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Will either LGA 2011v3 OR LGA 1150 support actual 14nm or just die shrinks?

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September 16, 2014 6:51:22 AM

Will either LGA 2011v3 OR LGA 1150 support actual 14nm or just die shrinks?

Skylake is the 'real' 14nm am I correct? Does that mean that LGA 1150 will not be supported in "real" 14nm but only a Broadwell die shrink? What about LGA 2011v3? It supports Broadwell-E but is that a true 14nm or just another fake die shrink?

Is there expected to be a LGA 2011v4 or something entirely new?

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September 16, 2014 7:21:07 AM

Skylake will need a LGA1151 socket.

I'm not sure about the -E CPUs, I expect Broadwell-E to go with 2011-3 at least, I don't have a clue about Skylake-E.
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September 16, 2014 7:26:36 AM

Vexillarius said:
Skylake will need a LGA1151 socket.

I'm not sure about the -E CPUs, I expect Broadwell-E to go with 2011-3 at least, I don't have a clue about Skylake-E.



Are there expected to be any 4.0+ GHz Skylake CPU's that are more than quad core for Desktop?
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September 16, 2014 7:33:04 AM

Skylake is expected to stick to quad-core for mainstream CPUs. Hexacores and octocores (maybe even more?) are expected for Skylake-E ofcourse.

I think 4.0GHz+ will be the standard when Skylake comes around and maybe even earlier. The i7-4790k already breaks 4GHz at stock, and there's Broadwell in between.
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September 16, 2014 11:51:29 AM

Vexillarius said:
Skylake is expected to stick to quad-core for mainstream CPUs. Hexacores and octocores (maybe even more?) are expected for Skylake-E ofcourse.

I think 4.0GHz+ will be the standard when Skylake comes around and maybe even earlier. The i7-4790k already breaks 4GHz at stock, and there's Broadwell in between.



Why does LGA 1150 already have a 4.0Ghz (stock) cpu ( i7-4790k0 ) but not the newer LGA 2011v3? Isn't this backwards?

I'm bummed out because although LGA2011v3 has potential for eight or more cores, I still prefer for single non-threaded applications to have access to a processor with at least 4.0Ghz (stock). An ideal situation is an octo-core at 4.0Ghz stock, but that is simply not the case!

Is it possible that since Broadwell and SkyLake are coming out so soon and close to each other that Intel will never release a cpu for the LGA 2011v3 that is 4.0Ghz or faster (stock)?????
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September 16, 2014 12:18:58 PM

The reason that -E CPUs have a slower clockspeed is because they have to accommodate more cores. Those extra cores make it harder to achieve high clockspeeds, though they can still be overclocked substantially. They are still way, way faster than anything else in applications that actually use those extra cores.

I'm sure Intel will eventually release 4.0GHz+ octocores, but if it's going to happen on 2011-3 depends on how long Intel decides to keep it around, and on that I can only speculate.
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September 16, 2014 12:57:04 PM

Vexillarius said:
The reason that -E CPUs have a slower clockspeed is because they have to accommodate more cores. Those extra cores make it harder to achieve high clockspeeds, though they can still be overclocked substantially. They are still way, way faster than anything else in applications that actually use those extra cores.

I'm sure Intel will eventually release 4.0GHz+ octocores, but if it's going to happen on 2011-3 depends on how long Intel decides to keep it around, and on that I can only speculate.



So therefore my dilemma,

Right now I'm using a very old Pentium 4 machine and want to upgrade to a gaming rig that will last me a long long time (seven or ten years) since I haven't upgraded in more than a decade.

If I go with the 1150, I get the 4.0Ghz stock, can overclock it, and it has quad cores, I can max out at 32GB DDR3 and I only plan on buying 1 Titan gfx card (no sli, etc) - and thus be using 'last gen' technology out of the gate. I don't do overclocking, some of the games I wanna play like FSX are CPU bound and single core/thread only, so I need that stock 4.0Ghz.

OR

I go with the 2011v3 mobo, get up to 64GB of DDR4, buy 1 Titan, and hope and pray that Intel will come out with a stock 4.0Ghz Quad/Octo core on the 2011v3 platform before it gets retired when SkyLake comes out next year when 2015 is right around the corner?
I'm not going to buy a 2011v3 just to switch to 2011v4 one year later!

But I do want to get something very soon and don't want to wait until 2015. Once my system is built, I plan on using it forever, until we have quantum computers. 22nm is good enough. Anything below 10nm is asking for quantum issues. (no joke)


I'm being shafted either way!
Help! any advice?

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