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September 14, 2014 5:28:17 AM

Hello there ill link a video of my gameplay to see what big game stutters i have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzTZgGCd9p0&feature=you... As you see the game runs choppy and then run a smooth for a little and then back choppy stutter so i cant explain why. Im lookin for help to fix this issue so ill be thank you soo much if i slove the problem Thank you

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September 14, 2014 5:39:06 AM

That's a very common effect in MMOs which feature densely populated areas. It just stutters when it has to load characters, from what I've seen, and that's because it has to load them on-demand as soon as they come into your FOV and all at once.

If any other game which is not an MMO features that issue too, however, then there's something else...
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September 14, 2014 5:39:06 AM

Watching the video it looks like the stutters are happening right before characters are placed on the screen. Which can happen in MMO's especially in highly populated areas. Basically what is happening is that the game is being told by the server that a bunch of players are there and the stutter is caused by it loading up the assets needed to display the new players and places them on your screen. Does this stutter happen in a less player populated area?
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September 14, 2014 5:45:17 AM

Yes but its not that much as at the videoclip i notice even on old games a little stutter like a little flicker and then it fix its just start stutter then back smooth then again stutter and back smooth its very wierd and tryed alot of thing of fixin it but didint work . Also tried Windows preinstall , update drivers , update bios , cap frames with no luck at all .
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September 14, 2014 5:48:44 AM

Could you please post your full specs and the names of some games this happens with?
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September 14, 2014 5:57:22 AM

Ofcourse:
CPU: Intel core i5 4590 3,30GHZ with turbooost 3,5
GPU: Gigabyte nvidia GTX 660 2 GB OC
Mobo: Asrock H97 Performance
RAM 8 GB DDR3 1333mhz
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA200
PSU: Thermaltake Smart SE 730W
OS: Windows 7 64bit
Display: LG Flatron W2243T
Temps of CPU during gameplay 50-51C Box fan , Temps of GPU durning gameplay 48C

Games that i notice stuttering : Prototype 1,2 Mafia 2 , Darksiders 1 , GTA San Andreas , GTA 4 , Dead Rising 2 , Just cause 2 ( Shooter and Race games runs perfect idk why) I dont play on ultra settings just High with turning OFF all shadows and Anti aliasing to OFF too
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September 14, 2014 9:35:30 AM

Well, the 660 isn't exactly a powerhouse, but shouldn't give you such stutters on most of those games, especially if you're playing at high settings without shadows/AA.
Hardware wise, it looks OK.

Have you perhaps got shadowplay enabled? If so, try disabling it.
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September 14, 2014 9:47:29 AM

This is the interesting part While i recorded a Video with Shadowplay the gameplay captured with it looks Smooth as butter without any stutter so this video that i post is recorded with my mobile phone . And its also turned off while i dont want to record video i really dont want to stream or recording gameplay just for test and on the videoclip maked with nvidia Shadow play is smooth as butter . Also while i tested with Vsync Off i saw there is slight better gameplay run but on cost of Tearing in some games the tearing on screen is too much so its unable for playing :(  So what to do next ?
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September 14, 2014 12:45:05 PM

Check the ram settings with CPU-Z. Make sure you are getting 1333MHz and that it's reading both sticks and says " DUAL " if you have 2 x 4GB.
Looks like the hardware is fine but no way to know till test it. Try 3D mark 11 and see what it says about your hardware, other than that it seems to me it's most likely a setting on one of your components.

Just out of curiosity is the pc clean? I may go overboard with cleaning my pc every month but, I get many brought to me that have so much dust build up they slow fans and cause over heating.

Another thing to check is the virtual memory. Make sure it's the proper page size and on the proper drive.
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September 14, 2014 1:07:02 PM

Generally the gtx 660 scores in the upper 6000 on graphics. Your score is around 800 less than most, I would see if any tweaking of the gpu would help you.
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September 14, 2014 1:25:38 PM

Did this just happen all of a sudden or did you just get this gpu? You may want to try uninstalling all the gpu drivers and make sure you get any other drivers that may have been left behind from an older gpu. Then re-install current gpu drivers and update

Guru3D is great for getting all those left over drivers.
http://www.guru3d.com/content-page/guru3d-driver-sweepe...
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September 14, 2014 1:51:47 PM

For the MMO featured in your video, the issue's there only when loading densely populated areas, which is common for any MMO, so there's nothing to do there...

Do you experience no change even in other games like Darksiders and GTA San Andreas?
Also, if what gman said applies (related to having just installed the gpu), it's highly advisable to run Guru3D's Display Driver Uninstaller and reinstall drivers, just in case.
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September 14, 2014 2:05:28 PM

Yup i did it with also the same program i uninstaled it
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September 14, 2014 2:06:44 PM

Its not i have a friend with Lenovo G500 Laptop but there is no stuttering with him on his pc but i also tryed even with LOW details and resolution and still the same no performance gain :( 
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September 14, 2014 3:48:47 PM

Well it seems your 660 is back up to specs but, that's odd that it runs better before your last update...

Have you tried running games in window , borderless mode?
I have seen ppl say that if your desktop resolution is different than your game resolution it can cause issues but, that usually pertains to win 8.
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September 15, 2014 12:00:44 AM

Not all of them have a borderless window option, and although there are ways to force it, they're not stable nor consistent with all games (at least, from my experience with my old HD 6870). Most will work, some won't, others will glitch and/or eventually crash. It's worth a try anyway.

I've looked up for your HDD, and it turned out to be a 2TB 7200rpm 64MB cache drive. You said you had to disable pagefile, and you usually WANT to do so, not HAVE TO, so I'd like to have some more info on that:
- Is it a new disk or an old one you recycled somewhere else?
- What is the disk's condition in terms of data? Is there enough space left? (1Gb or more)
- When was the last time you defragmented the HDD?
- Is it partitioned? (it's not necessary, but highly advisable anyway, to partition drives above 1TB into smaller partitions, as some drives lead to various issues if left with a single huge partition. E.g., you could split your 2TB drive into 2 smaller units of 1TB each.)

In any case, that Thermaltake PSU was bugging me from your first post. Keep it as a last ditch effort, but you should consider the idea of trying with another one, as it does meet (and surpass) wattage needs for your rig, but I'm afraid it might not output required voltages and that it might not be made with quality components...
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September 15, 2014 2:43:27 AM

12v rail gives 57 A my PSU and the hdd is new and allso tested with otner new hard Seagate model st1000dm003
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September 15, 2014 6:57:45 AM

How many 12v rails are there and how is current distributed between them? Is it under +-1% in voltage output?
Also, are you absolutely sure it's 57A? I believe I read reports of that actually outputting 53 A, which would bring the 12v available power down by a relatively important amount (50W less, roughly). Depending on how currents are distributed among 12v rails, it could be even worse...

In any case, do keep the PSU out of question for now.
Let's make sure it's not something else before pointing fingers at the wrong issues...
Did this issue always happen? Or were games working fine before?
Should the latter option be our case, did you change something in your system recently, be it software or hardware?
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September 15, 2014 9:08:41 AM

my old psu was Cooler Master Extreme power plus 500W and i change it for Thermaltake Smart SE 730W and alot of new parts too fully hardware upgrade and today i reinstall the windows again for test other release
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September 15, 2014 9:21:25 AM

Did you reinstall every gaming-related library along with the new OS? I'm talking about DirectX, Microsoft Visual C++ redistributables and the various .NET Frameworks. (Technically speaking, the latter two aren't gaming-related only, but let's keep things simple)

Same question applies for chipset, audio and other system drivers. Get them from your motherboard's product page.
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September 15, 2014 1:22:24 PM

Can you link me them on private message ?
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September 15, 2014 4:31:44 PM

Although it's kind of blunt, I believe "spoonfeeding" is a bad thing. You know how they say: "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you'll feed him for the rest of his life", or something like that.
If you learn how to do something on your own, you won't have to ask again next time; isn't that a better thing than following a list of instructions? ;) 

DirectX, .NET and Visual C++ are easily Google-able, with the latter two having multiple versions. You might want to Google and install all of them, using 64 bit version where applicable.
As per the "Chipset and Co." drivers, if your Asrock H97 has a product page on Asrock's website, you can find the rest there, otherwise you can Google for them as well.
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September 16, 2014 5:54:25 AM

Okey i found them and install but the same slow loading the objects :(  i have friend with lower pc configuration han mine but the loading on him is much faster than mine so what should i do ? do my components are enoguh or there is not a hardware issue ?
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September 16, 2014 7:28:02 AM

Your components are enough for 1080p gameplay, medium-high details. At this point the stutters are to be blamed either on the RAM or on the disk IMO, or in a different case on how the 12v rails currents are split on your PSU (extreme example: if you have 3 rails for a total of 57A, but they're split for 25-25-7, whatever's going to be connected to that 7A rail will likely be the cause, if it's either the cpu or the gpu).
Try downloading memtest64 and run it for a while, see if there are any issues with ram. We'll get to HDD afterwards.

Either the above applies or your friend has an SSD...
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September 16, 2014 7:43:05 AM

my friend dont have ssd
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September 16, 2014 7:46:16 AM

and my 12v is single rail 57 A on my PSU
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September 16, 2014 10:30:07 PM

This guy needs a nap I think.

No V-sync right?
" I had turn off the Page file " WHY?
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September 16, 2014 10:55:27 PM

GmanBOSS said:
This guy needs a nap I think.

No V-sync right?
" I had turn off the Page file " WHY?


Who needs a nap? me, or him? (or both? :D )
TBH, I completely missed the part where he said he disabled pagefile, but if he has enough RAM it's ok (obviously, as soon as he's even going to slightly run out of that, he's going to be in trouble), and the stutters he has don't seem to be V-Sync related.

I do agree on the fact that it would be nice to know why, anyway...
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September 17, 2014 1:48:32 AM

The stutterings is cuz of slow loading objects and when they load completely there is no more lag, stutter maybe on other games the loading times of the objects is a bit faster and the stutterings is barely visible what i tested is two different hard drives Toshiba DT01ACA200 and Seagate ST1000DM003 1ER162 no difference in bouth also had turn off page file and no difference except maybe on ST1000DM03 the stutters is a like slow motion but on Toshiba DT01AVA200 its like screen froze for secounds but also this not is the fix .
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September 17, 2014 4:37:01 AM

The lack of VM could cause an issue. Windows Vista/7/8 will use some of the memory to preload anticipated files into memory if it has the free space to do so. If virtual memory is turned on it will place unused but loaded system data to the harddrive and use that extra space for other things. 8GB in a modern system is a joke. My current system uses anywhere between 4.0-5.5GBs on the desktop 1.5GB is paged out to the pagefile. This I'm sure would be a good amount especially when a game can use 2-4GB of memory by itself. which would limit Windows ability to use extra free memory for speeding up a system.

I wouldn't turn of VM in a modern system for gaming unless you had 16GB minimum. And that number is just going to continue rising year after year. The VM process in modern OS's is very useful so I really wouldn't turn it off. This isn't Windows 98 we are using.
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September 18, 2014 7:50:51 PM

I agree caqde. Soon as I get another 16GB I plan on creating a RAM Drive dedicating 6GB to my OS.
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September 19, 2014 4:16:42 PM

and so guys how can i fix this circle of smooth moves and stutter moves ? How to get constant smooth gameplay :(  but please dont say to upgrade to high end gaming machine for fix this i think this game doesnt require that kind of components in my opinion mine harduer is pretty enogh so really what should i check next ?
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September 19, 2014 4:45:20 PM

raziel92 said:
and so guys how can i fix this circle of smooth moves and stutter moves ? How to get constant smooth gameplay :(  but please dont say to upgrade to high end gaming machine for fix this i think this game doesnt require that kind of components in my opinion mine harduer is pretty enogh so really what should i check next ?


Just out of curiosity have you tested playing the game with the pagefile (VM) on or have you always tested while it was off?
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September 19, 2014 5:03:57 PM

i was tested bouth its stutter again never smooth gameplay even while fraps says 60 fps its stutter for a micro secound i dont know how its like a little lag or something like this cant explain correctli but its not completely smooth as it must be :( 
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October 5, 2014 3:56:21 AM

So i just bough new ram G Skill Ripjaws X Kit and even with the new ram it doesnt fix the issue :(  what should i do ? I saw 1 person with Nvidia GT 630 and Normal HDD Seagate play games smooth as butter :(  what is the problem in my PC ?
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