality. I'm practical so I will never use 4K monitor resolutions unless I have a small theater in my apartment lol. 1080p doesn't benefit monitors under 36" as the picture becomes distorted and 1080p is still perfect with screens as large as 80". Evidence shows that the only real benefit to 4K would be for 100" or more screen sizes so I don't know what the hype is for everyone. 1080p60 is the way to go at the moment and for my 1080 120Hz TV having real benefit for movies with interpolation (fake 120Hz of course since TV's do not have 120Hz signals yet and probably never will).

Anyway, for the PSU I'm again at a crossroads. I'm happy with the 10 year warranty on the Supernova G2 so that PSU is good enough in my mind if everyone's advice is strictly opinion based. In a previous thread not about PSU's lots of people made side comments about my PSU anyway. They all favored SuperNOVA G2 Series pretty much hands down. Since I have no experience with a real PSU (laptop user) and everyone is split, I guess I'm left with a crapshoot no matter what I decide. That's where the warranty covers my indecision I suppose.

And as for the CPU, dropping to a 6-core is certainly feasible and probably will yield performance boosts since games are not optimized for 8 cores and may still be a couple years til 8 cores even feel any pinch of strain at all, let alone full loads. I'll definitely give that some serious thought.

So, if I bought the 295x2 instead, would it be able to crush games 5-6 years from now 1080p60? Again, would the 290X be able to crush games at 1080p60 also? If so then there would be little point to the upgrade. I've been told quite often that the 290X would slaughter games for years at 1080p60. Any thoughts on this? More than 60 FPS is useless for someone like me. I'm an enthusiast only to the point where a difference is made. I can justify an 8 core since I do some seriously wicked things to my poor computers...similar also with a GPU however the GPU won't be taxed at all for another 2 years most likely since games are only just now entering next gen. The CPU I'll be taxing the moment I install it lol so the purchase is substantiated.
 

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Scratch that. The 295x2 is over $1000 easily, most being $1500. That's too much for what I've read to only be a few percent performance difference and the chance is still high it'll need to be replaced in about 4-5 years. I might as well get the 290X instead and see how that goes when the price drops in a few weeks (from what I've heard). The 295x2 would make my build go well over $4000. No way. $3k is really steep already for future proofing the core components but I'd prefer it lower. I think I've finished perfecting my dream rig hahah that is, if the GPU is the only thing left.
 

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You wouldn't get performance boosts by dropping down to 6 cores but you wouldn't get any performance boosts by sticking with it either right now. Also, keep in mind that the i7-4930k is hyperthreaded so it has 12 threads with its 6 cores. The additional threads act as "virtual" cores and can provide extra power. In order for you to need more than the 6 core, 12 thread i7 4930k you would need a program the uses hyperthreading and uses more than 12 cores, which isn't going to happen for games for a long time.

Regarding the r9 295x2 ports, 4 mini display ports and a DVI port, both of which output HD and can be easily changed over to HDMI.
 

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There is an XFX 295X2 that is $999. Its the cheapest it goes, so I hope it fits in the build save the $500 from the CPU and put it into a SSD and a 295X2. And the performance surpases a 290x by alot.

Heres the link to the GPU:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JOQZ4XE/?tag=pcpapi-20

And some benchmarks. You can see that the 290X needs to be CrossFired in order to catch up with/surpass the 295X2:

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Also you may have noticed that these benchmarks are at 2560x1440 and you are playing at 1080p, so expect much better framerates.

Full Review:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-review-benchmark-performance,3799.html
 
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