Will LGA 2011v3 eventually support 8 or more cores on DESKTOP computing or SERVER ONLY?

iratemonkey · Sep 16, 2014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadwell_%28microarchitecture%29

I'm confused.... Where does it talk about the desktop version of a octo-core for the Broadwell-E that is supposed to come out for LGA 2011v3?

If there won't be any desktop/gamer/consumer version of 14nm octo-core coming out for the socket 2011v3 then why not stick to 1150? A 22nm octo-core is not as compelling as a true 14-nm octo-core.

LGA 2011-v3 socket:

Broadwell-EP: To be marketed as Xeon E5-2600 v4 etc., while using the C610 Wellsburg chipset platform. Up to 18 cores and 36 threads, up to 45 MB of total cache and 40 PCI Express 3.0 lanes, with 70–160 W TDP classes. Maximum supported memory speed is quad-channel DDR4-2400.[12]
Broadwell-EX: Brickland platform, for mission-critical servers. Intel QuickPath Interconnect (QPI) is expected to be updated to version 1.1, enabling seamless scaling beyond eight-socket systems. Maximum supported memory speeds are expected to be DDR3-1600 and DDR4-3200.[13][14]

logainofhades · Sep 16, 2014

5960x is an 8 core CPU. Stick to tech sites for your info. :lol:

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iratemonkey · Sep 16, 2014

logainofhades :

Yes but it is 22nm which is "last gen", I was wondering about true 14nm.

RobCrezz · Sep 16, 2014

iratemonkey :

What? Broadwell isnt even out yet... 22nm is current gen. Socket 2011-v3 is brand new.

I would put money on there being a Broadwell-E 8 core i7 6960x, eventually.

oxiide · Sep 16, 2014

iratemonkey :

I certainly can't see them taking away cores from an established SKU when it gets refreshed with the 14 nm process node. I wouldn't expect it for at least a year or two, though. X99 is as "current-gen" as it gets.

Don't get distracted by the die shrink. Chances are very good that for people who actually need it, an 8-core i7-5960X is going to remain more attractive than a 4-core 14 nm Broadwell i7. They aren't going to care whether its "last-gen" or not.

iratemonkey · Sep 16, 2014

There is already a 4.0 Ghz processor on the LGA 1150

What if 14nm is delayed, Intel skips right to the SkyLake, is there a chance that there will never be a 4.0Ghz processor (quad or octo) on the LGA 2011v3?

RobCrezz · Sep 16, 2014

iratemonkey :

Stock speed?

As all of the 2011v3 chips reach 4.0ghz with mild overclocking no problem.

iratemonkey · Sep 16, 2014

RobCrezz :

Yeah stock speed there is only one cpu that reaches 4.0ghz and that is a 1150 NOT a 2011v3

Plus there are rumors that Intel is having massive issues with the 14nm, so if Skylake is delayed and Broadwell might get canned and they might make the jump straight to 2011v4 or 1151 and leave everyone with a 1150 or 2011v3 left holding the bag.

Get what I mean? So is it safer to go with 1150 with the assurance that there is already a 4.0ghz cpu out there? Or wait and hope and bet that there will be a quad or octo cpu (whether 14nm or 22nm) that stocks 4.0ghz that is on the 2011v3?

RobCrezz · Sep 16, 2014

iratemonkey :

RobCrezz :

Yeah stock speed there is only one cpu that reaches 4.0ghz and that is a 1150 NOT a 2011v3

Why does stock speed matter when all of the 2011v3 chips are unlocked, and will all reach 4.0Ghz easily.

iratemonkey · Sep 16, 2014

RobCrezz :

iratemonkey :

Why does stock speed matter when all of the 2011v3 chips are unlocked, and will all reach 4.0Ghz easily.

Because I don't want to overclock anything, it stresses out the CPU and shortens lifespan.

RobCrezz · Sep 16, 2014

iratemonkey :

Common misconception really. A mild overclock will not reduce the life of the CPU significantly, it will still be obsolete before it dies. The reason intel dont clock them at 4Ghz stock is because the power rating would appear higher.

My i5 2500k has been overclocked since I bought it, still working fine at 4.7Ghz. I have overclocked CPUs for years, since the days of AMD K6s, Celeron 300a's etc. Never had one die through overclocking.

iratemonkey · Sep 16, 2014

RobCrezz :

iratemonkey :

Common misconception really. A mild overclock will not reduce the life of the CPU significantly, it will still be obsolete before it dies. The reason intel dont clock them at 4Ghz stock is because the power rating would appear higher.

My i5 2500k has been overclocked since I bought it, still working fine at 4.7Ghz. I have overclocked CPUs for years, since the days of AMD K6s, Celeron 300a's etc. Never had one die through overclocking.

4.7Ghz? Must be using nitrogen or active liquid cooling?

logainofhades · Sep 16, 2014

His signature says Corsair H105.

RobCrezz · Sep 17, 2014

Yeah nothing too fancy, just a H105, with the fans running very slowly.

I had it running 4.5/4.6Ghz just fine on a mid range air cooler (Phanteks TC-12DX).

oxiide · Sep 17, 2014

iratemonkey :

The 4 GHz stock CPU you're thinking of (i7-4790K) is the same Haswell chip as the i7-4770K. They're overclocking it for you in the factory. It will potentially reach the same 4.5-4.7 GHz as any other Haswell i5 or i7. Its not much different than setting a -4770K to 4 GHz on your own.

Provided you keep it cool enough, a responsibly overclocked CPU is overwhelmingly likely to outlive its usefulness. You'll likely need an upgrade years before anything happens to it.

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