Would appreciate some advice on this pc build

CRUSHEQUITY · Sep 11, 2014

I have always wanted to get a nice pc, however have never been able to afford more than $500 and have been using my i5 laptop for the last 4 years. I have never really gamed on a pc other than religiously raping d2 classic back in the day..ahhh the good ol days lol. Anyways, I finally can afford to drop 1.5k-2k on a nice above average but not balls to the walls. The only thing is although ive spent quite a bit of time this week looking at peoples builds, reading on some forums and playing cyberpowerpc I still am not sure exactly what to do. I'm not sure how much of what im getting I don't actually need as opposed as to ooohhh and ahhh it looks pretty lol. The one thing I have settled on is I want the i7-4790k 4/4.40 TB processor because A. I'm not sure I wanna mess with overclocking and it stocks at 4-4.4 anyway and B. I want the multi threading for future applications. The $100 extra is worth it to me. Another thing I have looked a lot into and really like is the MIS Mpower Z97 AC Max mother board. Is this overkill? It seems to make overclocking simple for me in the future if I decide to do so. Also obviously, the GPU is the big one. I have decided on the Nvidia GTX 770 superclocked 2gb ddr5 is this overkill? I think I have done a good job making sure everything is compatible, but would really appreciate some advice and feedback. Also, if I would save more then $500 building this my self I may consider doing it. But if its only like $200-$300 to have someone else do it, expecially a company that does it for a living then im fine cuz I havn't even had a desktop in 5 years, the last being a hp AMD that I raped d2 on wayyyyyyy back in the day with intergrated graphics lmao. Please excuse my noobness. But I promise im not just trying to get people to wipe my ass for me. Ive spent a lot of time the last week looking at peoples build lists and reading. I just would like to have some feedback from an actual person regarding my situation as opposed to looking at other peoples feedback for their situations. Below is what I picked out at CyberpowerPC. Please let me know what yall think.

Also, I wouldn't mind having some feedback about building the pc on my own, just take into account, I just moved to a new area so don't know anyone that does computers, and am apprehensive spending 1.5k or whatever on computer parts and doing it all on my own with no experience or help.

THank you for your time.

BLUETOOTH: None
CABLE: 10-FT HDMI v1.4 Cable Type-A Male to Male High Speed Cable [+10] (1 piece)
CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
CARE2: * Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
CARE3: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
CAS: Phanteks Enthoo Pro w/ USB 3.0, Side-Panel Window [+39] (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: LG 16X Internal Blu-ray Burner, BD-RE, DVD+RW Combo Drive [+60] (Black Color)
CD2: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+17] (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4790K 4.0 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified) [+50]
CS_FAN: Enermax TB Silence UCTB14 140mm Performance Cooling with Low Noise Profile Fan [+39]
DOCKINGSTATION: None
ENGRAVING: None
ENGRAVING_MSG:
FA_HDD: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)
FAN: Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan [+20] (Dual Enermax Enlobal Silent High Performance 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+29])
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU: Intel Back-to-School Ultimate System Giveaway Coupon
FREEBIE_VC1: FREE! NVIDIA Borderlands: the Pre-Sequel Game Coupon [+0]
GLASSES: None
HDD: 256GB ADATA SP610 SSD + 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+107] (Single Drive)
HDD2: None
HEADSET: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
MB_SRT: None
MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory [+100] (Corsair Vengeance)
MIR_VCSSD: NONE
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOPAD: None
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z97 MPOWER Max AC ATX w/ Intel Wi-Fi AC, 3 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 1x M.2, 8x SATA 6Gb/s (All Venom OC Certified) [+188]
MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NFC: None
NOISEREDUCE1: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition) + Office 365 FREE 30 Days Trial [+104]
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 850 Watts - Corsair RM850 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+109]
RUSH: Standard processing time: ship within 5 to 10 Business Days
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR [3 Year Labor, 1 Year Parts] LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TEMP: Aerocool Touch 1000 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Control [+25]

TUNING: None

VIDEO: EVGA Superclocked NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB GDDR5 w/ ACX Cooling PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card [+221] (Single Card)
WNC: None
_PRICE: (+2051)
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CRUSHEQUITY · Sep 11, 2014

I forgot to mention what I wanted to use the pc for. I want to start gaming a bit again, not sure on what games, but don't want to be limited and I want to be able to play without lag. I can't STAND lag of any kind. More than anything I want to be able to watch mkv or wmv 1080p movie files without any skipping or lag on the screen. I also love music and want g0ood sound, one reason I chose the msi Mpower ac max motherboard.

mapesdhs · Sep 11, 2014

I'll leave others to comment more generally, but one thing I would say, with respect to future proofing
& suchlike, the H60 is a bit on the low side. Get an H80 (or H80i) instead, or indeed even an H100i if
the budget permits (I bagged a whole load of refurb H80is and H100is, cheaper than new H60s, they
work great, handle even an oc'd 3930K no problem).

Note though that if you care about noise, bare in mind the stock fans with water coolers can be rather
loud under load. The ones Corsair supplies certainly are. I replace all the fans for the units I obtain
with Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm PWM. They work just as well but generate massively less noise
under load. And if someone starts banging on about Noctua fans, I have some, they're louder than
the NDS models but cost 2X more. Other options too I expect, but don't go spending oodles on the
max-price items just because everyone says they're the Best. I keep finding such claims are often
overstated once I compare such things to other products that are at least a useful amount cheaper.

Btw, do you really need the extra DVDRW? Also, might be an idea to wait until the Maxwell launch.
Partly because it may result in useful price drops for you, but also because perhaps one of the new
products might be a better buy (eg. more RAM; 2GB isn't that great these days).

Ian.

PS. Oddly enough (reading more closely again), looks like your spec summary is showing the stock
Corsair fans being replaced anyway.

Spectre694 · Sep 11, 2014

Built this for you real quick to give you a sense of price difference between prebuilt and building yourself
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DgWfVn

It has 780 instead of 770 and a h100i vs the smaller h60 and comes in at $1500 Asus board still has upgraded audio I've just found MSI to have poor QC.

okcnaline · Sep 11, 2014

If this computer is over $2K, I would build one myself. It's abysmal for the price range, but bringing that down to $1300 it would be awesome.

mapesdhs · Sep 11, 2014

Spectre694, good call dude! 8)

Indeed, self-building saves a lot, and it's a useful learning experience for the future. Gives one
the confidence to handle upgrade and maintenance issues aswell.

Can't help balk at their charging for tidy cabling. That ought to be free & standard practice.

Ian.

Spectre694 · Sep 11, 2014

okcnaline :

[Mapedhs, Thanks man! and you're right these "professionals" ought to put enough effort that their work doesn't look like someone just threw it together the day it shipped]

okcaline,
You mean something like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.93 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($165.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($398.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($94.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1360.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-11 23:02 EDT-0400

CRUSHEQUITY · Sep 11, 2014

Wow, thank you for such fast responses yall. Both of you. Warp 9 thank you for taking the time to make that list. Gives me an idea of things perhaps I was over and under killing on. It still makes me a bit nervous doing all this on my own, even though im really good at watching videos (other people doing something) and doing it fine my self. Still, one mistake and poof gotta buy it again. But, for $500 plus the satisfaction that I built it my self may be worth it. So Warp 9, since you included the 780 GPU in the build I'm assuming its more important then I thought? I know from the reading ive been doing the GPU is what really drives the games, but still a little unsure of it all. The only thing I could see my self using more then one monitor for would be Multi Tabling like 12 NL holdem games online, although I usually keep it to 8 and one 40" 1080p tv usually does the trick on my 4 yr old laptop. Would you mind explaining why this is $200 better than the 770? I'm not understanding the difference. Why so little more costs so much. My understanding is anything over 2gb is mainly for multiple monitors? or am I not understanding this right? are superclocked Gpus bad?
Maps, I don't need another drive, I just added it cuz it was only $7 and that way I can use 1 for blueray only and the other for dvds and its a dual layerd so I can burn 8gb dvds. Thank you for your advice on the fan. I just saw in my readings that was a good brand, I will make sure to get the h80 or h100i.

More than anything, this is something I have wanted to get since I was a kid. Although, I am not and doubt I will ever again be a big gamer, I would love to have a really powerful pc. Plus, there are some good games on pc.

okcnaline · Sep 11, 2014

Spectre, yes.

CRUSHEQUITY · Sep 11, 2014

One thing I was wanting to do was buy a new simple desktp or laptop for a friend for their birthday. Maybe I shoud just build one? To gain experience and confidence to buikd my own. What would be a good build for a budget $300 or so small desktop or if possible a laptop that's only used for basic web surfing, youtube and watching movies? Thank you guys for all ur help.

okcnaline · Sep 12, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3450 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $314.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-12 01:30 EDT-0400

CRUSHEQUITY · Sep 12, 2014

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vm6623

Took me a while but I came up with this. How would this be for a practice build? As a gift to a friend for basic web browsing, videos and movies?

legend001523 · Sep 12, 2014

CRUSHEQUITY :

how much can you pay for just the components on your real build?

CRUSHEQUITY · Sep 12, 2014

1-2k less is better. I can go up to 2k but not sure I need that much. Honestly I'm not sure exactly what I need. Mainly for basic use and watching 1080p movies and some light gaming.

legend001523 · Sep 12, 2014

for light gaming at ultra, anything with a i5 or a fx6300 if you want to go cheaper with a gtx770 or r9 280x will be fine, those 2 parts, will probably cost $400-$500, rest you can just go cheap on BUT the psu

CRUSHEQUITY · Sep 12, 2014

Thank you Legend. And CK Thank you, I wish id seen your post before I spent like two hours making that list I made lol. It was good experience making it though. Pcpicker is a life saver for a newb like me so you can see how everything fits together and is compatible. You guys have been hella helpful. Thank you very much. Yall have inspired me to go ahead and build a pc I think. Not just cuz its cheaper, but I just think it would be cool to do. Aswell as teaching me a lot in case something goes wrong down the road I can troubleshoot it myself more likely as opposed to paying someone else to do it. More than anything I want something that is real nice and will continue to be for atleast a few years, with the only upgraded needed being perhaps the GPU.

Teemi · Sep 12, 2014

Customers from cyberpower said that the standard wiring is pretty good so there's no need to get pro wiring. Honestly, I have never build a computer before and I managed to get my first $1100 build working perfectly. You really just have to becareful about static electricity and making sure all the parts are of high quality and compatible. The components aren't THAT fragile. I mean unless you are going to step on them or throw them against the wall, you can't really hurt them through a regular building process.

legend001523 · Sep 12, 2014

Yeah those are the main parts your build should revolve around

Teemi · Sep 12, 2014

CRUSHEQUITY :

You don't need the sound card, wifi (ethernet will do), or case fans.

Edit: Also, okcnaline's build is better.

Would appreciate some advice on this pc build

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