Upgrading my PC? gpu vs cpu for making games.
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0kami
September 14, 2014 4:38:10 PM
0kami
September 14, 2014 4:59:39 PM
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Its so bad move to buy a good APU and a GPU.
Buy a normal CPU like FX-6300 and a mid-range GPU like GTX750ti 2GB
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($106.01 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $300.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 20:06 EDT-0400
Buy a normal CPU like FX-6300 and a mid-range GPU like GTX750ti 2GB
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($106.01 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $300.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 20:06 EDT-0400
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For the game dev question, here:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2670 V2 2.5GHz 10-Core Processor ($1504.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($335.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($325.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W9100 16GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($3299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone FT02B-W-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($256.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($301.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $6194.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 20:09 EDT-0400
This won't even sit well for Linus's editor, Edzel. (LinusTechTips, a YouTube channel. The editor has a 12-core E5-2697V2!!!!!!!!!!) This is just YouTube. They need some heavy rendering. This is why it's not even extreme yet.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2670 V2 2.5GHz 10-Core Processor ($1504.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($335.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($325.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W9100 16GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($3299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone FT02B-W-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($256.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($301.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $6194.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 20:09 EDT-0400
This won't even sit well for Linus's editor, Edzel. (LinusTechTips, a YouTube channel. The editor has a 12-core E5-2697V2!!!!!!!!!!) This is just YouTube. They need some heavy rendering. This is why it's not even extreme yet.
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0kami
September 14, 2014 5:13:46 PM
okcnaline said:
For the game dev question, here:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2670 V2 2.5GHz 10-Core Processor ($1504.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($335.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($325.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W9100 16GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($3299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone FT02B-W-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($256.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($301.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $6194.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 20:09 EDT-0400
This won't even sit well for Linus's editor, Edzel. (LinusTechTips, a YouTube channel. The editor has a 12-core E5-2697V2!!!!!!!!!!) This is just YouTube. They need some heavy rendering. This is why it's not even extreme yet.
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0kami said:
Is it really a bad idea? Cause I'm really trying to avoid building a new computer due household circumstances.I offer you a better solution with the same money ( 300$ )
If you dont wanna spend to much money, buy the GTX750ti 2GB and a cheap CPU Cooler like Hyper 212 and Overclock your cpu.
Total cost 150$
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0kami
September 14, 2014 5:23:04 PM
0kami
September 14, 2014 5:25:56 PM
0kami
September 14, 2014 5:26:47 PM
0kami
September 14, 2014 6:03:13 PM
0kami
September 14, 2014 6:14:17 PM
I must be seeing things cause I found one for $120 here:
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
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1) Well, you aren't dreaming. http://www.sabrepc.com/amd-ad7600ybi44ja-a8-7600-kaveri...
This is A8-7600. But like I said, that isn't general availability. It's OEM extras that they managed to buy from the OEMs like HP, Dell, etc.
2) Universities may give minimums, but that's minimum. You can get an editing computer (like the one I listed above) and be all crazy and still meet what they require, or get a cheap Pentium 14" Asus laptop for $249 and still meet what they require.
This is A8-7600. But like I said, that isn't general availability. It's OEM extras that they managed to buy from the OEMs like HP, Dell, etc.
2) Universities may give minimums, but that's minimum. You can get an editing computer (like the one I listed above) and be all crazy and still meet what they require, or get a cheap Pentium 14" Asus laptop for $249 and still meet what they require.
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0kami
September 14, 2014 7:41:42 PM
True, my College does have fairly strong pc's but I want to be able to do most of the things I will be doing in school at home. Although at minimum expense. So I was wondering what could I do to my current build (ie, AMB A6-5600 with 12gb memory) to make it more game dev oriented without breaking the bank or building another pc. And first thing that comes to my mind is either up the cpu or get a strong gpu?
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Right. So if it fits the requirements, then he should be in the green. Anything else is purely a want.
Dont get me wrong, there are valid and solid reasons to upgrade (OP PC is lower end for sure), but unless he needs it than it shouldn't be considered.
Also, I'm really confused to which processor the OP has. He stated two different types and neither of them exist... lol.
Unless he meant the A8 5600 on the OP, and the A10 5700 on the other post, then that work kind of make sense, yet like I said they're both different. Make up your mind OP!
Dont get me wrong, there are valid and solid reasons to upgrade (OP PC is lower end for sure), but unless he needs it than it shouldn't be considered.
Also, I'm really confused to which processor the OP has. He stated two different types and neither of them exist... lol.
Unless he meant the A8 5600 on the OP, and the A10 5700 on the other post, then that work kind of make sense, yet like I said they're both different. Make up your mind OP!
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0kami
September 14, 2014 7:54:44 PM
0kami
September 14, 2014 7:59:42 PM
I would suggest some of this:
http://www.overclock.net/a/state-of-the-workstation
That's the best and cheapest option. A HD7950 (aka R9 280X) can be softmodded into a FirePro. A 650 Ti (1st gen Kepler) can be softmodded also.
This would be a great option, thanks to 3Dns who made me rethink. The entire time I haven't realized you were talking about video game making.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 650 1GB Video Card ($66.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $346.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 23:04 EDT-0400
This is essentially a Haswell Xeon E3, and a Quadro K2000.
http://www.overclock.net/a/state-of-the-workstation
That's the best and cheapest option. A HD7950 (aka R9 280X) can be softmodded into a FirePro. A 650 Ti (1st gen Kepler) can be softmodded also.
This would be a great option, thanks to 3Dns who made me rethink. The entire time I haven't realized you were talking about video game making.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 650 1GB Video Card ($66.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $346.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-14 23:04 EDT-0400
This is essentially a Haswell Xeon E3, and a Quadro K2000.
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0kami
September 14, 2014 8:23:29 PM
Id go an extra mile for a better gpu but I feel I wouldn't be able to use it to its full potential since its bottle necked by the A8 7600 that I'll be getting. So I'll be sticking to either a 750 ti or a R9 270. Although videocardbenchmark.net is showing the R9 ahead of the 750 ti. I'll see when I visit my local shop.
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Actually, that is essentially a workstation CPU paired with a mid-low end gaming GPU. Anyone know the difference between Quadro cards? No? No worries, I'll answer that.
The difference between the two is that the Quadro cards are meant for general computing, while the GTX style cards are meant for 3D apps. As in, the Quadro accells at cuda/OpenGL compute because of their software and drivers, and usually have higher memory to chomp on whilst doing so. GTX style cards have drivers positioned to give unreliable stability (in the sense of FPS, not crashing).
The difference between the two is that the Quadro cards are meant for general computing, while the GTX style cards are meant for 3D apps. As in, the Quadro accells at cuda/OpenGL compute because of their software and drivers, and usually have higher memory to chomp on whilst doing so. GTX style cards have drivers positioned to give unreliable stability (in the sense of FPS, not crashing).
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0kami
September 15, 2014 11:03:53 AM
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0kami
September 15, 2014 1:09:07 PM
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I just happened to be interested in FirePro cards, so I found this:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FirePro
Look for soft-mod.
It is essentially patching the drivers so the model that is essentially the same as the target softmod model is detected as the valid professional card.
I just happened to be interested in FirePro cards, so I found this:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FirePro
Look for soft-mod.
It is essentially patching the drivers so the model that is essentially the same as the target softmod model is detected as the valid professional card.
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Ah. Modifying official drivers to be used for performance gain.
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'Soft mods' may get you there, but its about the journey, not the destination.
In other words, hardware differences still matted, and the AMD gpu's that are modded (software) don't have half the memory as the workstation GPU its trying to mimic.
TL;DR its a cop out to soft mod IMO.
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'Soft mods' may get you there, but its about the journey, not the destination.
In other words, hardware differences still matted, and the AMD gpu's that are modded (software) don't have half the memory as the workstation GPU its trying to mimic.
TL;DR its a cop out to soft mod IMO.
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