Help a fellow get a nice sound setup?
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Sekira Ubica
September 12, 2014 4:30:54 PM
I know people always say "You don't need a sound card!" That being said, I want to get myself a nice setup so I can start recording game play videos and start streaming on twitch. I would need help picking out a microphone and sound card or whatever external devices I would need.
I know everything I need to know about all things pertaining to computers aside from audio. I want something semi professional. Could you fine folks lend a helping hand?
Also, there really is no limit to how much I can spend as I will just save up for it.
Sorry if anything is grammerically incorrect, I am on my phone. Hopefully it's not to bad.
I know everything I need to know about all things pertaining to computers aside from audio. I want something semi professional. Could you fine folks lend a helping hand?
Also, there really is no limit to how much I can spend as I will just save up for it.
Sorry if anything is grammerically incorrect, I am on my phone. Hopefully it's not to bad.
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Sekira Ubica
September 12, 2014 4:44:26 PM
@sekira
moved this to /computer peripherals/ since this is more appropriate.
please be a bit more specific with your question.
give us a roundabout budget as to what you are thinking (eg.. around $100? $300? something we can work with to start)
are you going to be using a soundcard+microphone+headphones? (do you need all 3?)
if so, what kind of sound profile do you like?
is a usb microphone fine (also do you need to be able to hear your voice in the headphones or not?)
i'm familiar with pc audio so i should be able to get you started with some ideas if you lay out what you were thinking.
moved this to /computer peripherals/ since this is more appropriate.
please be a bit more specific with your question.
give us a roundabout budget as to what you are thinking (eg.. around $100? $300? something we can work with to start)
are you going to be using a soundcard+microphone+headphones? (do you need all 3?)
if so, what kind of sound profile do you like?
is a usb microphone fine (also do you need to be able to hear your voice in the headphones or not?)
i'm familiar with pc audio so i should be able to get you started with some ideas if you lay out what you were thinking.
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Sekira Ubica
September 12, 2014 4:58:07 PM
I will change the thread over to the appropriate location once I get home, my phone doesn't want to let me right now, sorry. For the setup I was thinking something a bit more expensive, maybe like 500 for everything.
I would prefer an analog microphone setup to really do the trick, but if there is something USB based you think I should get, ill trust your judgement. So to answer your question, I'm not really sure since I know very little about audio and recording at this point, but I intend to teach myself.
I would prefer an analog microphone setup to really do the trick, but if there is something USB based you think I should get, ill trust your judgement. So to answer your question, I'm not really sure since I know very little about audio and recording at this point, but I intend to teach myself.
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@sekira
no need. i already moved your thread. that was just a notice letting you know that it was moved
okay, $500 is a fair budget (in usa right?)
please also answer my other questions (did you need headphones, mic AND soundcard?) and if you needed them what kind of sound profile you liked. if you already have headphones then please list what you have.
no need. i already moved your thread. that was just a notice letting you know that it was moved
okay, $500 is a fair budget (in usa right?)
please also answer my other questions (did you need headphones, mic AND soundcard?) and if you needed them what kind of sound profile you liked. if you already have headphones then please list what you have.
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Sekira Ubica
September 12, 2014 5:54:59 PM
I have razor black sharks, but I'm going to look into headphones. That would not be part of this budget. Mainly microphone and other sound equipment. And yes US. As for sound profile, I'm not 100% sure I know what you mean, but until now I used the black sharks and they are OK, but I wanted something nicer.
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well by sound profile i meant:
do you prefer... bass heavy sound which is treble light, treble heavy sound which is bass light, treble and bass heavy sound with recessed mids or neutral.
do you consider yourself a basshead (wanting/needing more than typical amounts of bass to be satisfied)?
would you prefer an open soudstage or closed soundstage? open is more airy akin to listening to a band in a park while closed is more confined like listening to a band in a barroom. open tends to have better spacial positioning and sometimes better clarity while closed has better bass output and sound isolation.
also... it would be applicable to note if you wanted to hear your own voice during recording in your headphones or not as this may change what is needed for your equipment.
please also note if you would like "virtual surround sound" or not. basically this is software which makes stereo headphones sound like surround sound (well as best as software can currently fake it anyways) or if stereo only would be fine.
depending on what your choices are and what mic/headphones you pick... a soundcard may or may not be ideal for you which is why i ask. for instance if you went with a professional microphone (which use 48v phantom power and xlr jacks) you might benefit from using an audio interface. if you used a usb mic and needed your voice heard on your headphones then a soundcard may not work and instead using an amplifier for them would be what you needed. or you could be using a combination of different things. i cannot suggest what may work without knowing your preferences.
you will note i mentioned XLR and usb... you may want to look at my headphone guide (click headphones in my signature) and have a look at what i've said about microphones (yes its not done yet i know.... but it has some data worth reading). basically usb works with your computer as plug and play while xlr needs either a 48v phantom power adapter or audio interface to work. most pro mics are xlr though although the at2020usb+ and yeti for about $150-180 make rather decent microphones for things such as semi-pro youtube recording without having to use xlr. your choice of course.
do you prefer... bass heavy sound which is treble light, treble heavy sound which is bass light, treble and bass heavy sound with recessed mids or neutral.
do you consider yourself a basshead (wanting/needing more than typical amounts of bass to be satisfied)?
would you prefer an open soudstage or closed soundstage? open is more airy akin to listening to a band in a park while closed is more confined like listening to a band in a barroom. open tends to have better spacial positioning and sometimes better clarity while closed has better bass output and sound isolation.
also... it would be applicable to note if you wanted to hear your own voice during recording in your headphones or not as this may change what is needed for your equipment.
please also note if you would like "virtual surround sound" or not. basically this is software which makes stereo headphones sound like surround sound (well as best as software can currently fake it anyways) or if stereo only would be fine.
depending on what your choices are and what mic/headphones you pick... a soundcard may or may not be ideal for you which is why i ask. for instance if you went with a professional microphone (which use 48v phantom power and xlr jacks) you might benefit from using an audio interface. if you used a usb mic and needed your voice heard on your headphones then a soundcard may not work and instead using an amplifier for them would be what you needed. or you could be using a combination of different things. i cannot suggest what may work without knowing your preferences.
you will note i mentioned XLR and usb... you may want to look at my headphone guide (click headphones in my signature) and have a look at what i've said about microphones (yes its not done yet i know.... but it has some data worth reading). basically usb works with your computer as plug and play while xlr needs either a 48v phantom power adapter or audio interface to work. most pro mics are xlr though although the at2020usb+ and yeti for about $150-180 make rather decent microphones for things such as semi-pro youtube recording without having to use xlr. your choice of course.
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jasonite
September 12, 2014 6:21:39 PM
Alright, I'm a good guy to talk to about this. The sound quality of sound cards is much better than any motherboard system. There are two or three tiers of quality we are talking about here. If you want a good sound card that comes with a beam forming microphone, get the Sound Blaster Z, it's just great and offers 5.1 sound for about $80-. If you want an excellent sound card with enhanced capability for music try the Asus Xonar Essence STX, which will run you about $180.
The next decision is if you want high quality speakers or headphones. If you want a nice gaming headset I'd recommend the Skullcandy Slyr, it's much better than avg and comes in at around $80. I don't even like Skullcandy and I recommend these! They're closed though, so you will have a smaller soundstage.
If you want true headphones, and to power it with a quality DAC and Amp there are more decisions to make. It will be more expensive but get far higher quality audio. The headphones I chose are the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pros, and I got them on sale for $145--and I love them! I'd recommend heading to head-fi for in depth analysis, I did that before settling on my set.
If you are wanting something more professional there are more things to consider, the first of which is what is your budget? What kind of soundstage do you want, how about imaging, your uppers, mids, lows? Don't get a sound card, get a dedicated DAC & Amp. There are a lot of good things said about the Schiit Modi and Magni combo and if you can spare the change the Wyrd, for instance. Prices only go up from there, but the quality is amazing. Here is the website to the more professional components I'm talking about: http://schiit.com/products
Feel free to ask whatever you like!
The next decision is if you want high quality speakers or headphones. If you want a nice gaming headset I'd recommend the Skullcandy Slyr, it's much better than avg and comes in at around $80. I don't even like Skullcandy and I recommend these! They're closed though, so you will have a smaller soundstage.
If you want true headphones, and to power it with a quality DAC and Amp there are more decisions to make. It will be more expensive but get far higher quality audio. The headphones I chose are the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pros, and I got them on sale for $145--and I love them! I'd recommend heading to head-fi for in depth analysis, I did that before settling on my set.
If you are wanting something more professional there are more things to consider, the first of which is what is your budget? What kind of soundstage do you want, how about imaging, your uppers, mids, lows? Don't get a sound card, get a dedicated DAC & Amp. There are a lot of good things said about the Schiit Modi and Magni combo and if you can spare the change the Wyrd, for instance. Prices only go up from there, but the quality is amazing. Here is the website to the more professional components I'm talking about: http://schiit.com/products
Feel free to ask whatever you like!
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Sekira Ubica
September 12, 2014 7:39:20 PM
This must be what it's like talking to someone who knows nothing about computers, I am completely lost Haha. Ok, I'm just going to answer one question at a time, one post at a time.
ssddx
Base is nice, I have a somewhat deep voice and a little bit deeper of a base concentration may be a good thing. Definitely not overbearing, more like 3/5 base and 2/5 treble.
I'm thinking closed is better.
Being able to hear my own voice would be nice but it's not a determining factor.
On my end virtual surround sound would be nice but again, not required.
I presume xlr is what I meant by analog, and that is what I had in mind.
Currently, I have a yeti blu, the lower end one. I don't use it because I can't get the sound the way I want it. I'd rather switch to a different mic.
Jasonite
My budget would be around 500 unless I need external equipment, as far as quality, my mic would be most important to me, and as far as my soundstage, it would be my desk Haha. I am using it for commentary on games and such, so no singing. A mic that would be good with a lower toned talking that may or may not lead to me yelling out of frustration.
ssddx
Base is nice, I have a somewhat deep voice and a little bit deeper of a base concentration may be a good thing. Definitely not overbearing, more like 3/5 base and 2/5 treble.
I'm thinking closed is better.
Being able to hear my own voice would be nice but it's not a determining factor.
On my end virtual surround sound would be nice but again, not required.
I presume xlr is what I meant by analog, and that is what I had in mind.
Currently, I have a yeti blu, the lower end one. I don't use it because I can't get the sound the way I want it. I'd rather switch to a different mic.
Jasonite
My budget would be around 500 unless I need external equipment, as far as quality, my mic would be most important to me, and as far as my soundstage, it would be my desk Haha. I am using it for commentary on games and such, so no singing. A mic that would be good with a lower toned talking that may or may not lead to me yelling out of frustration.
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jasonite
September 12, 2014 9:52:07 PM
lol, ok...so here are some tips for buying headphones: http://www.head-fi.org/a/headphone-buying-guide
Soundstage refers to how far away things sound as you listen to them with headphones. Do they sound all up close, or do they sound like they are about a foot away, like you are listening to them in an amphitheater? A larger soundstage is considered superior to a small one generally.
Imaging is talking about how good are the headphones at placing sounds where they are coming from. If you are playing an FPS, does the helicopter sound like it's slightly behind you to your left, and up above you? If you are listening to a song, the drums should sound in one place, the guitar in another, the vocals, etc. A basshead is a term meaning someone who loves bass (as opposed to treble), lives for bass, can't get enough bass in gaming or in music. He was not referring at *all* to your voice.
There are + and - to having an open and a closed headphone system. I'm going to quote from the above article here:
"Open headphones will generally have a wider sound stage, giving the music more room to breath and usually more realistic presentation. It can be thought of as seeing a concert outdoors where the music has an air to it. This isn't always true, but it's one way to look at it. The downfall to open headphones is that they leak sound and let sound in. This makes them poor solutions for traveling or if you're sharing a dorm room.
Closed headphones generally have a more narrow and direct sound presentation, similar to going to a club or an intimate venue. This isn't always true either, but it's one way to think of it. Closed headphones usually isolate well, this means that tend to keep the sound between the headphones and the listener. There are exceptions though so it's not always so cut and dry.
Open headphones tend to be great choices when you have no worries of annoying others with sound leakage due to overall better sound quality per dollar than closed headphones. Closed headphones tend to be best when you are sharing close living quarters or are travelling."
For $500, if you are considering gaming just get the Asus Xonar Essence STX sound card and the Skullcandy Slyr and you will be fine. If you want to upgrade the gaming headset check out this guide: http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-gaming-he... and choose what you think seems best. The things I mentioned earlier, the independent DAC, amp, etc, those are for picking out the intricacies of music better, so it is more transparent and full. Used primarily for gaming you don't need that level of detail.
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Soundstage refers to how far away things sound as you listen to them with headphones. Do they sound all up close, or do they sound like they are about a foot away, like you are listening to them in an amphitheater? A larger soundstage is considered superior to a small one generally.
Imaging is talking about how good are the headphones at placing sounds where they are coming from. If you are playing an FPS, does the helicopter sound like it's slightly behind you to your left, and up above you? If you are listening to a song, the drums should sound in one place, the guitar in another, the vocals, etc. A basshead is a term meaning someone who loves bass (as opposed to treble), lives for bass, can't get enough bass in gaming or in music. He was not referring at *all* to your voice.
There are + and - to having an open and a closed headphone system. I'm going to quote from the above article here:
"Open headphones will generally have a wider sound stage, giving the music more room to breath and usually more realistic presentation. It can be thought of as seeing a concert outdoors where the music has an air to it. This isn't always true, but it's one way to look at it. The downfall to open headphones is that they leak sound and let sound in. This makes them poor solutions for traveling or if you're sharing a dorm room.
Closed headphones generally have a more narrow and direct sound presentation, similar to going to a club or an intimate venue. This isn't always true either, but it's one way to think of it. Closed headphones usually isolate well, this means that tend to keep the sound between the headphones and the listener. There are exceptions though so it's not always so cut and dry.
Open headphones tend to be great choices when you have no worries of annoying others with sound leakage due to overall better sound quality per dollar than closed headphones. Closed headphones tend to be best when you are sharing close living quarters or are travelling."
For $500, if you are considering gaming just get the Asus Xonar Essence STX sound card and the Skullcandy Slyr and you will be fine. If you want to upgrade the gaming headset check out this guide: http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-gaming-he... and choose what you think seems best. The things I mentioned earlier, the independent DAC, amp, etc, those are for picking out the intricacies of music better, so it is more transparent and full. Used primarily for gaming you don't need that level of detail.
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Sekira Ubica
September 12, 2014 10:11:40 PM
jasonite said:
lol, ok...so here are some tips for buying headphones: http://www.head-fi.org/a/headphone-buying-guideSoundstage refers to how far away things sound as you listen to them with headphones. Do they sound all up close, or do they sound like they are about a foot away, like you are listening to them in an amphitheater? A larger soundstage is considered superior to a small one generally.
Imaging is talking about how good are the headphones at placing sounds where they are coming from. If you are playing an FPS, does the helicopter sound like it's slightly behind you to your left, and up above you? If you are listening to a song, the drums should sound in one place, the guitar in another, the vocals, etc. A basshead is a term meaning someone who loves bass (as opposed to treble), lives for bass, can't get enough bass in gaming or in music. He was not referring at *all* to your voice.
There are + and - to having an open and a closed headphone system. I'm going to quote from the above article here:
"Open headphones will generally have a wider sound stage, giving the music more room to breath and usually more realistic presentation. It can be thought of as seeing a concert outdoors where the music has an air to it. This isn't always true, but it's one way to look at it. The downfall to open headphones is that they leak sound and let sound in. This makes them poor solutions for traveling or if you're sharing a dorm room.
Closed headphones generally have a more narrow and direct sound presentation, similar to going to a club or an intimate venue. This isn't always true either, but it's one way to think of it. Closed headphones usually isolate well, this means that tend to keep the sound between the headphones and the listener. There are exceptions though so it's not always so cut and dry.
Open headphones tend to be great choices when you have no worries of annoying others with sound leakage due to overall better sound quality per dollar than closed headphones. Closed headphones tend to be best when you are sharing close living quarters or are travelling."
For $500, if you are considering gaming just get the Asus Xonar Essence STX sound card and the Skullcandy Slyr and you will be fine. If you want to upgrade the gaming headset check out this guide: http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-gaming-he... and choose what you think seems best. The things I mentioned earlier, the independent DAC, amp, etc, those are for picking out the intricacies of music better, so it is more transparent and full. Used primarily for gaming you don't need that level of detail.
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Goes to show how little I know about the subject, and why I'm asking you guys instead of doing this on my own XD. I don't really care if others can hear what I'm doing, so open is better, and yes, i don't need the "best" headphones on the market, as I don't listen to a lot of music, mainly i just wanted an improvement. More importantly however is my microphone dilemma. I will look at the article you sent me though.
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September 12, 2014 10:33:22 PM
Sekira Ubica
September 13, 2014 1:23:24 AM
@sekira ubica
before you get confused i should make a few clarifications about what has been said. please make sure to read it all....
what i was asking about "soundstage" refers to your headphones only and not a microphone. it sounds as if you want open headphones (more soundstage) based on your comments. there are some models which have more bass than others and those are likely the ones i'd suggest. please list a budget for headphones so i know what kind of a budget you are looking at. right now i'm thinking perhaps the dt990pro-250 may be more what you're looking for. (or are you looking to get something more pricey than that?)
what i was asking about "sound profile" refers to how the headphones sound not the microphone. for instance bass heavy and treble heavy but mid recessed headphones are the quite popular V-shaped sound profile often liked because it sounds more vibrant and full of energy (its called the "fun" sound profile). this is purely what you personally like to hear from headphones for in-game sounds and music and is different then your microphone selection.
the slyr is a rather large step down actually. the blue yeti microphone you currently have is much better than the one included on the slyr. sound quality is also going to be vastly better on hifi headphones than on the slyr. for a budget of $100 it would be a good choice but definitely not for yours.
the microphone which comes with the Z is also going to be a rather big step down from what you have now. while certainly its good for the price it does not fit your needs at all (which is something better than the blue yeti apparently).
the headset buying guide listed seems to list only the higher priced "headsets" which might not fit your needs. for starters most of them are quite overpriced for the money spent (you can buy the headphone they are based on and add a modmic for $50-100 less). second most are based on bass-light designs so if you like any sort of bass you may feel them a tad lacking. third while the microphone is considered top notch for a headset i'm not sure if its going to be better than the yeti you already have or if it fits with your expectations as a microphone better than the yeti meant for professional recording. so while the guide is good to look at.. you may want to keep a few things in mind.
would a headset like the pc363d work? sure. many amatuer recorders on youtube use such things. some pros even use them as well. most users looking for the best quality though go with seperate hifi headphones and good quality microphones. completely your choice how much money you wanted to spend and what kind of quality you need (i'm not you so i dont know what your needs are exactly)
if you wanted a headphone listing of products then this one is much better http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphon... as it goes over many hifi headphones (note: not headsets or mics) and rates them for gaming performance. keep in mind that this is just one guys opinion so is worth reading while remembering that fact. good for ideas but bad for making a permanent decision on (you would need to do additional research for that).
you mention that you have a blue yeti... what exactly did you dislike about it? you mentioned getting it to sound right but thats a bit vague of a response. was it too treble high? did it pick up background noise? what exactly..
for example... if you like a darker mic (more bassy with more flat treble/mids response) then mics similar to the at3035 might be a good choice. some high end mics tend to be a bit frizzy on the high end in rooms not treated for recording. this guy used that mic for recording about 90% of this video so you can get an idea how it sounds https://myspace.com/sonicsculptureinc (his quote: You can hear what a 3035 sounds like on vox here (except for "People Get Ready" which was a 4050 in omni because we did lead and primary backup vocals live with one mic) however, for all but people looking for serious studio quality sound (entry level studio level actually...) such microphones are rather on the excessive side of things.
now the 3035 is also discontinued so you would need to pick a currently available model... and was listed only as a means of comparision (what darker sound would sound like).
if you were getting other issues such as "pop" out of your current mic then a pop filter and better placement would fix that. if you were getting hissing then that also could likely be fixed. if you were getting reverb or background sounds then that too could be addressed.
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please answer the questions listed and comment on the clarifications i made.
thanks.
if you are still rather confused then you could feel free to join me on IRC for some live discussion if you're online when i am (let me know your availability and i'll let you know yes/no)
before you get confused i should make a few clarifications about what has been said. please make sure to read it all....
what i was asking about "soundstage" refers to your headphones only and not a microphone. it sounds as if you want open headphones (more soundstage) based on your comments. there are some models which have more bass than others and those are likely the ones i'd suggest. please list a budget for headphones so i know what kind of a budget you are looking at. right now i'm thinking perhaps the dt990pro-250 may be more what you're looking for. (or are you looking to get something more pricey than that?)
what i was asking about "sound profile" refers to how the headphones sound not the microphone. for instance bass heavy and treble heavy but mid recessed headphones are the quite popular V-shaped sound profile often liked because it sounds more vibrant and full of energy (its called the "fun" sound profile). this is purely what you personally like to hear from headphones for in-game sounds and music and is different then your microphone selection.
the slyr is a rather large step down actually. the blue yeti microphone you currently have is much better than the one included on the slyr. sound quality is also going to be vastly better on hifi headphones than on the slyr. for a budget of $100 it would be a good choice but definitely not for yours.
the microphone which comes with the Z is also going to be a rather big step down from what you have now. while certainly its good for the price it does not fit your needs at all (which is something better than the blue yeti apparently).
the headset buying guide listed seems to list only the higher priced "headsets" which might not fit your needs. for starters most of them are quite overpriced for the money spent (you can buy the headphone they are based on and add a modmic for $50-100 less). second most are based on bass-light designs so if you like any sort of bass you may feel them a tad lacking. third while the microphone is considered top notch for a headset i'm not sure if its going to be better than the yeti you already have or if it fits with your expectations as a microphone better than the yeti meant for professional recording. so while the guide is good to look at.. you may want to keep a few things in mind.
would a headset like the pc363d work? sure. many amatuer recorders on youtube use such things. some pros even use them as well. most users looking for the best quality though go with seperate hifi headphones and good quality microphones. completely your choice how much money you wanted to spend and what kind of quality you need (i'm not you so i dont know what your needs are exactly)
if you wanted a headphone listing of products then this one is much better http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphon... as it goes over many hifi headphones (note: not headsets or mics) and rates them for gaming performance. keep in mind that this is just one guys opinion so is worth reading while remembering that fact. good for ideas but bad for making a permanent decision on (you would need to do additional research for that).
you mention that you have a blue yeti... what exactly did you dislike about it? you mentioned getting it to sound right but thats a bit vague of a response. was it too treble high? did it pick up background noise? what exactly..
for example... if you like a darker mic (more bassy with more flat treble/mids response) then mics similar to the at3035 might be a good choice. some high end mics tend to be a bit frizzy on the high end in rooms not treated for recording. this guy used that mic for recording about 90% of this video so you can get an idea how it sounds https://myspace.com/sonicsculptureinc (his quote: You can hear what a 3035 sounds like on vox here (except for "People Get Ready" which was a 4050 in omni because we did lead and primary backup vocals live with one mic) however, for all but people looking for serious studio quality sound (entry level studio level actually...) such microphones are rather on the excessive side of things.
now the 3035 is also discontinued so you would need to pick a currently available model... and was listed only as a means of comparision (what darker sound would sound like).
if you were getting other issues such as "pop" out of your current mic then a pop filter and better placement would fix that. if you were getting hissing then that also could likely be fixed. if you were getting reverb or background sounds then that too could be addressed.
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please answer the questions listed and comment on the clarifications i made.
thanks.
if you are still rather confused then you could feel free to join me on IRC for some live discussion if you're online when i am (let me know your availability and i'll let you know yes/no)
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September 13, 2014 2:23:00 PM
I can see where he's coming from on this. I myself did not go with a headset, but with true headphones. That was also because I wanted to also listen to music, and the Beyerdynamic cans I chose were great for both at my budget. One thing to be mindful of in selecting open cans are to get ones that still have a strong bass presence, as many do not. In music this isn't that important (unless you're a basshead), but in gaming it's pretty significant to have a heavy and detailed bass. At least it was for me. The guide ssddx mentioned discusses all of these factors.
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jasonite,
i think the amount of bass response is more preference then requirement. some users need good bass response while others do not.
as for your statement that bass is needed for gaming...some of the best rated gaming cans such as the ad700x/ad900x have almost no bass response and even ever popular hd598 has rather lackluster bass. also look at the very popular pc363d and mmx300 which get rave reviews and yet have rather lackluster bass.
while it may be opinion (but one that seems common online) most people say that bass is more important for music than it is for gaming performance.
it is quite true that many open cans lack good bass but much of this also has to do with them being by definition, open. only a few open cans really have bass levels deep enough to be called "good" in that department. the dt990, hd600 and he-400 for example have more bass than typical.
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before worrying too much about bass levels and the like i think we need to hear more about what the op likes or needs.
i think the amount of bass response is more preference then requirement. some users need good bass response while others do not.
as for your statement that bass is needed for gaming...some of the best rated gaming cans such as the ad700x/ad900x have almost no bass response and even ever popular hd598 has rather lackluster bass. also look at the very popular pc363d and mmx300 which get rave reviews and yet have rather lackluster bass.
while it may be opinion (but one that seems common online) most people say that bass is more important for music than it is for gaming performance.
it is quite true that many open cans lack good bass but much of this also has to do with them being by definition, open. only a few open cans really have bass levels deep enough to be called "good" in that department. the dt990, hd600 and he-400 for example have more bass than typical.
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before worrying too much about bass levels and the like i think we need to hear more about what the op likes or needs.
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