Plz help me is this AMD FX 6300 a good upgrade for my q6600 ?

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 17, 2014

hello guys
im planning to upgrade my system whit a not to high budget
so my question is is the AMD FX 6300 a good upgrdae for my Q6600

my current system is the q6600 whit 3,0 ghz motherbord asus p5w Deluxe 4 gb ram
graphic card a asus eah 5770 v2
so is this upgrade to a AMD FX 6300 3,5 ghz motherboard 970 Pro3 R2.0 8gb ram
graphic card a asus eah5770 v2

te 3,5 ghz from te AMD FX 6300 i whant to overclock to 4,0ghz

is this a good upgrade plz help me i dont whant to waste my money
already thx for help

getochkn · Sep 17, 2014

Is the AMD faster. Sure. Is it a huge step up? Not a huge one.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=53

That boards not the best for overclocking, and you'll need a better heatsink to overclock even if the board had good cooled VRM's, which that one doesn't.

In reality though, if this if for gaming, you'll see no real advantage as your video cards are old, even 2 of them.

Getting 4 more GB of RAM would help a b it, but otherwise, I'd save for a new system instead of a partial upgrade. I'd assume your HD is old too. An old HD will slow down systems.

jbrown156 · Sep 17, 2014

Danny Nieuwenhuis :

its definitely an upgrade alright but not much of it .. the difference wont be severe .. i would recommend you keep that money and save for a newer intel based processor if you want to ..from what i see your on an intel board so you wre going to upgrade the motherboard anyway so why not stick with the intel board and reap the benefits of a intel processors

jackstrr · Sep 17, 2014

I personally use the FX 6300, and it is the best money I have ever spent on a CPU, it's low in temperatures, has 6 cores for future compatibility with games. Does rendering and heavy 3D modeling tasks perfectly, and AMD are currently lowering their prices for the CPU, As an extra, don't get that graphics card, it will bottleneck the CPU and it wont be able to perform as good with let's say a Radeon 7870

Darkbreeze · Sep 18, 2014

jackstrr :

GPU's don't bottleneck CPU's. It's the other way around. A CPU will use whatever the GPU can throw at it up to it's potential limit so if you have a killer GPU and a so so CPU the GPU will be throwing way more at the CPU than it can process in a timely manner which causes all manner of neurotic behaviors. Make sure you know what you're advising about, prior to advising.

Darkbreeze · Sep 18, 2014

getochkn :

Actually, even at stock speeds, from your own link the benchmarks show significant improvements. Some of those benchmarks were nearly double and most of them were 25% or more. I'd say it would certainly speed up a variety of tasks and for what it's worth, it would probably allow those "older" cards a little breathing room. Not to mention the 6300 supports instructions not supported with the other cpu. The real question is does that board have features that support any of those improvements. According to the cpu support list for that motherboard, FX series cpu's are not even supported so this conversation is a moot point.

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 18, 2014

i need the upgrade to play today games on normal settings whit around 30 to 60 fps
so whill te fx-6300 be able to play it and can that motherboard support it whitout problems
i whant to push the fx-6300 to like 4ghz whit a Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO cooler ?
and if you think why i not upgrade my graphic card i dont have like to koney to do all on the same time

so i whant to buy this

cooler

http://www.norrod.nl/zkb-01com/80004177/cooler-master-hyper-tx3-evo-cpu-cooler/details.aspx?channel_code=110&product_code=43696718&utm_source=adwords-product-listing-ads&gclid=CN-hvsHz6sACFfMZtAodvBkAQA

motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/970-Pro3-R2-0-Mainboard-keine/dp/B00C9OPYWE?SubscriptionId=AKIA
JMPUPDNYIYT5HIWA&tag=pcspecs-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00C9OPYWE

ram

http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/page.html?articleId=1094676&channel
_code=544&product_code=80680125&utm_source=google&gclid=CNiJ2Z-C6cACFYMewwodvhYA3A

processor

https://www.4launch.nl/shop/product/129420/amd-fx-6300-3-50ghz-6mb-am3--box/google?gclid=COX9hYX06sACFVNutAodxnEAqQ

mybe the fx 6300 black edition

so Guy's what do you think ?
good or bad ?
whill it get the 30-60 fps for today games
and whill it run stable whit the motherboard ?
and if it not work can you send me a setup to my email shadow-ballista@live.nl
i whant to keep it under the 300 dollar whit evrything

RobCrezz · Sep 18, 2014

Darkbreeze :

jackstrr :

GPU's don't bottleneck CPU's. It's the other way around. A CPU will use whatever the GPU can throw at it up to it's potential limit so if you have a killer GPU and a so so CPU the GPU will be throwing way more at the CPU than it can process in a timely manner which causes all manner of neurotic behaviors. Make sure you know what you're advising about, prior to advising.

GPUs most certainly can bottleneck, it can occur either way.

If the games performance is limited by the performance of your GPU, then you have a GPU bottleneck.

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 18, 2014

actualy i now whant to do that motherboard upgrade and cpu and cooler and
3-4 months later i whant to upgrade my asus eah5770 to a AMD 7*** series
so im not looking to the gpu or its gona bottleneck believe me i can let it be stable
whitout problems

Darkbreeze · Sep 18, 2014

Plus that's an Intel CPU and board, so the AMD FX was never even a possibility to start with.

There is no way you're going to get out of this cheap. You need a new motherboard, CPU and RAM. Your current motherboard uses DDR2 and most current boards use DDR3, with the obvious exception of a few new boards that use DDR4. The FX series CPU's don't work with DDR2 either.

This is about as cheap as it's going to get and still be a good upgrade. IF you plan to overclock, do NOT use this setup. You would need a better board, the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P would be a good choice for a budget overclock. You would also need to add a Hyper 212 EVO cpu cooler, if you wanted something you can overclock. If not, this is fine below.:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $231.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-18 12:25 EDT-0400

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 18, 2014

so if i whant to overclock it to 4,0 ghz 4,5 ghz i need that Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P motherboard whit
a nice cpu cooler like this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&cm_re=watercooling-_-35-181-010-_-Product

but the parts i have pick whill ther work together ?
and whill this processor play today games and furture games whitout the proseccor is laging ?

Darkbreeze · Sep 18, 2014

You don't need water cooling. What is the model number of your case and power supply?

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 18, 2014

a 750 watt corsair powersupply and my case is a antec 900 whit a big top fan and 1 120 mm fan and a 80 mm fan

Brunostako · Sep 18, 2014

It would be better if you spend first on your GPU and then on your base platform.
Some of the best price to performance ratio cards are (from the lower priced) R7 260X ($115 USD), GTX 750, GTX 750Ti, R7 265 ($160 USD).
Also, it would be better if you jump to the AMD FM2+ or Intel LGA1150 platforms. With the FX-6300 you're increasing performance but it isn't really an upgrade because AM3+ platform is already obsolete.

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 18, 2014

do you know a nice rig Brunostako for the lga 1150 or am3+ or fm2+
for under 275 euro whit the same or better performance
becaurse i dont have alot monet to spend and i need real performance for my price
gpu i wahnt to upgrade later in begin 2015 to a amd 7*** series or a R9 or good R7
mybe a nice 770 Ti

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 18, 2014

im now considering to upgrade to this

AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor

Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

so what do you think Guy's can my 750 watt power supply hold this and my asus eah5770
my 2 sata drives ( mybe i sell them becaurse ther are clean) and my hdd is 700 gb that enough
and my 3 fans ?

Brunostako · Sep 18, 2014

The only reference prices i have are from Newegg, i don't know where i can check the prices in Euros.

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 18, 2014

can you send the list of parts ? than i whill convert it to euro's

Brunostako · Sep 18, 2014

Of course. I bet you'll be recycling your HDD, optical drive, case and PSU, so i'm going to suggest only the main hardware:

AMD Platform:

CPU: Athlon X4 860K, Kaveri, 3.7GHz/4.0GHz Turbo, FM2+ - $92 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113379

MoBo: MSI A78M-E45 - $71 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130747&ignorebbr=1

Intel Platform:

CPU: Core i3-4150, Haswell Refresh, 3.5GHz, LGA 1150 - $130 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116995

MoBo: ASRock H97M Anniversary - $76 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157547&ignorebbr=1

Common parts

RAM: Team Vulcan 8GB kit (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz DDR3 - $70 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313345&ignorebbr=1

Video Card:

Option 1: Sapphire R7 260X, 2GB GDDR5 128-bit - $115 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202081&ignorebbr=1

Option 2: Zotac GTX 750, 1GB GDDR5 128-bit - $118 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500350&ignorebbr=1

Option 3: EVGA GTX 750 Ti Superclocked, 2GB GDDR5 128-bit - $140 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024&ignorebbr=1

Option 4: Gigabyte R7 265 Windforce 2, 2GB GDDR5 256-bit - $156 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125514&ignorebbr=1

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 18, 2014

Brunostako i have look to the stats of the i3 and the athlon
but ther are like 25% less performance than the FX 6300 that information is from gamedebate
thats a site wher you can look or you can play games so i think its gona be the
FX6300 whit te
ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Corsair Vengeance Pro 1600-8GB

its coming for me in the Netherlands for about 270 euro i think its gona be my cristmas gift
and then if i do that upgrade i gona sell mybe my old mobo and cpu or make a 2 pc
but thx for help Guy's

Darkbreeze · Sep 18, 2014

Bruno, I don't mean to knock your recommendation because you are correct in one sense, however, in the opinions of many including myself, the FM2 cpu's suck and the FX processors are still a better option. Especially for budget builds. The overclocking capabilities alone make them superior choices for gaming and general computing. I agree that a better card may be in order, but since he's on a pretty strict budget the card he has is an upper mid level performer and can be upgraded at a later time if it doesn't perform to his expectations. The card he has WILL work fine with what he has outlined for upgrade however a higher end card will NOT work well with the other components he's currently using. That makes upgrading as planned a better option.

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 19, 2014

what you mean darkbreeze that that components not whill work fine whit my graphic card ?
and you have called this Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P motherboard but is it supporting a
DDR5 graphic card whit 2.1 pci ? i dont know wher to search that

Brunostako · Sep 19, 2014

I know AMD CPUs are not the best of the best, but for gaming they do the job great (AM3+ or FM2+).

Danny, the 860K and the i3-4150 I suggested do have less Multi threading performance due to the fact that they have "2 cores" less (AMD: 1 module less/Intel: 1 core with HT less). But for gaming you really don't need more than 4 cores, it's better if those cores are strong instead of have lots of weaker cores. That's the reason i suggested those CPU, the Vishera FX still deliver great performance the same way the Sandy Bridge Core iX do, they are just a bit old.

Darkbreeze · Sep 19, 2014

Danny Nieuwenhuis :

Yes, that motherboard will support any PCIe 2.0 or 3.0 graphics card, no problem.

Danny Nieuwenhuis · Sep 19, 2014

ok thx for help i think that whas all and i think this is gona be my new parts

AMD FX 6300 93 euro
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 25 euro
Gigabyte AM3+ AMD 970A 85 euro
Corsair Vengeance Pro 1600-8GB (2x4GB) 83 euro

A total of 276 euro whill this be accepteble for high to ultra settings
i think yes if i look to it is cheap if you compare it whit a intel proseccor
and the other stuff

Plz help me is this AMD FX 6300 a good upgrade for my q6600 ?

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