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the 4GB version of the GTX 770 is trash. it makes no difference, zero, even if you are gaming at 1600p. it shouldn't even exist. it was made with one goal in mind, to take more money from the spec ******. look at these numbers, there is virtually no difference:

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for a few more dollars you can snag a GTX 780, just get that. the CPU itself is pretty good but i would buy a 4690k and just overclock it, it will be faster
 
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that PSU is a rip off at that price, get this instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207033&ignorebbr=1

also, you don't need the i7 4790k. the 4690k is plenty for gaming. the i7's only advantage is hyper threading which is totally useless to you.

spend the extra $100 on an SSD

EDIT: here is a super fast SSD for $110 with a decent amount of storage: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173011

i hate that stupid parts picker because it some parts it just can't find.
 
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what does hyper-threading do??
 
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Hyper threading isn't really utilised in games yet, but in processes like editing and rendering it can increase performance by up to 30%.

Here is a build I made for you around the same price as your other builds and using a 770, although you could step up to an R9 290 is you want better performance and still be in budget. I went for a red/black build and case with window so you can see it. If you don't want a window let me know and i'll change a few parts. Does your $1200 budget include monitor, os, KB or mouse or are there any specifics you want?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.66 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97X Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($280.80 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.19 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $941.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-15 23:02 EDT-0400

 
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that looks fine but if i overclock it how high can i go with that cooler and when im building it do i need to put thermal paste or is in built in or whatever and i kinda rather the 780 but other than that its good and i have monitors and all that
also wont i need a lil better psu???
 
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No the Antec Neo Eco is made by SeaSonic and the same platform as their M12II PSU's which are excellent. Thermal paste will come with the cooler. I don't like to say how high you will be able to OC as there are factors other than the cooler, but I have seen overclocks of 4.2ghz with the EVO. The EVO is good enough for most general overclocks but if you really want to push the chip you need to go for big air, a good quality AIO or a custom loop.

If you're happy to spend $1200 on the build this is what i'd get if i was planning further improvements. It is ready to have a second 780 dropped in without needing any changes. You could get away with a far lower wattage PSU but the G2 1300w is just a great price at the moment. PSU's only draw what they need to power the rig, so don't worry about power consumption, it's not going to be pulling 1300w. If you don't think you'll add another 780 then drop to a lower wattage PSU and get an SSD. I'd probably look at the 250 gb Samsung 840 EVO or Crucial MX100.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.66 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($204.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($398.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.19 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 1300W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1235.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-15 23:20 EDT-0400
 
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ok so thats good im just really wanting to overclock it to 4.0ghz is there any way i can check to see if i can get it that high?? or will i have to check temps and all that when i build it
 
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Or get the new i7 4790K and you wont have to overclock.. Run it safer and cooler for a Total of $1215.28 .
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Chicano/saved/qLcgXL

Another i7 option for a Total: $1210.33
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Chicano/saved/kv4Zxr

Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K $334.99
Passmark Average CPU Mark = 10276
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4770K+%40+3.50GHz&id=1919

Intel Core i7-4790K Haswell Quad-Core 4.0GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I74790K (New Intel Devil’s Canyon Core i7-4790K) $339.99
Passmark Average CPU Mark = 11412
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369&cm_re=Intel_Devil%u2019s_Canyon_Core_i7-4790K-_-19-117-369-_-Product
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4790K+%40+4.00GHz&id=2275

Compare to: Intel Core i5-4690K @ 3.50GHz -
Passmark Average CPU Mark = 7735
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4690K+%40+3.50GHz
 
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OP- Unless you're trying to cut down on noise, and/or are struggling with air cooling to begin with, you shouldn't really need liquid cooling. Liquid cooling is really only necessary when you are running a lot of extra hardware, or you're overclocking your equipment really hard for long periods of time, and you struggle to maintain low enough temperatures. That, or if your rig is too loud. Very few people really need water cooling. It's more a hobby than anything, at the moment. I might liquid cool my PC at some point, but the cost just isn't worth it for my uses in the short term. Also, they make noise dampening cases for those who need quieter builds.

Also, the 4690k can use Intel's boost to get it up to 3.9GHz, which is practically a 4.0 for your use. You really won't need to OC it to 4.0, because there will be practically no discernible difference to you. That saves you a little with power consumption, and cuts down on some heat. At a certain point, a faster processor doesn't necessarily give you better performance.
 
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If you're going to get a K chip then you should put it on a Z motherboard. Although you can do a non-Z OC on some H and B motherboards, it's not the same a normal overclocking. Otherwise save some money and get the locked version of the CPU. Also there is really no reason to pay an extra $100 for an i7 for little to no performance increase. As for turbo boost it works a bit different to overclocking as well, but really overclocking isn't going to give you radical performance difference in games anyway. Pushing a chip further by using liquid cooling over an EVO also isn't going to give you different performance in games either (maybe a few FPS different).
 
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