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yugiohjustin
September 13, 2014 12:00:24 PM
Hello, I have never built a computer so i got a friend to help me (i met him online) but then he disappeared and couldn't contact him again. so im posting to this forum to see if i can refine me build even further so here it is: ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/pmsxxr
What im going for is a 1500$ value gaming desktop with a black and red color scheme. The most important aspect i want is value. i want the best "bang for your buck" so if there's a item that is like twice as good but costs a little bit more than so be it but only if the performance outweighs the price. The second priority is performance. i want to be able to run ANY game at 45-60 frames. nothing less or nothing more. i don't want to spend too much to get frames that i cant even notice. im going with a dual monitor setup but i only want one very good one for everything i do on my computer and one just for like utility's such as Skype, servers, and other things that don't need to look good or be fast. The third priority is the color scheme. i want this computer to be black with bits of red cause i think that would be a cool design. a case that would be cool is the cooler master storm enforcer cause it looks exactly like what i imagined my computer would look like. so look at the build i got there
Current Updated Build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/JCWvsY
What im going for is a 1500$ value gaming desktop with a black and red color scheme. The most important aspect i want is value. i want the best "bang for your buck" so if there's a item that is like twice as good but costs a little bit more than so be it but only if the performance outweighs the price. The second priority is performance. i want to be able to run ANY game at 45-60 frames. nothing less or nothing more. i don't want to spend too much to get frames that i cant even notice. im going with a dual monitor setup but i only want one very good one for everything i do on my computer and one just for like utility's such as Skype, servers, and other things that don't need to look good or be fast. The third priority is the color scheme. i want this computer to be black with bits of red cause i think that would be a cool design. a case that would be cool is the cooler master storm enforcer cause it looks exactly like what i imagined my computer would look like. so look at the build i got there
Current Updated Build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/JCWvsY
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zeyuanfu
September 13, 2014 12:04:10 PM
yugiohjustin
September 13, 2014 12:18:23 PM
zeyuanfu said:
Do you HAVE to go with a red-black scheme? if not, better parts can be found for less.well the first priority is value and the second priority is performance while color scheme is third cause i could like maybe paint the parts that are paintable. if u could find a black/red scheme piece, that would be great but if you find a part thats really good and is a very good value than that would be even better. if you find a really good value part that is black and red than that would be perfect
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zeyuanfu
September 13, 2014 12:21:36 PM
yugiohjustin
September 13, 2014 12:25:03 PM
Jacob McIntosh
September 13, 2014 12:26:31 PM
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zeyuanfu
September 13, 2014 12:32:24 PM
zeyuanfu
September 13, 2014 12:45:32 PM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.38 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.82 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.48 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($724.48 @ NCIX)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-B ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1524.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-13 15:43 EDT-0400
I hope you're not a serious multitasker...
This is as good as it'll get. It would literally EAT your reference build ALIVE. I mainly focused on the CPU and GPU.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.38 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.82 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.48 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($724.48 @ NCIX)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-B ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1524.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-13 15:43 EDT-0400
I hope you're not a serious multitasker...
This is as good as it'll get. It would literally EAT your reference build ALIVE. I mainly focused on the CPU and GPU.
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Jacob McIntosh
September 13, 2014 12:50:52 PM
yugiohjustin
September 13, 2014 6:00:17 PM
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.38 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.82 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.48 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($724.48 @ NCIX)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-B ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1524.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-13 15:43 EDT-0400
I hope you're not a serious multitasker...
This is as good as it'll get. It would literally EAT your reference build ALIVE. I mainly focused on the CPU and GPU.
What is the difference between amd and intel?
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zeyuanfu
September 14, 2014 5:42:19 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.38 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.82 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.48 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($724.48 @ NCIX)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-B ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1524.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-13 15:43 EDT-0400
I hope you're not a serious multitasker...
This is as good as it'll get. It would literally EAT your reference build ALIVE. I mainly focused on the CPU and GPU.
What is the difference between amd and intel?
Lots. Search AMD vs Intel on Tom's Hardware. Can't write a lot as I GTG.
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yugiohjustin
September 14, 2014 9:21:41 PM
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.38 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.82 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.48 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($724.48 @ NCIX)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-B ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1524.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-13 15:43 EDT-0400
I hope you're not a serious multitasker...
This is as good as it'll get. It would literally EAT your reference build ALIVE. I mainly focused on the CPU and GPU.
What is the difference between amd and intel?
Lots. Search AMD vs Intel on Tom's Hardware. Can't write a lot as I GTG.
What i'm most worried about is that i hear that Intel is a brand name and is more expensive than its AMD counterpart and that AMD chips are about half the price of an Intel of the same GHz. I don't want to hear "Intel is better than AMD" cause that's not my question. I just want it to be optimal in the performance/price ratio. What i learned is that Intel cores are stronger than AMD cores but AMD has more of them. Most of my knowledge came from my friend and he preferred AMD for it being cheaper so we put together the whole build around AMD so that their most compatible cause their from the same manufacturer. for example, the AMD CPU (which is an APU i believe and i'm not sure if that increases performance) , the AMD GPU ( of which i find is quite a good graphics card). the price to performance on the graphics card is really good so i want to keep that unless there's something better. The CPU i might change cause in not sure if its suited for what i need. The sites i sometimes get my info from is http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ and http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
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zeyuanfu
September 15, 2014 2:35:17 PM
AMD does have more cores, and Intel is more expensive. As I have plenty of time, I'll explain all I can.
So, Intel uses 22 nm manufacturing tech, which is a lot faster than AMD's 32 nm. AMD compensates by adding more cores and lowering their price. Compare the i5-4690K to something like the FX 8350 and you'll see there's a huge difference.
Intel's LGA 1150 socket is still widely used right now, and will be for Broadwell. AMD's FM2/FM2+ socket is for their APUs, which are aimed for budget users and cannot switch to the FX series once they have enough money. Intel's socket is more unified.
Gotta go, but I hope you understand.
So, Intel uses 22 nm manufacturing tech, which is a lot faster than AMD's 32 nm. AMD compensates by adding more cores and lowering their price. Compare the i5-4690K to something like the FX 8350 and you'll see there's a huge difference.
Intel's LGA 1150 socket is still widely used right now, and will be for Broadwell. AMD's FM2/FM2+ socket is for their APUs, which are aimed for budget users and cannot switch to the FX series once they have enough money. Intel's socket is more unified.
Gotta go, but I hope you understand.
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yugiohjustin
September 15, 2014 6:01:49 PM
zeyuanfu said:
AMD does have more cores, and Intel is more expensive. As I have plenty of time, I'll explain all I can.So, Intel uses 22 nm manufacturing tech, which is a lot faster than AMD's 32 nm. AMD compensates by adding more cores and lowering their price. Compare the i5-4690K to something like the FX 8350 and you'll see there's a huge difference.
Intel's LGA 1150 socket is still widely used right now, and will be for Broadwell. AMD's FM2/FM2+ socket is for their APUs, which are aimed for budget users and cannot switch to the FX series once they have enough money. Intel's socket is more unified.
Gotta go, but I hope you understand.
Well what i'm going for is a gaming PC so i wont need a very over powered CPU cause i don't render 3D models or stuff like that but i still want to be as money efficient as possible and be able to run any game (but not like Crysis 3 on max graphics). Could it be possible to make a AMD build (with the AMD XFX Radeon R9 280X cause it seems really money efficient) and an Intel build of the same price and compare performance (both being as money efficient as possible but if at all possible, keeping the color scheme.
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zeyuanfu
September 17, 2014 3:31:32 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
AMD does have more cores, and Intel is more expensive. As I have plenty of time, I'll explain all I can.So, Intel uses 22 nm manufacturing tech, which is a lot faster than AMD's 32 nm. AMD compensates by adding more cores and lowering their price. Compare the i5-4690K to something like the FX 8350 and you'll see there's a huge difference.
Intel's LGA 1150 socket is still widely used right now, and will be for Broadwell. AMD's FM2/FM2+ socket is for their APUs, which are aimed for budget users and cannot switch to the FX series once they have enough money. Intel's socket is more unified.
Gotta go, but I hope you understand.
Well what i'm going for is a gaming PC so i wont need a very over powered CPU cause i don't render 3D models or stuff like that but i still want to be as money efficient as possible and be able to run any game (but not like Crysis 3 on max graphics). Could it be possible to make a AMD build (with the AMD XFX Radeon R9 280X cause it seems really money efficient) and an Intel build of the same price and compare performance (both being as money efficient as possible but if at all possible, keeping the color scheme.
Depends, if you're running a single-card config, a 780 Ti is the best for you as it's THE best sub-900$ card.
If you'll eventually run SLI/CFX, then the 290X would be nice, but be aware that 290X CFX is weaker than 780 Ti SLI or maybe even 780 SLI. Also, if you can get by on a 750 Ti, you can wait a few days to get the 9xx cards.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $139.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-17 18:31 EDT-0400
Best 750 Ti for your money.
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yugiohjustin
September 17, 2014 8:00:47 PM
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
AMD does have more cores, and Intel is more expensive. As I have plenty of time, I'll explain all I can.So, Intel uses 22 nm manufacturing tech, which is a lot faster than AMD's 32 nm. AMD compensates by adding more cores and lowering their price. Compare the i5-4690K to something like the FX 8350 and you'll see there's a huge difference.
Intel's LGA 1150 socket is still widely used right now, and will be for Broadwell. AMD's FM2/FM2+ socket is for their APUs, which are aimed for budget users and cannot switch to the FX series once they have enough money. Intel's socket is more unified.
Gotta go, but I hope you understand.
Well what i'm going for is a gaming PC so i wont need a very over powered CPU cause i don't render 3D models or stuff like that but i still want to be as money efficient as possible and be able to run any game (but not like Crysis 3 on max graphics). Could it be possible to make a AMD build (with the AMD XFX Radeon R9 280X cause it seems really money efficient) and an Intel build of the same price and compare performance (both being as money efficient as possible but if at all possible, keeping the color scheme.
Depends, if you're running a single-card config, a 780 Ti is the best for you as it's THE best sub-900$ card.
If you'll eventually run SLI/CFX, then the 290X would be nice, but be aware that 290X CFX is weaker than 780 Ti SLI or maybe even 780 SLI. Also, if you can get by on a 750 Ti, you can wait a few days to get the 9xx cards.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $139.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-17 18:31 EDT-0400
Best 750 Ti for your money.
Well i don't want to spend too much money (Geforce 780 Ti) but i don't want to get a weaker GPU (Geforce 750 Ti). Also i might want to go with AMD cause it seems generally more value (I don't like using the work cheap). My friend was an AMD enthusiast so that might be the reason i'm so fond of AMD. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html#alltim... On this site you see the most value GPU's. I don't want it to be at the top of the list cause their pretty weak but i dont want it to be too far down the list cause it gets pretty overpriced. I'm looking for somewhere in between. A perfect equilibrium of power and value. What i'm looking for might not exist but im looking for the closest thing to it.
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zeyuanfu
September 18, 2014 2:47:04 PM
yugiohjustin
September 18, 2014 4:33:23 PM
zeyuanfu said:
Hmm, The 980 supposedly costs about 400-500$. Too expensive? With a 1500$ budget, I'm sure you can fit one in there.well i also need some money for peripherals and such (monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc). also i live in canada so the prices are a bit different here. the 1500$ is more of a guideline and it could be less as long as i can play games at constant 60 fps even during lag spikes but not like running battlefield at 120 fps on max ultra graphics cause most people cant see more than 60 fps. constant 60 fps on max graphics would be beautiful if i can get it for a really good price. i will get a build that in my eyes is good then you explain the capability of the build (or at least an approximate)
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yugiohjustin
September 18, 2014 5:21:08 PM
alright so this is the best build i could up with (or atleast to my knowledge cause i dont know much about computer builds and their parts) http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/YhTTFT
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yugiohjustin
September 21, 2014 9:45:54 PM
zeyuanfu
September 22, 2014 3:04:35 PM
yugiohjustin
September 22, 2014 4:03:34 PM
zeyuanfu said:
The recently released 970 would crush the 270X. Plus, if you spend 10-20$ more, you can get the ACX 2.0 design, which is really cool (pun not intended
).That is a good idea. The only problems i have would be compatibility with case and other components, being bottlenecked by the cpu, etc. Could you help me find out if there would be any problems seeing as this is a AMD build and the 970 is not by AMD.
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zeyuanfu
September 23, 2014 4:20:30 PM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($83.98 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.95 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($91.07 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($398.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.46 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($110.83 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1469.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-23 19:16 EDT-0400
Five bucks less than your AMD build but WAY better. The 4690K is better than the 8320, the 970 is better than the 280X, The air cooler is quieter and cools equally, if not better. You won't ever need 16 GB of RAM unless you're playing three games while streaming a movie.I more than doubled your SSD capacity for about 25 bucks more. I really don't think you would need a 80$ 1 TB drive while a similar one can be found for 60$. The PSU is about 50$ more than the one you chose, but it's WAY better. Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10. I don't think you'll need an ODD nor a Wi-Fi adapter. I also included an OS and your sound card.
And to top it off, I selected all the parts from my list of trusted merchants while keeping the price down.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($83.98 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.95 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($91.07 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($398.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.46 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($110.83 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1469.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-23 19:16 EDT-0400
Five bucks less than your AMD build but WAY better. The 4690K is better than the 8320, the 970 is better than the 280X, The air cooler is quieter and cools equally, if not better. You won't ever need 16 GB of RAM unless you're playing three games while streaming a movie.I more than doubled your SSD capacity for about 25 bucks more. I really don't think you would need a 80$ 1 TB drive while a similar one can be found for 60$. The PSU is about 50$ more than the one you chose, but it's WAY better. Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10. I don't think you'll need an ODD nor a Wi-Fi adapter. I also included an OS and your sound card.
And to top it off, I selected all the parts from my list of trusted merchants while keeping the price down.
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yugiohjustin
September 23, 2014 7:28:49 PM
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($83.98 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.95 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($91.07 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($398.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.46 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($110.83 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1469.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-23 19:16 EDT-0400
Five bucks less than your AMD build but WAY better. The 4690K is better than the 8320, the 970 is better than the 280X, The air cooler is quieter and cools equally, if not better. You won't ever need 16 GB of RAM unless you're playing three games while streaming a movie.I more than doubled your SSD capacity for about 25 bucks more. I really don't think you would need a 80$ 1 TB drive while a similar one can be found for 60$. The PSU is about 50$ more than the one you chose, but it's WAY better. Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10. I don't think you'll need an ODD nor a Wi-Fi adapter. I also included an OS and your sound card.
And to top it off, I selected all the parts from my list of trusted merchants while keeping the price down.
It doesn't seem right to question an expert but im going to anyway so i can get my thoughts out and you can clear them up for me. Let me start with each part.
CPU: the Intel version is 50$ more and has half as many cores but i do agree that this is probably better than the AMD processor.
CPU Cooler: I utterly hate the color of the fans and I like my closed loop cooler
Motherboard: Im not too knowledgeable about motherboards so i cant dispute this.
Memory: I like the color and 8 gigs could possibly be enough.
SSD Storage: The SSD was only going to be for the OS so i just opted for the 120 gig.
HDD Storage: The original HHD was a hybrid drive so it was a bit more expensive but could possibly give more performance than a normal HDD.
Video card: Im not too sure about the difference between the "EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX Video Card" and the " Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card" is but it seems like the EVGA one is more powerful and less expensive.
Case: I LOVE the look of the "Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case" and and its all I've ever dreamed my computer would look like. The case has good airflow and looks fantastic while the "Corsair Graphite Series 230T Orange ATX Mid Tower Case" doesn't have that black/red look that i like and is too boxy looking.
Power Supply: It says you are a "Power supply Expert" but the only differance i see between the two PSU's are that the one you picked is "Gold Certified" (I don't know what that means), Fully Modular (Is it really necessary), and that it is more than 2x more expensive.
Operating System: I'm not too fond of Windows 8 cause i don't use it often and i find it difficult to use. I am very efficient at using windows 7.
Sound Card: I have a hobby of making music with fruity loops and i have pretty good headphones so I hope I can hear the sounds more clearly.
The ODD is for installing drivers with the CD's that come with the parts and for burning music onto CD's for my dad to listen to in the car. The Wi-Fi adapter is there because the router is on the first floor (attached to the phone and stuff) and i live on the second floor.
This is my thoughts on that build and hopefully you can help me understand why you chose those those parts.
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September 24, 2014 9:36:21 AM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($160.63 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.76 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card ($376.83 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.19 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.57 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($104.77 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1459.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 12:23 EDT-0400
Better build?
The 4690K is effectively WAY stronger than the 8320.
A H100i is kinda useless unless you`re an enthusiast who overclocks the life out of his chip. An H60 would suffice. Unless you have a windowed case, you absolutely cannot see the brown color of the Noctua cooler (whose color Ii also hate
).
I upgraded the mobo to a better one that has more features.
I cannot find the Trident X anywhere right now, so I put in some 1866/9 Snipers, whose speed/latency are the sweet spot.
Umm, unless you have NO programs, you`re going to eat through 120GB FAST. Having 256 GB avoids having you buy another SSD.
You do NOT need a hybrid drive unless it`s your main drive.
Right, when I made the build, the Strix was cheaper than the ACX.
OK, have your way with the case
If you absolutely want the B2, I cannot stop you from getting it, but please take the time to read these two reviews from one of the Internet`s TOP PSU reviewers:
B2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9/10
G2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10
There are more differences than the rating and the modularness:
The G2 has a 10 year warranty, I repeat, a 10 YEAR WARRANTY.
The G2 is based on the Super Flower Leadex Gold platform while the B2 is based on the Golden Green Platform.
Get the B2 if you want, I have nothing against it.
Sure, get Windows 7 if you wish.
The ODD is a must, then.
If you have an ethernet cable connecting the router to the second floor, then a wireless card is NOT necessary as the mobo has an ethernet adapter built-in (and a pretty dang good one, I must say)
If you have any more issues, ask away!
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($160.63 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.76 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card ($376.83 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.19 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.57 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($104.77 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1459.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 12:23 EDT-0400
Better build?
The 4690K is effectively WAY stronger than the 8320.
A H100i is kinda useless unless you`re an enthusiast who overclocks the life out of his chip. An H60 would suffice. Unless you have a windowed case, you absolutely cannot see the brown color of the Noctua cooler (whose color Ii also hate
).I upgraded the mobo to a better one that has more features.
I cannot find the Trident X anywhere right now, so I put in some 1866/9 Snipers, whose speed/latency are the sweet spot.
Umm, unless you have NO programs, you`re going to eat through 120GB FAST. Having 256 GB avoids having you buy another SSD.
You do NOT need a hybrid drive unless it`s your main drive.
Right, when I made the build, the Strix was cheaper than the ACX.
OK, have your way with the case
If you absolutely want the B2, I cannot stop you from getting it, but please take the time to read these two reviews from one of the Internet`s TOP PSU reviewers:
B2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9/10
G2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10
There are more differences than the rating and the modularness:
The G2 has a 10 year warranty, I repeat, a 10 YEAR WARRANTY.
The G2 is based on the Super Flower Leadex Gold platform while the B2 is based on the Golden Green Platform.
Get the B2 if you want, I have nothing against it.
Sure, get Windows 7 if you wish.
The ODD is a must, then.
If you have an ethernet cable connecting the router to the second floor, then a wireless card is NOT necessary as the mobo has an ethernet adapter built-in (and a pretty dang good one, I must say)
If you have any more issues, ask away!
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September 24, 2014 12:03:19 PM
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($160.63 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.76 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card ($376.83 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.19 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.57 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($104.77 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1459.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 12:23 EDT-0400
Better build?
The 4690K is effectively WAY stronger than the 8320.
A H100i is kinda useless unless you`re an enthusiast who overclocks the life out of his chip. An H60 would suffice. Unless you have a windowed case, you absolutely cannot see the brown color of the Noctua cooler (whose color Ii also hate
).I upgraded the mobo to a better one that has more features.
I cannot find the Trident X anywhere right now, so I put in some 1866/9 Snipers, whose speed/latency are the sweet spot.
Umm, unless you have NO programs, you`re going to eat through 120GB FAST. Having 256 GB avoids having you buy another SSD.
You do NOT need a hybrid drive unless it`s your main drive.
Right, when I made the build, the Strix was cheaper than the ACX.
OK, have your way with the case
If you absolutely want the B2, I cannot stop you from getting it, but please take the time to read these two reviews from one of the Internet`s TOP PSU reviewers:
B2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9/10
G2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10
There are more differences than the rating and the modularness:
The G2 has a 10 year warranty, I repeat, a 10 YEAR WARRANTY.
The G2 is based on the Super Flower Leadex Gold platform while the B2 is based on the Golden Green Platform.
Get the B2 if you want, I have nothing against it.
Sure, get Windows 7 if you wish.
The ODD is a must, then.
If you have an ethernet cable connecting the router to the second floor, then a wireless card is NOT necessary as the mobo has an ethernet adapter built-in (and a pretty dang good one, I must say)
If you have any more issues, ask away!
The hybrid drive was going to be my main drive (games, movies, pictures etc.) and the SSD was going to be for the OS and just the OS (unless by installing games onto the hybrid drive adds some files to the OS then i dont think i will need a 256 gig) or at least that was the plan. the h100 was to be installed in the top radiator part of the case and who said I wasn't going to overclock the life out of my cpu
(im just kidding but i want to keep it as cool as possible. I've had too many problems with overheating in the past). Is the new motherboard's features worth 50$ more? I do agree that the i5-4690K is better than the AMD FX-8320 but is it 100$ better than it? The whole build was raised by about 100$, so think about if the price is worth the performance it grants. So far the graphics card and the cpu seem like they are really good, now we need to get the rest of the parts to be just as value as possible so the price stays down and the performance goes up
So that are my thoughts for now so elaborate
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September 24, 2014 1:45:23 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($160.63 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.76 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card ($376.83 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.19 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.57 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($104.77 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1459.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 12:23 EDT-0400
Better build?
The 4690K is effectively WAY stronger than the 8320.
A H100i is kinda useless unless you`re an enthusiast who overclocks the life out of his chip. An H60 would suffice. Unless you have a windowed case, you absolutely cannot see the brown color of the Noctua cooler (whose color Ii also hate
).I upgraded the mobo to a better one that has more features.
I cannot find the Trident X anywhere right now, so I put in some 1866/9 Snipers, whose speed/latency are the sweet spot.
Umm, unless you have NO programs, you`re going to eat through 120GB FAST. Having 256 GB avoids having you buy another SSD.
You do NOT need a hybrid drive unless it`s your main drive.
Right, when I made the build, the Strix was cheaper than the ACX.
OK, have your way with the case
If you absolutely want the B2, I cannot stop you from getting it, but please take the time to read these two reviews from one of the Internet`s TOP PSU reviewers:
B2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9/10
G2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10
There are more differences than the rating and the modularness:
The G2 has a 10 year warranty, I repeat, a 10 YEAR WARRANTY.
The G2 is based on the Super Flower Leadex Gold platform while the B2 is based on the Golden Green Platform.
Get the B2 if you want, I have nothing against it.
Sure, get Windows 7 if you wish.
The ODD is a must, then.
If you have an ethernet cable connecting the router to the second floor, then a wireless card is NOT necessary as the mobo has an ethernet adapter built-in (and a pretty dang good one, I must say)
If you have any more issues, ask away!
The hybrid drive was going to be my main drive (games, movies, pictures etc.) and the SSD was going to be for the OS and just the OS (unless by installing games onto the hybrid drive adds some files to the OS then i dont think i will need a 256 gig) or at least that was the plan. the h100 was to be installed in the top radiator part of the case and who said I wasn't going to overclock the life out of my cpu
(im just kidding but i want to keep it as cool as possible. I've had too many problems with overheating in the past). Is the new motherboard's features worth 50$ more? I do agree that the i5-4690K is better than the AMD FX-8320 but is it 100$ better than it? The whole build was raised by about 100$, so think about if the price is worth the performance it grants. So far the graphics card and the cpu seem like they are really good, now we need to get the rest of the parts to be just as value as possible so the price stays down and the performance goes up
So that are my thoughts for now so elaborate
OK, so a hybrid drive it is. If it fails, don't blame me (hybrid drives are kinda more likely to fail, or so I've heard).
I would still say the Noctua cooler. Take a look:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h100i-elc240-seidon...
Air coolers are just chunks of aluminum and copper and a fan. Point. CLC kits are way more complicated. I wouldn't risk having coolant leak from the pump or tubes. Would you? Pumps also fail and it takes a lot of money to either rplace or repair them. Fans, on the other hand, are unlikely to fail (especially not Noctua fans, which are one of the best on the planet) and even if it does, they cost way less than pumps or tubes.
The 4690K is WAY better than the A8 in your build. So good I'm going to say the 4690K stomps on the A8 and then eats it alive. Somehow your build price went up to 1990$?
The motherboard is one of my personal favorites. Sure, the Z97 Anniversary is great, but it:
1, Has NO (or almost no) features
2, Does NOT support SLI/CFX (unless you pair PCIe x1 cards)
I would say Z97-A or even Maximus VII Hero:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($220.48 @ NCIX)
Total: $220.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 16:45 EDT-0400
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September 24, 2014 2:33:25 PM
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($160.63 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.76 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card ($376.83 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.19 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.57 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($104.77 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1459.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 12:23 EDT-0400
Better build?
The 4690K is effectively WAY stronger than the 8320.
A H100i is kinda useless unless you`re an enthusiast who overclocks the life out of his chip. An H60 would suffice. Unless you have a windowed case, you absolutely cannot see the brown color of the Noctua cooler (whose color Ii also hate
).I upgraded the mobo to a better one that has more features.
I cannot find the Trident X anywhere right now, so I put in some 1866/9 Snipers, whose speed/latency are the sweet spot.
Umm, unless you have NO programs, you`re going to eat through 120GB FAST. Having 256 GB avoids having you buy another SSD.
You do NOT need a hybrid drive unless it`s your main drive.
Right, when I made the build, the Strix was cheaper than the ACX.
OK, have your way with the case
If you absolutely want the B2, I cannot stop you from getting it, but please take the time to read these two reviews from one of the Internet`s TOP PSU reviewers:
B2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9/10
G2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10
There are more differences than the rating and the modularness:
The G2 has a 10 year warranty, I repeat, a 10 YEAR WARRANTY.
The G2 is based on the Super Flower Leadex Gold platform while the B2 is based on the Golden Green Platform.
Get the B2 if you want, I have nothing against it.
Sure, get Windows 7 if you wish.
The ODD is a must, then.
If you have an ethernet cable connecting the router to the second floor, then a wireless card is NOT necessary as the mobo has an ethernet adapter built-in (and a pretty dang good one, I must say)
If you have any more issues, ask away!
The hybrid drive was going to be my main drive (games, movies, pictures etc.) and the SSD was going to be for the OS and just the OS (unless by installing games onto the hybrid drive adds some files to the OS then i dont think i will need a 256 gig) or at least that was the plan. the h100 was to be installed in the top radiator part of the case and who said I wasn't going to overclock the life out of my cpu
(im just kidding but i want to keep it as cool as possible. I've had too many problems with overheating in the past). Is the new motherboard's features worth 50$ more? I do agree that the i5-4690K is better than the AMD FX-8320 but is it 100$ better than it? The whole build was raised by about 100$, so think about if the price is worth the performance it grants. So far the graphics card and the cpu seem like they are really good, now we need to get the rest of the parts to be just as value as possible so the price stays down and the performance goes up
So that are my thoughts for now so elaborate
OK, so a hybrid drive it is. If it fails, don't blame me (hybrid drives are kinda more likely to fail, or so I've heard).
I would still say the Noctua cooler. Take a look:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h100i-elc240-seidon...
Air coolers are just chunks of aluminum and copper and a fan. Point. CLC kits are way more complicated. I wouldn't risk having coolant leak from the pump or tubes. Would you? Pumps also fail and it takes a lot of money to either rplace or repair them. Fans, on the other hand, are unlikely to fail (especially not Noctua fans, which are one of the best on the planet) and even if it does, they cost way less than pumps or tubes.
The 4690K is WAY better than the A8 in your build. So good I'm going to say the 4690K stomps on the A8 and then eats it alive. Somehow your build price went up to 1990$?
The motherboard is one of my personal favorites. Sure, the Z97 Anniversary is great, but it:
1, Has NO (or almost no) features
2, Does NOT support SLI/CFX (unless you pair PCIe x1 cards)
I would say Z97-A or even Maximus VII Hero:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($220.48 @ NCIX)
Total: $220.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 16:45 EDT-0400
Well for one the build that i made and then updated is here:http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/JCWvsY
and it contains a AMD FX-8320 and not the A8. Do you have proof that hybrid drives fail more often then HDD and if so can you send me the link. CLC are not as likely to leak as custom liquid coolers cause their sealed in tight and are not supposed to come apart anytime. but yes cause they have more moving parts, they have more points of failure than a traditional air cooler (also the h100i is one of the best CLC so i dont think it would get such good ratings if it failed alot). I'm not too sure what features a motherboard should have but with the 970 i dont think i will need to SLI. what features would be useful for me (a regular league and minecraft player) on the motherboard that would make a difference?
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September 24, 2014 2:45:16 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($160.63 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.76 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card ($376.83 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.19 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.57 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($104.77 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1459.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 12:23 EDT-0400
Better build?
The 4690K is effectively WAY stronger than the 8320.
A H100i is kinda useless unless you`re an enthusiast who overclocks the life out of his chip. An H60 would suffice. Unless you have a windowed case, you absolutely cannot see the brown color of the Noctua cooler (whose color Ii also hate
).I upgraded the mobo to a better one that has more features.
I cannot find the Trident X anywhere right now, so I put in some 1866/9 Snipers, whose speed/latency are the sweet spot.
Umm, unless you have NO programs, you`re going to eat through 120GB FAST. Having 256 GB avoids having you buy another SSD.
You do NOT need a hybrid drive unless it`s your main drive.
Right, when I made the build, the Strix was cheaper than the ACX.
OK, have your way with the case
If you absolutely want the B2, I cannot stop you from getting it, but please take the time to read these two reviews from one of the Internet`s TOP PSU reviewers:
B2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9/10
G2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10
There are more differences than the rating and the modularness:
The G2 has a 10 year warranty, I repeat, a 10 YEAR WARRANTY.
The G2 is based on the Super Flower Leadex Gold platform while the B2 is based on the Golden Green Platform.
Get the B2 if you want, I have nothing against it.
Sure, get Windows 7 if you wish.
The ODD is a must, then.
If you have an ethernet cable connecting the router to the second floor, then a wireless card is NOT necessary as the mobo has an ethernet adapter built-in (and a pretty dang good one, I must say)
If you have any more issues, ask away!
The hybrid drive was going to be my main drive (games, movies, pictures etc.) and the SSD was going to be for the OS and just the OS (unless by installing games onto the hybrid drive adds some files to the OS then i dont think i will need a 256 gig) or at least that was the plan. the h100 was to be installed in the top radiator part of the case and who said I wasn't going to overclock the life out of my cpu
(im just kidding but i want to keep it as cool as possible. I've had too many problems with overheating in the past). Is the new motherboard's features worth 50$ more? I do agree that the i5-4690K is better than the AMD FX-8320 but is it 100$ better than it? The whole build was raised by about 100$, so think about if the price is worth the performance it grants. So far the graphics card and the cpu seem like they are really good, now we need to get the rest of the parts to be just as value as possible so the price stays down and the performance goes up
So that are my thoughts for now so elaborate
OK, so a hybrid drive it is. If it fails, don't blame me (hybrid drives are kinda more likely to fail, or so I've heard).
I would still say the Noctua cooler. Take a look:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h100i-elc240-seidon...
Air coolers are just chunks of aluminum and copper and a fan. Point. CLC kits are way more complicated. I wouldn't risk having coolant leak from the pump or tubes. Would you? Pumps also fail and it takes a lot of money to either rplace or repair them. Fans, on the other hand, are unlikely to fail (especially not Noctua fans, which are one of the best on the planet) and even if it does, they cost way less than pumps or tubes.
The 4690K is WAY better than the A8 in your build. So good I'm going to say the 4690K stomps on the A8 and then eats it alive. Somehow your build price went up to 1990$?
The motherboard is one of my personal favorites. Sure, the Z97 Anniversary is great, but it:
1, Has NO (or almost no) features
2, Does NOT support SLI/CFX (unless you pair PCIe x1 cards)
I would say Z97-A or even Maximus VII Hero:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($220.48 @ NCIX)
Total: $220.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-24 16:45 EDT-0400
Well for one the build that i made and then updated is here:http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/JCWvsY
and it contains a AMD FX-8320 and not the A8. Do you have proof that hybrid drives fail more often then HDD and if so can you send me the link. CLC are not as likely to leak as custom liquid coolers cause their sealed in tight and are not supposed to come apart anytime. but yes cause they have more moving parts, they have more points of failure than a traditional air cooler (also the h100i is one of the best CLC so i dont think it would get such good ratings if it failed alot). I'm not too sure what features a motherboard should have but with the 970 i dont think i will need to SLI. what features would be useful for me (a regular league and minecraft player) on the motherboard that would make a difference?
OK, you might want to edit your first post.
I didn't find proof for failure, but:
Where hybrid products falter is with new data. When writing new data or accessing infrequently used bits, hybrid products perform just like a standard hard drive, and new hybrid drives have a "break-in period" while the software learns which data to cache. Due to the fact that hybrid products rely on caching software, they can also be somewhat more difficult to configure.
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But since, these hybrid drives rely on software for work functions, they are hard to configure than usual hard drives.
If your software fails, you're kinda screwed...
Take a look at some of these links:https://www.google.ca/search?q=corsair+h100i+failure&oq...
I would still go air.
If you don't SLI, then the Z97 Anniversary is for you. If you do, and plan to use the Z97-A's features, then the Z97-A is for you.
The Z97-A has:
EPU
TPU
Auto-OC
And loads of other stuff.
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September 24, 2014 6:04:47 PM
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yugiohjustin said:
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($261.42 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.81 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($160.63 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($90.76 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.23 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.97 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX Video Card ($376.83 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.19 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.57 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($104.77 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($31.50 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1459.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Better build?
The 4690K is effectively WAY stronger than the 8320.
A H100i is kinda useless unless you`re an enthusiast who overclocks the life out of his chip. An H60 would suffice. Unless you have a windowed case, you absolutely cannot see the brown color of the Noctua cooler (whose color Ii also hate
).I upgraded the mobo to a better one that has more features.
I cannot find the Trident X anywhere right now, so I put in some 1866/9 Snipers, whose speed/latency are the sweet spot.
Umm, unless you have NO programs, you`re going to eat through 120GB FAST. Having 256 GB avoids having you buy another SSD.
You do NOT need a hybrid drive unless it`s your main drive.
Right, when I made the build, the Strix was cheaper than the ACX.
OK, have your way with the case
If you absolutely want the B2, I cannot stop you from getting it, but please take the time to read these two reviews from one of the Internet`s TOP PSU reviewers:
B2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9/10
G2:http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Jonnyguru gave it a 9.8/10
There are more differences than the rating and the modularness:
The G2 has a 10 year warranty, I repeat, a 10 YEAR WARRANTY.
The G2 is based on the Super Flower Leadex Gold platform while the B2 is based on the Golden Green Platform.
Get the B2 if you want, I have nothing against it.
Sure, get Windows 7 if you wish.
The ODD is a must, then.
If you have an ethernet cable connecting the router to the second floor, then a wireless card is NOT necessary as the mobo has an ethernet adapter built-in (and a pretty dang good one, I must say)
If you have any more issues, ask away!
The hybrid drive was going to be my main drive (games, movies, pictures etc.) and the SSD was going to be for the OS and just the OS (unless by installing games onto the hybrid drive adds some files to the OS then i dont think i will need a 256 gig) or at least that was the plan. the h100 was to be installed in the top radiator part of the case and who said I wasn't going to overclock the life out of my cpu
(im just kidding but i want to keep it as cool as possible. I've had too many problems with overheating in the past). Is the new motherboard's features worth 50$ more? I do agree that the i5-4690K is better than the AMD FX-8320 but is it 100$ better than it? The whole build was raised by about 100$, so think about if the price is worth the performance it grants. So far the graphics card and the cpu seem like they are really good, now we need to get the rest of the parts to be just as value as possible so the price stays down and the performance goes up
So that are my thoughts for now so elaborate
OK, so a hybrid drive it is. If it fails, don't blame me (hybrid drives are kinda more likely to fail, or so I've heard).
I would still say the Noctua cooler. Take a look:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h100i-elc240-seidon...
Air coolers are just chunks of aluminum and copper and a fan. Point. CLC kits are way more complicated. I wouldn't risk having coolant leak from the pump or tubes. Would you? Pumps also fail and it takes a lot of money to either rplace or repair them. Fans, on the other hand, are unlikely to fail (especially not Noctua fans, which are one of the best on the planet) and even if it does, they cost way less than pumps or tubes.
The 4690K is WAY better than the A8 in your build. So good I'm going to say the 4690K stomps on the A8 and then eats it alive. Somehow your build price went up to 1990$?
The motherboard is one of my personal favorites. Sure, the Z97 Anniversary is great, but it:
1, Has NO (or almost no) features
2, Does NOT support SLI/CFX (unless you pair PCIe x1 cards)
I would say Z97-A or even Maximus VII Hero:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($220.48 @ NCIX)
Total: $220.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Well for one the build that i made and then updated is here:http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/JCWvsY
and it contains a AMD FX-8320 and not the A8. Do you have proof that hybrid drives fail more often then HDD and if so can you send me the link. CLC are not as likely to leak as custom liquid coolers cause their sealed in tight and are not supposed to come apart anytime. but yes cause they have more moving parts, they have more points of failure than a traditional air cooler (also the h100i is one of the best CLC so i dont think it would get such good ratings if it failed alot). I'm not too sure what features a motherboard should have but with the 970 i dont think i will need to SLI. what features would be useful for me (a regular league and minecraft player) on the motherboard that would make a difference?
OK, you might want to edit your first post.
I didn't find proof for failure, but:
Where hybrid products falter is with new data. When writing new data or accessing infrequently used bits, hybrid products perform just like a standard hard drive, and new hybrid drives have a "break-in period" while the software learns which data to cache. Due to the fact that hybrid products rely on caching software, they can also be somewhat more difficult to configure.
and
But since, these hybrid drives rely on software for work functions, they are hard to configure than usual hard drives.
If your software fails, you're kinda screwed...
Take a look at some of these links:https://www.google.ca/search?q=corsair+h100i+failure&oq...
I would still go air.
If you don't SLI, then the Z97 Anniversary is for you. If you do, and plan to use the Z97-A's features, then the Z97-A is for you.
The Z97-A has:
EPU
TPU
Auto-OC
And loads of other stuff.
Idk what any of those features do (can you explain some of them). Can you pick me out a good value (and efficient) CPU cooler (black, red, or both. the "Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283" looks really cool). So if you don't want me to get a hybrid then the traditional 1TB HDD will suffice (I mostly wanted it cause it seemed cool). Also i can try to get my router upstairs so i can play with ethernet.
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September 25, 2014 9:48:59 AM
I`m going to stop clicking on Reply to as the posts are getting too long
The:
EPU manages the energy consumption of your build, so if you`re strapped for cash (VERY unlikely), you can manage how much energy your computer goes through
TPU manages the temps of your computer, and all of the fans stuff
Auto-OC lets you select your cooler type and your desired OC speed, and then in 20-30 minutes, sets up a perfectly stable OC for you
You can check out everything else on http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/
The CM Hyper 212 EVO has the best price/performance ratio, but the QC is bad. Get the Dark Knight if you want as it`s still a great cooler.
If you want a dybrid drive, as I said, go for it if you absolutely want it. Nothing`s going to stop me from letting you spend another 30$.
The:
EPU manages the energy consumption of your build, so if you`re strapped for cash (VERY unlikely), you can manage how much energy your computer goes through
TPU manages the temps of your computer, and all of the fans stuff
Auto-OC lets you select your cooler type and your desired OC speed, and then in 20-30 minutes, sets up a perfectly stable OC for you
You can check out everything else on http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/
The CM Hyper 212 EVO has the best price/performance ratio, but the QC is bad. Get the Dark Knight if you want as it`s still a great cooler.
If you want a dybrid drive, as I said, go for it if you absolutely want it. Nothing`s going to stop me from letting you spend another 30$.
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September 25, 2014 1:34:41 PM
zeyuanfu said:
I`m going to stop clicking on Reply to as the posts are getting too long
The:
EPU manages the energy consumption of your build, so if you`re strapped for cash (VERY unlikely), you can manage how much energy your computer goes through
TPU manages the temps of your computer, and all of the fans stuff
Auto-OC lets you select your cooler type and your desired OC speed, and then in 20-30 minutes, sets up a perfectly stable OC for you
You can check out everything else on http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/
The CM Hyper 212 EVO has the best price/performance ratio, but the QC is bad. Get the Dark Knight if you want as it`s still a great cooler.
If you want a dybrid drive, as I said, go for it if you absolutely want it. Nothing`s going to stop me from letting you spend another 30$.
How is the onboard audio on the Asus Z97-A compaired to a Asus Xonar DG Sound card.
Which is better performance wise, "CM Hyper 212 EVO" or "Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283" (also i dont know what QC means either)
If i get the Z97-A, i wont need a hybrid drive cause the board comes with "Intel® Smart Response Technology
SSD speed with HDD capacity" which uses a bit of the SSD as a cache for stuff which would be great.
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September 25, 2014 1:42:35 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
I`m going to stop clicking on Reply to as the posts are getting too long
The:
EPU manages the energy consumption of your build, so if you`re strapped for cash (VERY unlikely), you can manage how much energy your computer goes through
TPU manages the temps of your computer, and all of the fans stuff
Auto-OC lets you select your cooler type and your desired OC speed, and then in 20-30 minutes, sets up a perfectly stable OC for you
You can check out everything else on http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/
The CM Hyper 212 EVO has the best price/performance ratio, but the QC is bad. Get the Dark Knight if you want as it`s still a great cooler.
If you want a dybrid drive, as I said, go for it if you absolutely want it. Nothing`s going to stop me from letting you spend another 30$.
How is the onboard audio on the Asus Z97-A compaired to a Asus Xonar DG Sound card.
Which is better performance wise, "CM Hyper 212 EVO" or "Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283" (also i dont know what QC means either)
If i get the Z97-A, i wont need a hybrid drive cause the board comes with "Intel® Smart Response Technology
SSD speed with HDD capacity" which uses a bit of the SSD as a cache for stuff which would be great.
Screw the not clicking on the Reply to button
Are you an audiophile?
If yes, the Xonar would be the choice as it has slightly better sound quality
If not, then the onboard would be better as you probably won`t notice the difference anyways.
With your budget of at least 1500$, I`d say Dark Knight as it offers better cooling performance. QC means Quality Control. the folks at CM (that stands for Cooler Master) make the 212 EVO cheap, but stuff like not threading the screws can happen, and I don`t think you would want that to happen to you.
You wouldn`t need a hybrid drive as the Intel Smart respense technology is for SSDs, and not hybrid drives. if you want to use the "SSD" in the hybrid drive for SRT, that won`t work as the SSD is kinda embedded into the drive.
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September 25, 2014 1:55:33 PM
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
I`m going to stop clicking on Reply to as the posts are getting too long
The:
EPU manages the energy consumption of your build, so if you`re strapped for cash (VERY unlikely), you can manage how much energy your computer goes through
TPU manages the temps of your computer, and all of the fans stuff
Auto-OC lets you select your cooler type and your desired OC speed, and then in 20-30 minutes, sets up a perfectly stable OC for you
You can check out everything else on http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/
The CM Hyper 212 EVO has the best price/performance ratio, but the QC is bad. Get the Dark Knight if you want as it`s still a great cooler.
If you want a dybrid drive, as I said, go for it if you absolutely want it. Nothing`s going to stop me from letting you spend another 30$.
How is the onboard audio on the Asus Z97-A compaired to a Asus Xonar DG Sound card.
Which is better performance wise, "CM Hyper 212 EVO" or "Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283" (also i dont know what QC means either)
If i get the Z97-A, i wont need a hybrid drive cause the board comes with "Intel® Smart Response Technology
SSD speed with HDD capacity" which uses a bit of the SSD as a cache for stuff which would be great.
Screw the not clicking on the Reply to button
Are you an audiophile?
If yes, the Xonar would be the choice as it has slightly better sound quality
If not, then the onboard would be better as you probably won`t notice the difference anyways.
With your budget of at least 1500$, I`d say Dark Knight as it offers better cooling performance. QC means Quality Control. the folks at CM (that stands for Cooler Master) make the 212 EVO cheap, but stuff like not threading the screws can happen, and I don`t think you would want that to happen to you.
You wouldn`t need a hybrid drive as the Intel Smart respense technology is for SSDs, and not hybrid drives. if you want to use the "SSD" in the hybrid drive for SRT, that won`t work as the SSD is kinda embedded into the drive.
As i said before, I do have a hobby of making music so i could be an audiophile
but what is the difference between the Asus Xonar DG and DGX and how would that fit in the motherboard (seeing as there is no PCI x1 slots, only PCI-E x1 slots)What i was talking about the hybrid drive, I was talking about how if i got the Z97 with "Intel® Smart Response Technology SSD speed with HDD capacity" is that the 1TB HDD (non-hybrid) would cache from the 256GB SSD, not the hybrid would cache with itself. So basically what you said except i said it first
So i will get the Dark Knight in the build cause it looks really cool and its quite effective.
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September 25, 2014 2:04:43 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
I`m going to stop clicking on Reply to as the posts are getting too long
The:
EPU manages the energy consumption of your build, so if you`re strapped for cash (VERY unlikely), you can manage how much energy your computer goes through
TPU manages the temps of your computer, and all of the fans stuff
Auto-OC lets you select your cooler type and your desired OC speed, and then in 20-30 minutes, sets up a perfectly stable OC for you
You can check out everything else on http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/
The CM Hyper 212 EVO has the best price/performance ratio, but the QC is bad. Get the Dark Knight if you want as it`s still a great cooler.
If you want a dybrid drive, as I said, go for it if you absolutely want it. Nothing`s going to stop me from letting you spend another 30$.
How is the onboard audio on the Asus Z97-A compaired to a Asus Xonar DG Sound card.
Which is better performance wise, "CM Hyper 212 EVO" or "Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283" (also i dont know what QC means either)
If i get the Z97-A, i wont need a hybrid drive cause the board comes with "Intel® Smart Response Technology
SSD speed with HDD capacity" which uses a bit of the SSD as a cache for stuff which would be great.
Screw the not clicking on the Reply to button
Are you an audiophile?
If yes, the Xonar would be the choice as it has slightly better sound quality
If not, then the onboard would be better as you probably won`t notice the difference anyways.
With your budget of at least 1500$, I`d say Dark Knight as it offers better cooling performance. QC means Quality Control. the folks at CM (that stands for Cooler Master) make the 212 EVO cheap, but stuff like not threading the screws can happen, and I don`t think you would want that to happen to you.
You wouldn`t need a hybrid drive as the Intel Smart respense technology is for SSDs, and not hybrid drives. if you want to use the "SSD" in the hybrid drive for SRT, that won`t work as the SSD is kinda embedded into the drive.
As i said before, I do have a hobby of making music so i could be an audiophile
but what is the difference between the Asus Xonar DG and DGX and how would that fit in the motherboard (seeing as there is no PCI x1 slots, only PCI-E x1 slots)What i was talking about the hybrid drive, I was talking about how if i got the Z97 with "Intel® Smart Response Technology SSD speed with HDD capacity" is that the 1TB HDD (non-hybrid) would cache from the 256GB SSD, not the hybrid would cache with itself. So basically what you said except i said it first
So i will get the Dark Knight in the build cause it looks really cool and its quite effective.
The only difference as far as I know (which is a lot
) is that the DG is PCI and the DGX is PCIe. Both can be used.If you don`t mind losing some SSD space, I`d highly recommend using SRT, although you can buy another SSD specially for SRT:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $49.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Good choice for the Dark Knight
You can boost its performance by adding another fan, Noctua preferably:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 109.9 CFM 120mm Fan ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $27.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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September 25, 2014 2:16:19 PM
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
I`m going to stop clicking on Reply to as the posts are getting too long
The:
EPU manages the energy consumption of your build, so if you`re strapped for cash (VERY unlikely), you can manage how much energy your computer goes through
TPU manages the temps of your computer, and all of the fans stuff
Auto-OC lets you select your cooler type and your desired OC speed, and then in 20-30 minutes, sets up a perfectly stable OC for you
You can check out everything else on http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/
The CM Hyper 212 EVO has the best price/performance ratio, but the QC is bad. Get the Dark Knight if you want as it`s still a great cooler.
If you want a dybrid drive, as I said, go for it if you absolutely want it. Nothing`s going to stop me from letting you spend another 30$.
How is the onboard audio on the Asus Z97-A compaired to a Asus Xonar DG Sound card.
Which is better performance wise, "CM Hyper 212 EVO" or "Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283" (also i dont know what QC means either)
If i get the Z97-A, i wont need a hybrid drive cause the board comes with "Intel® Smart Response Technology
SSD speed with HDD capacity" which uses a bit of the SSD as a cache for stuff which would be great.
Screw the not clicking on the Reply to button
Are you an audiophile?
If yes, the Xonar would be the choice as it has slightly better sound quality
If not, then the onboard would be better as you probably won`t notice the difference anyways.
With your budget of at least 1500$, I`d say Dark Knight as it offers better cooling performance. QC means Quality Control. the folks at CM (that stands for Cooler Master) make the 212 EVO cheap, but stuff like not threading the screws can happen, and I don`t think you would want that to happen to you.
You wouldn`t need a hybrid drive as the Intel Smart respense technology is for SSDs, and not hybrid drives. if you want to use the "SSD" in the hybrid drive for SRT, that won`t work as the SSD is kinda embedded into the drive.
As i said before, I do have a hobby of making music so i could be an audiophile
but what is the difference between the Asus Xonar DG and DGX and how would that fit in the motherboard (seeing as there is no PCI x1 slots, only PCI-E x1 slots)What i was talking about the hybrid drive, I was talking about how if i got the Z97 with "Intel® Smart Response Technology SSD speed with HDD capacity" is that the 1TB HDD (non-hybrid) would cache from the 256GB SSD, not the hybrid would cache with itself. So basically what you said except i said it first
So i will get the Dark Knight in the build cause it looks really cool and its quite effective.
The only difference as far as I know (which is a lot
) is that the DG is PCI and the DGX is PCIe. Both can be used.If you don`t mind losing some SSD space, I`d highly recommend using SRT, although you can buy another SSD specially for SRT:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $49.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-25 17:03 EDT-0400
Good choice for the Dark Knight
You can boost its performance by adding another fan, Noctua preferably:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 109.9 CFM 120mm Fan ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $27.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-25 17:04 EDT-0400
What does SRT mean?
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September 25, 2014 4:06:15 PM
yugiohjustin
September 25, 2014 4:20:25 PM
zeyuanfu
September 25, 2014 4:31:13 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
Umm, Smart Response Technology? I like using abbreviations
So how big of a SSD would i need for SRT and maybe a little more (just incase windows increases in size for reasons)
SRT can use a max of 64 GB of which you can either take from your main SSD or an auxiliary SSD.
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September 25, 2014 4:33:37 PM
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
Umm, Smart Response Technology? I like using abbreviations
So how big of a SSD would i need for SRT and maybe a little more (just incase windows increases in size for reasons)
SRT can use a max of 64 GB of which you can either take from your main SSD or an auxiliary SSD.
Could i have a 128GB SRT-Ready SSD for OS and Cache?
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September 25, 2014 4:46:44 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
Umm, Smart Response Technology? I like using abbreviations
So how big of a SSD would i need for SRT and maybe a little more (just incase windows increases in size for reasons)
SRT can use a max of 64 GB of which you can either take from your main SSD or an auxiliary SSD.
Could i have a 128GB SRT-Ready SSD for OS and Cache?
Sure thing, but 64 GB is too small for the OS and the stuff you put inside. Try this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-dri...
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September 25, 2014 4:54:45 PM
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
Umm, Smart Response Technology? I like using abbreviations
So how big of a SSD would i need for SRT and maybe a little more (just incase windows increases in size for reasons)
SRT can use a max of 64 GB of which you can either take from your main SSD or an auxiliary SSD.
Could i have a 128GB SRT-Ready SSD for OS and Cache?
Sure thing, but 64 GB is too small for the OS and the stuff you put inside. Try this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-dri...
Seems kinda expensive. And also can you use a PCI x1 (Asus Xonar DG) in a PCI-E x1 slot?
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September 25, 2014 4:56:28 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
Umm, Smart Response Technology? I like using abbreviations
So how big of a SSD would i need for SRT and maybe a little more (just incase windows increases in size for reasons)
SRT can use a max of 64 GB of which you can either take from your main SSD or an auxiliary SSD.
Could i have a 128GB SRT-Ready SSD for OS and Cache?
Sure thing, but 64 GB is too small for the OS and the stuff you put inside. Try this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-dri...
Seems kinda expensive. And also can you use a PCI x1 (Asus Xonar DG) in a PCI-E x1 slot?
If you`re going to use a single SSD for OS, SRT and cache, better make it big or else you`ll run out of space in no time. You could also only use 16 GB of SRT, though.
Of course, PCIe x1 cards are designed for x1 slots, but you can also plus them in x4, x8 and x16 slots.
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September 25, 2014 4:56:29 PM
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OK, well, to achieve optimal value/price ratios, a non red-black scheme is kinda needed... Check out the parts I will post and all of their features (cough cough Asus Z97-A).zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.38 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.82 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.48 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($724.48 @ NCIX)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-B ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1524.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I hope you're not a serious multitasker...
This is as good as it'll get. It would literally EAT your reference build ALIVE. I mainly focused on the CPU and GPU.
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.38 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.82 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.48 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($724.48 @ NCIX)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-B ATX Mid Tower Case ($41.98 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.66 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1524.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-13 15:43 EDT-0400
I hope you're not a serious multitasker...
This is as good as it'll get. It would literally EAT your reference build ALIVE. I mainly focused on the CPU and GPU.
What is the difference between amd and intel?
It is all brand preference; I personally love Intel.
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yugiohjustin
September 25, 2014 5:05:14 PM
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yugiohjustin said:
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Umm, Smart Response Technology? I like using abbreviations
So how big of a SSD would i need for SRT and maybe a little more (just incase windows increases in size for reasons)
SRT can use a max of 64 GB of which you can either take from your main SSD or an auxiliary SSD.
Could i have a 128GB SRT-Ready SSD for OS and Cache?
Sure thing, but 64 GB is too small for the OS and the stuff you put inside. Try this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-dri...
Seems kinda expensive. And also can you use a PCI x1 (Asus Xonar DG) in a PCI-E x1 slot?
If you`re going to use a single SSD for OS, SRT and cache, better make it big or else you`ll run out of space in no time. You could also only use 16 GB of SRT, though.
Of course, PCIe x1 cards are designed for x1 slots, but you can also plus them in x4, x8 and x16 slots.
How much SRT would be acceptable and reasonable for what i do? (would a 256 gb SSD be ok? And is SRT and cache the same thing?)
Also you diddnt really answer my question about PCI (not PCI-E) cards working in PCI-E slots
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zeyuanfu
September 26, 2014 4:59:02 AM
With an SSD, I would say 16-32 GB SRT. SRT and cache is probably the same thing. It uses an SSD as cache...
Sorry
, PCI cards (not PCI x1) do not work in PCIe x1 as
1, The PCI slot is much bigger than any PCIe x1 slot
2, Check:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
http://www.askageek.com/2007/05/09/pci-vs-pci-express/
Sorry
, PCI cards (not PCI x1) do not work in PCIe x1 as 1, The PCI slot is much bigger than any PCIe x1 slot
2, Check:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
http://www.askageek.com/2007/05/09/pci-vs-pci-express/
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September 26, 2014 9:21:05 PM
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With an SSD, I would say 16-32 GB SRT. SRT and cache is probably the same thing. It uses an SSD as cache...Sorry
, PCI cards (not PCI x1) do not work in PCIe x1 as 1, The PCI slot is much bigger than any PCIe x1 slot
2, Check:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
http://www.askageek.com/2007/05/09/pci-vs-pci-express/
So would that mean that i would need to get the more expensive Asus Xonar DGX (PCI-E) sound card instead of the less expensive Asus Xonar DG (PCI) to work on the Z97-A cause it only has no PCI x1 slots?
Then would a 128 GB SRT-Ready SSD be good for: 64GB for the OS (OS is like 30 GB but I will give it 64GB for expanding room), 32GB for SRT/Cache, and 32GB of free space (cause it loses performance when it gets past 75% full)
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zeyuanfu
September 27, 2014 3:30:53 AM
No, you can get the cheaper one as the Z97-A has 2 PCI slots.
If you're willing to squeeze everything you have except for the OS onto a hard drive, by all means, go for the 128GB SSD:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $64.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 06:29 EDT-0400
If you're willing to drop another forty bucks, though, I'd suggest this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $99.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 06:30 EDT-0400
This would be much more worth it.
If you're willing to squeeze everything you have except for the OS onto a hard drive, by all means, go for the 128GB SSD:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $64.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 06:29 EDT-0400
If you're willing to drop another forty bucks, though, I'd suggest this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $99.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 06:30 EDT-0400
This would be much more worth it.
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yugiohjustin
September 27, 2014 12:42:47 PM
zeyuanfu said:
No, you can get the cheaper one as the Z97-A has 2 PCI slots.If you're willing to squeeze everything you have except for the OS onto a hard drive, by all means, go for the 128GB SSD:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $64.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 06:29 EDT-0400
If you're willing to drop another forty bucks, though, I'd suggest this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $99.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 06:30 EDT-0400
This would be much more worth it.
I've never heard of mushkin before. is it a relyable brand?
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September 27, 2014 1:37:26 PM
yugiohjustin said:
zeyuanfu said:
No, you can get the cheaper one as the Z97-A has 2 PCI slots.If you're willing to squeeze everything you have except for the OS onto a hard drive, by all means, go for the 128GB SSD:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $64.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 06:29 EDT-0400
If you're willing to drop another forty bucks, though, I'd suggest this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $99.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 06:30 EDT-0400
This would be much more worth it.
I've never heard of mushkin before. is it a relyable brand?
Yes, Mushkin uses quality parts (as far as I know).
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