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ironwarrior

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Hello...
I am looking for some help building a new system.
I completed my last build 5 years ago in 2009.
I ran across this template that your forum recommended using when asking for help....

Approximate Purchase Date: 5 years ago (2009)

Budget Range: I am looking for a fast I7 system with components that give me the best bang for the buck. I really don't have a fixed limit, but if I had to add a number I would probably say 1000.00.
I think I can save some bucks since I would like to use some of my previous componets such as
- Antec 1200 case (will need to add a 3.0 USB Face plate to bring it to modern standards)
- Corsair 750 watt power supply
- DVD drives

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
- I play games very seldom, but would like to play occasionally. I like Call of Duty
I would rather have a good GPU that can keep up with most current games without breaking the bank.
- I do surf the net
- I also would like to set up virtual machine
- I like a machine that can do well with multitasking

Are you buying a monitor: NO
I currently have (2)
25 inch Samsung T260 and 27 inch S27C390
I would like to get a 3rd monitor eventually.


Parts to Upgrade:
I would like to get an Intel I7 processor. The 4770 seems to be the most popular. I'm not partial to AMD.
I am also considering an SSD drive for my C OS Boot Drive.
As for video card I am leaning toward the EVGA Geforce 760

Do you need to buy OS: No
I plan to install Windows 7 64 bit OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Newegg

Location:
California / Southbay

Parts Preferences:
Intel CPU
Gigabyte or AS ROCK Motherboard

Overclocking:
Maybe

SLI or Crossfire:
Maybe, but probably not

Your Monitor Resolution:
Not sure, but listed the models I have above.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
System is 5 years old
I initially built it before 64 bit windows really took off
with this said I only had added 4gb ram.
Now I want to have at least 16gb ram, but will need a 64 bit OS to take advantage of this.
Since the old DDR 2 ram is obsolete I can't find any to add to my existing machine.
This is why I want to upgrade primarily..

Here are the details of the components I currently have..


Memory (DDR2 1000 2gb x 2)
x ($49.99) MEM 2Gx2|GKS F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
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CPU E8500 3.16G Dual Core
1 x ($187.99) CPU INTEL|C2D E8500 3.16G 775 l
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CASE – Antec 1200
1 x ($159.99) CASE ANTEC|TWELVE HUNDRED BK RT
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MOTHERBOARD
1 x ($136.99) MB GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P P45 775
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VIDEO CARD GPU
1 x ($239.99) VGA SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL HD4870 1G
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POWER SUPPPLY CORSAIR 750W
1 x ($119.99) PSU CORSAIR|CMPSU-750TX 750W
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CPU COOLER
1 x ($36.99) CPU COOLER XIGMATEK|HDT-S1283
1 x ($8.49) CPU COOL XIGM|ACK-I7751 R - Retail
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Why the I7 over an i5 though, is there something specific that Hyperthreading works well on that you use day to day? Do you actually set up a bunch of VM's and do work on them, or you just like to have one or two to play with different OS's or some casual stuff?
 
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Hey Traciatim,
Honestly I haven't yet researched the pros and cons of I7 vs I5 :no:.
I just thought the I7 was more current and would give me better results...
I guess I shouldn't always follow the bigger is better philosophy :D

Primarily I am looking to end up with a fast system that will play the current games,
allow me to run as a movie server periodically, do standard office work and run current applications.
I won't be setting up a lot of VMs, I just want to be able to run one or two as you mentioned for training and troubleshooting purposes.
I want to build a system that will carry me for another 5 years without having to worry about any more hardware modifications.
I would rather have more performance and not need it, then have not enough and be sorry.

Thanks for any advice you can provide...
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($373.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.20 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $994.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-13 18:04 EDT-0400
 
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Hello Zeyuanfu,
Thanks for the parts list, however I was kind of leaning toward a Gigabyte or AS Rock Motherboard.
I can vouch for Gigabyte, but have read some great things about AS Rock. ASUS has always been a popular choice, but not really what I was seeking.
As for the cooler, I was hoping to be able to use my existing one. I'm not sure though if the 8500 Dual Core processor cooler will work on I5 or I7.
As for Memory I would like to at least 16GB to better future proof the system.
The Spinning hard drives I already have, but would like an SSD.
The video card you selected sounds like a great choice.. I have read some good things about the R9 290... Good bang for buck deal.
As for the case, I already have that as I mentioned... An Antec 1200. I couldn't ask for a better case...
The PS I already have as well.. the 750 Corsair... Great PS and has served me well for 5 years. I suppose it can go another 5.

So with all this said, I am typically just looking for the following recommendation...
Motherboard
CPU
Cooler (only if my dual core 8500 cooler will not work on I5 or I7)
Memory
GPU Video Card
SSD

Recommendations...
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.97 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.66 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($148.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($103.50 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($373.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $989.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-13 18:48 EDT-0400
The cooler you have is incompatible because it's for the LGA 775 socket, the 4690K is LGA 1150.
You have an extra 10$ to get whatever you want:)
 
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Depending on your use the i5 or i7 might make sense, they are both quad core CPUs with the main difference being the i7 has hyperthreading which allows more than one thread essentially share one core (a little more complex, but that's the 'one second overview' version). It works really well in certain scenarios which are generally processing tasks that are predictable and consistent like video compression, audio compression, compiling, raytracing . . . In a few games it helps somewhat but generally you would want to save the 100 bucks from the i7 and get an i5 and sink that 100 bucks in to a better video card if you were building a gaming rig.

Most of the other tasks you list would be find on a Pentium or low end i3, so the stuff that Zeyuanfo put together seems like a pretty good choice. If you are going to be running two VM's at once and would like to have them have 8GB of RAM available each you might want to think about 32GB or RAM, which would leave 8GB for each guest OS and then 16GB for your host OS . . . or if you wanted to run 4 guest machines at once you'd have that flexibility if it's important. Otherwise most of the other things you listed would work fine on 4GB for the general purpose stuff or 8GB for a gaming rig. So that's really more a personal preference and balancing of budget choice.

The 4690K with a mild overclock and a beefy video card make for a pretty fantastic and flexible rig. If you want to look at some benchmarks Toms actually did a review comparing Core2Duo and Quads to a modern i3 and i5 so you can see what kind of performance increase you'd be looking at: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-wolfdale-yorkfield-comparison,3487.html
 
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I recommend this build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($217.25 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 60GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($339.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N600 Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1018.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 10:15 EDT-0400

If you want to save money, degrade the case to a bitfenix Neos
This build will be good for another 3.5-5 years, but the build will last for 6-8 years if you go for a i7 4790K instead of the i5 4690k, for a few more dollars. And atleast a GTX770 is recommended.
 
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