will my pc display on a 4k tv

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please i really need help http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1907425.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:12488203250|tsid:59158|cid:200217410|lid:95296112450|nw:g|crid:42772540490|rnd:11197748015799173750|dvc:c|adp:1o1|bku:1 this is the tv i am buying it comes with a hdmi 1.4 port but no display port and also comes with a special hdmi cable that converts everything to near 4k quality i am taking its a 2.0 cables anyway my uqestion is my pc has a q6600 and a 8gb ddr 2 ram 660 freq ( or so) anyway its graphics card is a radeon 6450 2gb ddr 3 which has an hdmi 1.4 port i will not all use this for gaming only for display and movies but the max res of a radeon 6450 dosent support 4k native resolution so will my display be all blurry iam also plaing to use my ps4 with the 4k upscale feature
 
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what do u mean??
 
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I mean no, it will not work, like I said. The following quote is from PC Perspective and outlines why low end cards will not work with 4k displays.


A single frame of a game at 1920x1080 (Most common current HD resolution) produces 2.0 million pixels. A single frame at 3840x2160 produces 8.3 million pixels. The jump from a 1080p panel to a 4k panel greatly increases the computing power required for gaming. Users that bought a single GTX 680 or single HD 7970 will find that newer games like Crysis 3 won't breach the 25 FPS level even with image quality settings dropped off the maximum levels. Even GTX Titan buyers will find that their card has a bit of a struggle to keep playable frame rates at this resolution. Gamers that want the ultimate experience on a 4K display or TV will want to own a GTX 690 or better yet, a pair of GTX Titan cards running in SLI.
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Unfortunately for your card max resolution is 1920x1200 on HDMI and 2560x1600 on Displayport. If your TV don't have displayport then 1080p is prob as high as you can go.

GTX 750 is prob your best option as Nvidia has 4k@60hz over hdmi 1.4 and gtx 750 is capable of 4k output. That card will cost about 100 bux though :(

Hope it helps.
 
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This card will display at 4k resolutions with no problem:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card ($69.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $69.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 14:48 EDT-0400

Although if you want decent frame rates for gaming you probably want to go with something significantly better. For video display and basic use though it would work fine. If you plan to game intensively I'd go with at least an R9 270X or GTX 750 Ti (Preferably a factory overclocked version) as a minimum.

 
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i donot want to play games nor movies i just a 4k display now argos offers a u vision 4k upscalecable that turns 1080p 30 hz to 4k 30hz i just want a display thats it i have my ps4 for native 4k hd movies
 
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As far as Nvidia goes the lowest card you can get that support 4k is GT 740. The GTX 750 is only like 10 bux more so I still recommend the GTX 750. As mentioned before an r7 250 can display 4k i think but only at 30hz. Nvidia drivers are supposed to be able to do 4k at 60hz over hdmi 1.4 so I would say Nvidia is the better option.

So either GT 740 or for 10 bux more GTX 750 is prob what you want.
 
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How about the 600 series
 
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WITF would you want a 4k display if you're not going to use it for games, movies or video. Who needs a 4k display for browsing the web? That's pointless. There's nothing moving so any HD monitor can do that and look exactly the same as the 4k. I guess I just don't understand people sometimes. Sigh.
 
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Although I don't know how you can not understand I'll try to explain. A computer can be used for loads of other stuff than gaming and videos, and not at all narrowed down to your alternative "browsing the web". A 4K TV would create a desktop that is around 4 times bigger than that of HD. Imagine having 4 x 30 inch (4 desktops) into ONE 30 inch TV. For computer professionals working with web development, photo editing, desktop publishing, CAD, software developing etc etc. the increase in desktop space will be more than welcome and highly wanted. Using a bigger TV at same resolution as your normal monitor will only make everything appear bigger, not increase the available space. A lot of computer professionals have already experimentet with this using a Seiko 39 inch 4K TV, but until now it was only at 30 hz. Some like it, but most do not. All of us have been waiting for graphic cards supporting HDMI 2 or 4K TV's to support either HDMI 2 or displayport. 4K TV's are generally cheaper than 4K monitors.
 
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Disregard the recommendations of the graphic cards you have been advised in replies. GTX970 supports HDMI 2 and since newer 4K TV's also beginning to support HDMI 2, - that is what you want - if your budget allows it. I'm not sure what cable you are talking about, but what made me stop trying the same setup as your suggestion about a year ago was the 30 hz max since the HDMI 1.4 do not have the bandwidth of running 4K in 60 hz. Running 4K in 30 hz will make some what of a delay on the screen when using mouse etc and thats what stopped most people from doing what you are want. For a good, and in your case, working solution is to use HDMI 2 capable TV and graphic card.
 
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I fully understand all of that well enough. But the point is, a 4K monitor is not only unnecessary for any of those tasks, it's probably grossly overkill. You don't need a 4K monitor to increase the display size, in fact, for most people it probably makes things worse. TV companies are pushing 4K because they can. It's easy, or at least easier than improving the more important aspects of picture quality (like contrast ratio, color accuracy, motion blur, compression artifacts, and so on ). Somebody who is a graphic artist, does photo editing and CAD who are mainly working with still images won't appreciate or even notice the difference between an HD and Ultra HD display much if at all, other than the negative effects of it like choppiness at high resolutions since hdmi 1.4 only allows 30fps at 34080x2160. This link here shows why software developers probably wouldn't want to move on 4k yet.

http://tiamat.tsotech.com/4k-is-for-programmers-redux

And if you were to take 4 30 inch displays and display them at the resolution necessary to view all four on a single 30 inch display your eyes would never be able to decipher enough details to make it useful. Maybe on a much larger display. Anyhow, aside from that, anybody without HDMI 2.0 capable hardware probably won't be able to appreciate 4K even for motion. I like 4k too, don't get me wrong, it just seems like a waste of money the OP could put towards other areas but I concede that not everybody thinks the same and my opinion is not necessarily more relevant than yours.
 
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