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1st PC Build- Need help making Gaming PC on a low budget (under 1k)

So I made this prospective PC build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jesmonkey/saved/M8dG3C .
It will be my 1st time building a computer, and I am somewhat uncertain about whether all these components are compatible, and whether they will be capable of achieving my goals.

Here it is as well:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core $198.97
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $29.70
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g $5.98
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 $95.49
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $90.99
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $56.98
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB $289.99
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower $19.99
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V $44.99
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $15.98
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 $18.36

I'm going to mostly be live streaming games, like starcraft II and LoL. Anyway, I have a few questions about this build. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
1) Does anyone know if it can run the latest games on ultra?
2) is it worth it to spend a little extra for the i5-4670k, so that I can overclock if need be?
3) do I need an ssd?
4) is 600w psu enough?
5) should I get a different motherboard, so that it will be compatible with future upgrades to the CPU or graphics?
6) will it all fit in a microATX case? Is the 600w psu larger than a 500w? Is it worth it to get a mid-size case for better airflow, and if so, which one do you recommend?

Thanks so much!!
-Jesmonkey
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  1. 1. Yes it can
    2. Yes I have the 4670K and it was worth the extra money
    3. I would get one...120GB Evo is cheap
    4. Yes that's enough
    5. I would get a Z97 board
    6. No I would go with a mid tower. That's a big graphics card and the air cooler sticks out quite a bit.
  2. ImDaBaron said:
    1. Yes it can
    2. Yes I have the 4670K and it was worth the extra money
    3. I would get one...120GB Evo is cheap
    4. Yes that's enough
    5. I would get a Z97 board
    6. No I would go with a mid tower. That's a big graphics card and the air cooler sticks out quite a bit.


    Here's the updated build, following your suggestions: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jesmonkey/saved/spbRsY .
    I did not change the motherboard. Can you justify why I should pay another $80 for the z97 mobo? What advantages does it have? I'm nearly over-budget as it is.
    Also, I added a really cheap ssd. I'm not sure if its a bad one.
  3. Best answer
    Jesmonkey said:
    ImDaBaron said:
    1. Yes it can
    2. Yes I have the 4670K and it was worth the extra money
    3. I would get one...120GB Evo is cheap
    4. Yes that's enough
    5. I would get a Z97 board
    6. No I would go with a mid tower. That's a big graphics card and the air cooler sticks out quite a bit.


    Here's the updated build, following your suggestions: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jesmonkey/saved/spbRsY .
    I did not change the motherboard. Can you justify why I should pay another $80 for the z97 mobo? What advantages does it have? I'm nearly over-budget as it is.
    Also, I added a really cheap ssd. I'm not sure if its a bad one.


    Do you want to overclock? I would go with the Z97 board. You can get a full ATX it looks like with that case. The 97 is the newest chipset that's the advantage. If you dont want to overclock go with the original processor and a H97 board.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132121&cm_re=H97-_-13-132-121-_-Product

    Go with a Samsung Evo 840 SSD
  4. Anonymous said:

    I believe that the GTX 770 is better than the R9 280x. However, I don't know if the 2gb vram of the GTX vs the 3gb vram of the R9 280x is significant. The R9 280x 3gb is about the same price as the GTX 770 2gb, so I'm really not sure which is the better buy.
    Also, why the different case?
  5. Jesmonkey said:
    Anonymous said:

    I believe that the GTX 770 is better than the R9 280x. However, I don't know if the 2gb vram of the GTX vs the 3gb vram of the R9 280x is significant. The R9 280x 3gb is about the same price as the GTX 770 2gb, so I'm really not sure which is the better buy.
    Also, why the different case?


    Well in the future then more vram might help. I would go with the 280X. If your getting the 770 the only way I would do it is if it had 4GB.
  6. ImDaBaron said:
    Jesmonkey said:
    ImDaBaron said:
    1. Yes it can
    2. Yes I have the 4670K and it was worth the extra money
    3. I would get one...120GB Evo is cheap
    4. Yes that's enough
    5. I would get a Z97 board
    6. No I would go with a mid tower. That's a big graphics card and the air cooler sticks out quite a bit.


    Here's the updated build, following your suggestions: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jesmonkey/saved/spbRsY .
    I did not change the motherboard. Can you justify why I should pay another $80 for the z97 mobo? What advantages does it have? I'm nearly over-budget as it is.
    Also, I added a really cheap ssd. I'm not sure if its a bad one.


    Do you want to overclock? I would go with the Z97 board. You can get a full ATX it looks like with that case. The 97 is the newest chipset that's the advantage. If you dont want to overclock go with the original processor and a H97 board.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132121&cm_re=H97-_-13-132-121-_-Product

    Go with a Samsung Evo 840 SSD


    I'm not sure if I want to overclock. That's why I asked whether over-clocking is worth it in the beginning. I am a noob at this, so keep in mind that I have never over-clocked before. I have read that over-clocking can reduce the lifespan of the cpu, and pontentially cause over heating and voltage issues. I don't have liquid cooling in this build, so I wonder if the Evo CoolerMaster is enough. I would only want over-clocking capability as a form of future proofing, so that if I need to boost my processing speed in the future for some program of game, I will be able to do so. However, I would not over-clock until I felt that I needed to do so. Why would the H87 be incapable of overclocking?

    I suppose that I can just sub in the Asrock ATX Z97 Extreme3, since its actually cheaper than the Asrock microATX H87. ($89.99 vs $95.49) Wierd that its cheaper, but okay. Also, if you could read my comment to askalice below and give input on that, it would be great. THanks!
  7. Jesmonkey said:
    Anonymous said:

    I believe that the GTX 770 is better than the R9 280x. However, I don't know if the 2gb vram of the GTX vs the 3gb vram of the R9 280x is significant. The R9 280x 3gb is about the same price as the GTX 770 2gb, so I'm really not sure which is the better buy.
    Also, why the different case?


    It depends on the games. Some games are better with the 770, some with the 280x. The cheapest 770 I can find is 40-50 expensiver, and not worth the premium. If not overclocking, get an i5-4570 for $200 and a ASRock B85 Pro 4 for $70 or a MSI H87 Micro-ATX for $85.
  8. Jesmonkey said:
    ImDaBaron said:
    Jesmonkey said:
    ImDaBaron said:
    1. Yes it can
    2. Yes I have the 4670K and it was worth the extra money
    3. I would get one...120GB Evo is cheap
    4. Yes that's enough
    5. I would get a Z97 board
    6. No I would go with a mid tower. That's a big graphics card and the air cooler sticks out quite a bit.


    Here's the updated build, following your suggestions: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jesmonkey/saved/spbRsY .
    I did not change the motherboard. Can you justify why I should pay another $80 for the z97 mobo? What advantages does it have? I'm nearly over-budget as it is.
    Also, I added a really cheap ssd. I'm not sure if its a bad one.


    Do you want to overclock? I would go with the Z97 board. You can get a full ATX it looks like with that case. The 97 is the newest chipset that's the advantage. If you dont want to overclock go with the original processor and a H97 board.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132121&cm_re=H97-_-13-132-121-_-Product

    Go with a Samsung Evo 840 SSD


    I'm not sure if I want to overclock. That's why I asked whether over-clocking is worth it in the beginning. I am a noob at this, so keep in mind that I have never over-clocked before. I have read that over-clocking can reduce the lifespan of the cpu, and pontentially cause over heating and voltage issues. I don't have liquid cooling in this build, so I wonder if the Evo CoolerMaster is enough. I would only want over-clocking capability as a form of future proofing, so that if I need to boost my processing speed in the future for some program of game, I will be able to do so. However, I would not over-clock until I felt that I needed to do so. Why would the H87 be incapable of overclocking?

    I suppose that I can just sub in the Asrock ATX Z97 Extreme3, since its actually cheaper than the Asrock microATX H87. ($89.99 vs $95.49) Wierd that its cheaper, but okay. Also, if you could read my comment to askalice below and give input on that, it would be great. THanks!



    Yeah the Evo will be fine. I think overclocking is worth it. When you put the system together there are plenty of knowledgeable posters on here to help with overclocking. Just dont use the auto overclocking feature in the BIOS just for future reference. You can technically overclock with the Bios update on the H series boards. But I would stick to the Z series if your serious about it. There's no reason to buy B85 boards or even 87 series boards. The newer chipset 97 is close in price as the one it was replacing. So just go newer.
  9. ImDaBaron said:
    Jesmonkey said:
    ImDaBaron said:
    Jesmonkey said:
    ImDaBaron said:
    1. Yes it can
    2. Yes I have the 4670K and it was worth the extra money
    3. I would get one...120GB Evo is cheap
    4. Yes that's enough
    5. I would get a Z97 board
    6. No I would go with a mid tower. That's a big graphics card and the air cooler sticks out quite a bit.


    Here's the updated build, following your suggestions: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jesmonkey/saved/spbRsY .
    I did not change the motherboard. Can you justify why I should pay another $80 for the z97 mobo? What advantages does it have? I'm nearly over-budget as it is.
    Also, I added a really cheap ssd. I'm not sure if its a bad one.


    Do you want to overclock? I would go with the Z97 board. You can get a full ATX it looks like with that case. The 97 is the newest chipset that's the advantage. If you dont want to overclock go with the original processor and a H97 board.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132121&cm_re=H97-_-13-132-121-_-Product

    Go with a Samsung Evo 840 SSD


    I'm not sure if I want to overclock. That's why I asked whether over-clocking is worth it in the beginning. I am a noob at this, so keep in mind that I have never over-clocked before. I have read that over-clocking can reduce the lifespan of the cpu, and pontentially cause over heating and voltage issues. I don't have liquid cooling in this build, so I wonder if the Evo CoolerMaster is enough. I would only want over-clocking capability as a form of future proofing, so that if I need to boost my processing speed in the future for some program of game, I will be able to do so. However, I would not over-clock until I felt that I needed to do so. Why would the H87 be incapable of overclocking?

    I suppose that I can just sub in the Asrock ATX Z97 Extreme3, since its actually cheaper than the Asrock microATX H87. ($89.99 vs $95.49) Wierd that its cheaper, but okay. Also, if you could read my comment to askalice below and give input on that, it would be great. THanks!



    Yeah the Evo will be fine. I think overclocking is worth it. When you put the system together there are plenty of knowledgeable posters on here to help with overclocking. Just dont use the auto overclocking feature in the BIOS just for future reference. You can technically overclock with the Bios update on the H series boards. But I would stick to the Z series if your serious about it. There's no reason to buy B85 boards or even 87 series boards. The newer chipset 97 is close in price as the one it was replacing. So just go newer.


    The thing with the EVO is that is expensiver, when you can get a 256GB Crucial MX100 for $115, compared to a 250GB 840 evo for $140 @ Newegg.
  10. Samsung has the best SSDs on the market right now with a good warranty. Crucial isnt bad though.
  11. ImDaBaron said:
    Samsung has the best SSDs on the market right now with a good warranty. Crucial isnt bad though.


    I'll get the samsung ssd. As for the video card, imma stick with the gtx 770 2gb one. is 600 watt psu enough. Askalice suggested 650w.
  12. Jesmonkey said:
    ImDaBaron said:
    Samsung has the best SSDs on the market right now with a good warranty. Crucial isnt bad though.


    I'll get the samsung ssd. As for the video card, imma stick with the gtx 770 2gb one. is 600 watt psu enough. Askalice suggested 650w.


    650 couldnt hurt. Just make sure its a Seasonic,XFX or EVGA
  13. Spend your money how you want, but the GTX 770 and 840 evo will add an extra $80 on. For the same performance, the R9 280x with an MX100 is the better deal.
  14. well. too late now. I finished building the computer.
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