Making the switch - Nvidia > Amd
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spacejunk
September 11, 2014 3:23:09 AM
I'm looking for the ultimate Ultra wide screen graphics solution. Cost really isn't a factor, but making a smart purchase is.
I've been reading reviews and benchmarks that illustrate AMD cards have a significant advantage when it come to high res gaming due to their cards having more ROP's and subsequently better fill-rate.
The main reasons I have always chosen Nvidia is that I like cool and quiet components. I don't want to have a component that operates at 95 deg celsius even if it is certified to do so.
So I ask this- Is there really any great real world advantage of running AMD graphics over Nvidia for 4K gaming irrespective of price, Is it worth making the switch ?
My current motherboard supports 4-way SLI and only 2-way CorssfireX. I'm not sure how this will have an impact on things down the track, but I thought I should make mention of it.
Any feedback welcome.
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robax91
September 11, 2014 3:29:22 AM
wh3resmycar
September 11, 2014 4:10:23 AM
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sapperastro
September 11, 2014 7:03:11 AM
Unless you get triple 780ti's or a radeon 295x2, you won't be 4k gaming anytime soon. Both dual R9 290Xs and dual 780tis cannot sustain the 60fps even in benchmarks, let alone when things go to hell in a game with everything blowing up on screen at once. The only card that has so far been shown to do this is the 295x2. And even then, you will be getting lowish end performance in 4k for those 60fps.
My advice for 4K gaming? Wait until it becomes the norm and affordable. Unless you have a lot of money and time to burn.
And radeons aren't broken. Don't listen to people that throw those standard lines out there. I have both brands cards in different PCs, and there are small issues with both depending on the game.
If you are happy with Nvidia, stay with Nvidia. If you feel like a change, try AMD. You won't lose either way, honestly. I don't care what I buy (though I tend to buy EVGA for Nvidia and Sapphire for AMD cards), I just buy the best performance I can get for the best price. Simples.
My advice for 4K gaming? Wait until it becomes the norm and affordable. Unless you have a lot of money and time to burn.
And radeons aren't broken. Don't listen to people that throw those standard lines out there. I have both brands cards in different PCs, and there are small issues with both depending on the game.
If you are happy with Nvidia, stay with Nvidia. If you feel like a change, try AMD. You won't lose either way, honestly. I don't care what I buy (though I tend to buy EVGA for Nvidia and Sapphire for AMD cards), I just buy the best performance I can get for the best price. Simples.
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wh3resmycar
September 11, 2014 8:43:46 AM
oxiide
September 11, 2014 9:14:02 AM
I don't think there's a categorical performance difference between AMD and Nvidia, even at high resolutions, but there's certainly a major value difference. For 4K gaming today, you really can't make a smarter purchase than the R9 295X2. It was already reasonably priced at $1500, and I think its going to be on a promotional sale for $1000 soon. Performance-wise, I don't think comparable Nvidia hardware is too far behind, you'll just pay more for it. And yes, maybe in some games that extra frame buffer will matter, though two 3 GB GTX 780 Ti's seem to do okay at 4K in most games today.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7930/the-amd-radeon-r9-29...
Smartest thing to do would be to wait for the next round of cards from both companies, though. At the least it may drive some price cuts.
If its so widespread that they're "broken" without it, its funny how thousands of people with AMD cards don't complain about this on every corner of the internet at all times. I'm not questioning that you've had issues, but to suggest everyone does is a silly blanket statement.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7930/the-amd-radeon-r9-29...
Smartest thing to do would be to wait for the next round of cards from both companies, though. At the least it may drive some price cuts.
wh3resmycar said:
they are broken without radeonpro. unless you fancy screen-tearing or dipping to 30fps with regular VSYNC. i own a 280x at the moment so i know what i'm talking about.If its so widespread that they're "broken" without it, its funny how thousands of people with AMD cards don't complain about this on every corner of the internet at all times. I'm not questioning that you've had issues, but to suggest everyone does is a silly blanket statement.
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spacejunk
September 11, 2014 10:27:19 AM
Embra
September 11, 2014 10:35:34 AM
spacejunk
September 11, 2014 10:40:35 AM
spacejunk
September 11, 2014 10:48:53 AM
spacejunk
September 11, 2014 11:01:25 AM
legend001523 said:
You don't have to break the bank for smooth 1440p gaming, a 780 or r9 290/x will do and they're all under $500I wish that were true for me. At 1440p I'd be lucky to get 30fps out of the games I play and thanks to my unfortunately high FFR 30 fps looks like my monitor is stuck in a paint shaker. :S
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Embra
September 11, 2014 11:19:36 AM
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spacejunk
September 11, 2014 11:37:04 AM
legend001523 said:
With a good cpu, a 780 will get over 50fps on games, like bf4, witcher, gta 5 when it comes out probs and crysis methinks so these cards are definitely worth a shotMaybe you missed the part where I said Ultra widescreen gaming, I dunno, but all the benchmarks put a single 780 at around 30fps at this resolution in most demanding games.
The benchmarks would have me believe I need 780ti X 2 to achieve anything over 40fps with 4k.
Thanks, most useful.
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spacejunk
September 11, 2014 12:09:24 PM
legend001523 said:
Well yes, like i said, for 4k you need sli, i was saying 780 for 1440pHave you read many benchmarks ? for 1440p a single 780 is not viable, unless you like 30fps on medium-high settings. Hell, even a single 780ti isn't viable at anything over 2560x1440
I just can't take that recommendation seriously. It's clear I'll need a 2 way 780ti or 295x minimum.
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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_78...
You get 60fps for bf3, so roughly 40-50fps on bf4 or any latest games on ultra, and yes, I do read a lot of benchmarks, I'm not saying you shouldn't sli 780ti, if you can, do it.
You get 60fps for bf3, so roughly 40-50fps on bf4 or any latest games on ultra, and yes, I do read a lot of benchmarks, I'm not saying you shouldn't sli 780ti, if you can, do it.
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spacejunk
September 11, 2014 12:34:29 PM
What If I want to play a game that isn't BF3 ?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_780...
Under 30fps @3440x1440, I'll will be so happy I bought a 780 then.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_78...
44fps @2560x1440 add almost another thousand to horizontal res (my screen) and you will be lucky to have 30. Saying I only need a 780 isn't helping me here.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_780...
Under 30fps @3440x1440, I'll will be so happy I bought a 780 then.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_78...
44fps @2560x1440 add almost another thousand to horizontal res (my screen) and you will be lucky to have 30. Saying I only need a 780 isn't helping me here.
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September 11, 2014 12:42:03 PM
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September 11, 2014 12:57:16 PM
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September 11, 2014 1:01:30 PM
spacejunk
September 11, 2014 1:41:41 PM
wh3resmycar
September 11, 2014 3:34:08 PM
those "thousands of people" actually are using radeonpro.
"http://www.radeonpro.info/download/" check the stats. nvidia managed to put adaptive vsync in their drivers, AMD wont. now if you've been living with screen tearing all your life and you're happy with it then good for you.
i'm giving actual consumer advise as the OP is looking for a pretty expensive setup. he's looking at 21:9 (ultra wide), and SCREEN EFFING TEARING WOULD BE EXTREMELY NOTICEABLE at that. and i haven't read any news of 21:9 monitors that will do gsync/freesync coming this year.
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September 11, 2014 3:44:53 PM
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