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Low FPS on minecraft / crashes with R9 290X

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September 12, 2014 12:06:58 PM

So I just bought a R9 290X and when I try to play minecraft, I have a small amount of FPS. Then, when I switch for example to Google Chrome, and reswitch back to minecraft, e stops working.
How can I fix this?
PS.: No, I didn't buy this GPU to play minecraft, I also play other games, such as Battlefield 4.

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September 12, 2014 12:08:02 PM

This didn't happen when I was using my 560 Ti.
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September 12, 2014 12:21:58 PM

Full specs?

Run fraps, tell us what your average fps is in MC.
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September 12, 2014 12:24:46 PM

moozilbee said:
Full specs?

Run fraps, tell us what your average fps is in MC.


I can click F3 to see my FPS. The FPS aren't that low normally, but they are lower in a certain spot.
It crashed when I switch pages. My PC is good enough for the game by the way. I7 3770K OC to 4,3Ghz, 16GB ram, 250SSD.

EDIT: I just realized that I don't even have to be ingame (I can be on the menu, where you choose Single or Multiplayer) for the game to crash.
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September 12, 2014 12:47:52 PM

I get up to 250. With my GTX 560 Ti I would sometimes get 300-400 fps, but I didn't crash and I crash now.
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September 12, 2014 12:56:05 PM

Hello,

What PSU are you using (make/model)? For 290x, a very good 650 W PSU is a must (at least 45Amps for the +12V rail, or 2x25Amps for dual +12V rail).
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September 13, 2014 8:05:59 PM

Be more specific, does the game crash whilst your playing, or when you switch to another window? If it's switching to another window, I believe that often happens with some games, the solution would be to either play in windowed mode, or see if you can somehow run the game in borderless window mode.

Also, why do you think 250fps is low?
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September 13, 2014 8:17:15 PM

I was specific. I'll explain it a little better anyway. I get 250fps tops with a R9 290x, whilst with a GTX 560ti, which is worse, I could get up to 400fps. In a certain area, that has a lot of item frames and a lot of different blocks, I would get 60-100fps with the GTX 560Ti, whilst I get 15-30fps with my R9 290x. The game crashes when I switch from minecraft to something like google chrome, and then switch back to minecraft. I do not play on fullscreen, since minecraft isn't something that I think requires that. In my opinion, a R9 290x shouldn't do this, and should get WAY more fps.
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September 13, 2014 9:06:55 PM

I just tested, and for now it hasn't crashed the way it would before. Still low FPS though.
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September 14, 2014 12:08:07 AM

Have you tried going through the different drivers that are available for that card?
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September 14, 2014 4:11:55 AM

Try going updating your drivers as Mousemonkey said, it might fix the FPS issue.
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September 14, 2014 12:33:23 PM

I got the GPU some days ago, and this error occurred on that same day. I guess it's not the drivers, they were up to date.
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September 14, 2014 2:23:17 PM

Did you install the drivers from a disk or did you download them online?
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September 14, 2014 2:27:24 PM

Online
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September 14, 2014 5:06:25 PM

Its a known bug that minecraft may not cause the GPU clocks to increase.

Can you monitor your GPU clock while running minecraft and see if it switches to 3d mode?
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September 14, 2014 5:11:16 PM

smeezekitty said:
Its a known bug that minecraft may not cause the GPU clocks to increase.

Can you monitor your GPU clock while running minecraft and see if it switches to 3d mode?


How do you do that?
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September 14, 2014 5:15:41 PM

Use something to monitor the clocks. I think CCC has that feature but my favorite tool is MSI afterburner
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September 14, 2014 5:25:24 PM

smeezekitty said:
Use something to monitor the clocks. I think CCC has that feature but my favorite tool is MSI afterburner


I do have that (MSI Afterburner), but where exactly do you check that?

EDIT: minecraft just stopped working again
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September 14, 2014 5:29:30 PM

MSI AB should have a small monitor window that should show the core and memory clocks.
When you are idling with no game or video playing it should be at its "idle" clock rating.

Now when you start Minecraft it *should* increase its clock.

If it doesn't then you are experiencing that bug. There are several work aorunds but first
you need to determine if that i s the cause
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September 14, 2014 5:30:19 PM

smeezekitty said:
MSI AB should have a small monitor window that should show the core and memory clocks.
When you are idling with no game or video playing it should be at its "idle" clock rating.

Now when you start Minecraft it *should* increase its clock.

If it doesn't then you are experiencing that bug. There are several work aorunds but first
you need to determine if that i s the cause


I'll try that out.
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September 14, 2014 5:36:58 PM

The core clock doesn't change from 1030. Gaming or not. Not on minecraft, not on battlefield 4.
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September 14, 2014 5:42:02 PM

Wait? Are you saying it is in 3d mode all the time?
What about on a clean boot?

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September 14, 2014 5:49:19 PM

smeezekitty said:
Wait? Are you saying it is in 3d mode all the time?
What about on a clean boot?



I don't even know what 3d mode is. I'll clean boot the pc to test it.
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September 14, 2014 5:51:03 PM

Yup, still the same 1030 on the core and 1250 on the memory
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September 14, 2014 6:08:20 PM

I would try uninstalling the drivers and rolling back a version?
That is certainly odd to see it stuck in 3d clocks
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September 14, 2014 6:17:10 PM

I'll try that out tomorrow, I'm no longer on the pc
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September 15, 2014 11:39:53 AM

I didn't do that graphics thing yet, but I just opened AMD Catalyst Control Center, and clicked on AMD Overdrive and noticed that the GPU clock was at around 300mhz, although that on MSI Afterburner it says 1030mhz.
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September 15, 2014 11:49:41 AM

Ok. Does it increase when you run minecraft?
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September 15, 2014 12:02:43 PM

smeezekitty said:
Ok. Does it increase when you run minecraft?


From 300 to 400-500
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September 15, 2014 12:59:34 PM

Ok that's the problem. You are stuck in low clocks.

There is a guide here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/off-topic/computer...
Its worth a try.

Ignore the people saying it is dangerous. They know nothing about computer hardware
since 1 MHz is within the normal tolerance of the clock generators
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September 15, 2014 1:22:40 PM

I changed it from 1030mhz to 1031mhz as it said there, but after joining a server, the core clock didn't go higher than 500. I didn't restart the system though, do I need to do that?

EDIT: Just restarted the system, do I need to tick the "Apply overclock at startup" box?
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September 15, 2014 1:28:51 PM

Basically, after looking at the core clock MHz, I noticed that sometimes, it would go up to 800-900MHz (never to the max though), but at the spot I always lag, it wouldn't go past 500. And minecraft crashes if I switch to another program and then back to it.
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September 15, 2014 1:29:50 PM

Are you running any shaders or texture packs?
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September 15, 2014 1:34:17 PM

Konker said:
Are you running any shaders or texture packs?


I have them installed, Optifine and SEUS. It never crashed on my GTX 560 Ti with those same mods installed. I also tried to play on a different profile, on a different version, with no mods or whatsoever and it did crash too.
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September 15, 2014 1:36:10 PM

You mentioned it crashed in game? Or right as you load the game?
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September 15, 2014 1:38:02 PM

It crashes like everywhere, on the menu (choosing the SP, MP or game options), while on the "pause (I know it doesn't pause on MP) menu" or ingame, when I switch by opening the inventory or the chat.
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September 15, 2014 1:43:45 PM

Are you using the same texture packs and shaders as you were on your old Graphics card? Maybe you need different or updated versions of them. Also, if you are using the older versions of shaders and texture packs on a new version of Minecraft, than that could cause it to crash. You have to use the right mods with the right version of minecraft. Try taking out all mods and texture packs out of the minecraft game folders in %appdata% folder and seeing if it still crashes. Also, have you tried a clean install of the game?
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September 15, 2014 1:46:12 PM

I didn't change anything on minecraft. Everything I had when I used the GTX 560 Ti I have now. The only difference is that it crashes now, and it didn't before. As I said before, it even crashes without anything added to the game (mods, texture packs, etc)

EDIT: I changed the .minecraft name and I'll test it now.
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September 15, 2014 1:47:43 PM

try uninstalling and reinstalling minecraft and see what happens. Minecraft runs off of java, so it doesn't install onto your computer like normal games.
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September 15, 2014 1:50:25 PM

Yup, still crashes, still lagging. (I renamed .minecraft to ..minecraft and redownloaded and regenerated a new .minecraft)
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September 15, 2014 1:54:30 PM

what about your java version? have you checked something as simple as that? Like do you have the x64 bit version of java?

and it may be your clock speed like smeezekitty said if it is nothing that I mentioned.
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September 15, 2014 1:56:52 PM

Java 7 Update 67 (64 bits) and Java 7 Update 67 (32 bits).
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September 15, 2014 2:02:04 PM

how much RAM are you allocating to the game?
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September 15, 2014 2:17:25 PM

Konker said:
how much RAM are you allocating to the game?


The default 1GB, but when I click F3 it says only 30% something is being used, tops, at that area where I lag.
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September 15, 2014 2:34:00 PM

Well if you have 16 gigs of ram in your computer, you can allocate 4 gigs. But for now, increase it to 2 gigs. Do you know how to do that?
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September 15, 2014 2:58:41 PM

Allocating more RAM will help with that. Shaders take up a lot more RAM than the basic minecraft settings. Before you click "Play," click on "edit profile." At the bottom of the Profile Editor message box, you will see "JVM Arguments:" Change it to "-Xmx2G" to allocate 2gb of ram. Than try it out and see if your FPS changes.
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September 15, 2014 3:06:16 PM

Konker said:
Well from my personal experience with shaders in minecraft, allocating more ram helped my lag issue.


Eh. I don't know what's going on. I am getting the same exact (if not somewhat worse) frames per second that I got when my FX 6300 was on stock clocks and I had an HD 7850. Now I have my FX 6300 OC'ed to 4.4ghz and an R9 290 and I can barely break 120 at max.
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September 15, 2014 3:14:45 PM

That's not the problem, as I said, I'm playing with the default minecraft, without any mods, and I'm still kind of lagging at that place, and crashing on page switch.
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September 15, 2014 3:54:30 PM

Sometimes adding mods actually helps because it increases GPU load
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