FX6300 and new Nvidia 900 series

ak_au · Sep 18, 2014

I plan to get a new 900 series card from Nvidia early next year and i'm not sure if I would have to upgrade my CPU or not

I currently have an AMD FX-6300 and an Nvidia GTX 660
My motherboard is an Asus M5A97 R2.0

If i do need a new CPU do you have any suggestions as to which one?

Thanks for any help

azzazel_99 · Sep 18, 2014

Snag an i5 CPU as they are great for gaming. If you plan to do sli i7's handle the setups better but it's a small gain. I5's for the price are GREAT cpu's and plenty for the new gpu's

Swordkd · Sep 18, 2014

Upgrade the video card first,then take a look at the new Amd cpu's. Not sure if they are socket compatible, but it's worth checking out. If you don't have to buy a new motherboard in addition to your video card, that would save quite a bit of money.

Right now though, you could overclock that fx6300 for a decent performance gain. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo for about 30 dollars would be a good investment for a cpu cooler regardless, even if you eventually upgrade to an i5 cpu.

RaidHobbit · Sep 18, 2014

Hi ak_au

Current generation Intel cores are more powerful than their AMD counterparts. However, most upcoming and present games on the market aren't cpu intensive. Therefore you should be able to get away with your FX6300 for a couple more years yet. CPU intensive games are ones like civilization or Forged Alliance Supreme Commander (both on large maps). For demanding games you could do with an Intel i5 sooner rather than later.

One thing to watch is if you have a PCI 2 slot instead of 3 on your motherboard. For a 960+ I'd recommend having PCI 3.

azzazel_99 · Sep 18, 2014

There are current games that are CPU heavy like bf4..... That game is both CPU and gpu heavy as was bf3 and I'm sure watchdogs uses a good amount of the CPU as well. The fx6300 is a good CPU but I would t say it's good for years to come..... I'd say it's probably good for gaming for another year tops after that to hold high fps in games you're gonna be looking at a i5 like a 4690k or somethin of the intel i5 series for gaming.

ak_au · Sep 19, 2014

Swordkd i actually already have that exact CPU cooler so I will try and overclock it

Also this is my first thread so this is gonna sound stupid but how do I reply to a certain post

azzazel_99 · Sep 19, 2014

Ummmm click on the persons name and message them?

ak_au · Sep 19, 2014

Swordkd :

azzazel_99 :

Would an FX-8350 work as a replacement or would it not be powerful enough??

azzazel_99 · Sep 19, 2014

My i52500k that's years old beats the 8350 in gaming so I wouldn't get it for gaming.

RaidHobbit · Sep 19, 2014

ak_au :

Swordkd :

azzazel_99 :

Again AMD cores are not as powerful as 4th generation Intel ones so it depends on what type of games you'll be playing or tasks you'll be performing. For CPU intensive games (civilization, sim city, forged alliance supreme commander, battlefield 4, etc) you'll notice a large improvement if you have an i5 in your machine. If you live in the UK you can pick up a decent i5 for £150 at CCL Computing which is only £25 more than the FX-8350 - http://www.cclonline.com/

Currently the vast majority of games on the market require a dual core. This will become a quad core quite soon and then oct core in a few years time. Therefore the FX-8350 has a longer lifespan than the i5 range but its individual cores arent as powerful. So the questions are do you want to pay £25 extra? Do you mind slowdown in any cpu intensive games or applications you use? Are you okay with the trade off when it comes to longetivity over processing power?

RaidHobbit · Sep 19, 2014

ak_au :

Swordkd :

azzazel_99 :

Again AMD cores are not as powerful as 4th generation Intel ones so it depends on what type of games you'll be playing or tasks you'll be performing. For CPU intensive games (civilization, sim city, forged alliance supreme commander, battlefield 4, etc) you'll notice a large improvement if you have an i5 in your machine. If you live in the UK you can pick up a decent i5 for £150 at CCL Computing which is only £25 more than the FX-8350 - http://www.cclonline.com/

Currently the vast majority of games on the market require a dual core. This will become a quad core quite soon and then oct core in a few years time. Therefore the FX-8350 has a longer lifespan than the i5 range but its individual cores arent as powerful. So the questions are do you want to pay £25 extra? Do you mind slowdown in any cpu intensive games or applications you use? Are you okay with the trade off when it comes to longetivity over processing power?

RaidHobbit · Sep 19, 2014

Please delete, post was duplicated

ak_au · Sep 19, 2014

RaidHobbit :

ak_au :

Swordkd :

azzazel_99 :

Again AMD cores are not as powerful as 4th generation Intel ones so it depends on what type of games you'll be playing or tasks you'll be performing. For CPU intensive games (civilization, sim city, forged alliance supreme commander, battlefield 4, etc) you'll notice a large improvement if you have an i5 in your machine. If you live in the UK you can pick up a decent i5 for £150 at CCL Computing which is only £25 more than the FX-8350 - http://www.cclonline.com/

Currently the vast majority of games on the market require a dual core. This will become a quad core quite soon and then oct core in a few years time. Therefore the FX-8350 has a longer lifespan than the i5 range but its individual cores arent as powerful. So the questions are do you want to pay £25 extra? Do you mind slowdown in any cpu intensive games or applications you use? Are you okay with the trade off when it comes to longetivity over processing power?

The only game I play in that list is BF4 and currently my FX-6300 can handle that on high settings. As f

ak_au · Sep 19, 2014

RaidHobbit :

ak_au :

Swordkd :

azzazel_99 :

Again AMD cores are not as powerful as 4th generation Intel ones so it depends on what type of games you'll be playing or tasks you'll be performing. For CPU intensive games (civilization, sim city, forged alliance supreme commander, battlefield 4, etc) you'll notice a large improvement if you have an i5 in your machine. If you live in the UK you can pick up a decent i5 for £150 at CCL Computing which is only £25 more than the FX-8350 - http://www.cclonline.com/

Currently the vast majority of games on the market require a dual core. This will become a quad core quite soon and then oct core in a few years time. Therefore the FX-8350 has a longer lifespan than the i5 range but its individual cores arent as powerful. So the questions are do you want to pay £25 extra? Do you mind slowdown in any cpu intensive games or applications you use? Are you okay with the trade off when it comes to longetivity over processing power?

Sorry, the post kinda sent when I hadn't finished

RaidHobbit · Sep 19, 2014

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From your replies I'm going to assume you play your games on a single monitor in normal HD resolutions. In that case BF4 will give you more frames per second than your eyes can see with a FX-6300. You would still experience a slow down playing Sim City or Civilization but they arent in your collection.

If you have no intention of getting games like that, playing on more than one monitor, or playing in ultra high HD resolutions than your FX-6300 should give you a few years. It will need upgrading when quad core moves to oct core as the standard for gaming.

If you dont play in ultra high HD resolutions on your one screen you don't need a high-spec graphics card either. The 660 is still perfectly good for you. I have a 460 and I've only recently encountered a game I couldn't max out for normal HD resolutions on a single monitor.

I have an i5-4690 though as I don't like waiting 5 minutes between turns on large maps in civilization lol.

ak_au · Sep 19, 2014

Sorry about the reply I'm not sure what happened, think my internet messed up, anyway yeh i do play on normal 1080p resolution and that is fine, it's just that sometimes in certain games I will have to turn down some of the settings and such. I play games like Skyrim and the Borderlands series which I don't think are very CPU intensive

Thanks everybody for all the replies but I think that I will upgrade to an 8350 and then get a gtx970, only because I think I'll get more life out of it and won't have to upgrade for another 3-4 years after that
Thanks all for the quick replies and helpful advice

azzazel_99 · Sep 19, 2014

The 8350 is good for multi tasking but not so good for gaming. When a cpu as old as my i5 2500k can beat something as new as a 8350 that's kinda bad but I think and aimed that cpu more at multi tasking. Still a good cpu just gets beat by older Intel stuff.

ak_au · Sep 19, 2014

I understand that but I don't want to have to get a new motherboard as well

Swordkd · Sep 20, 2014

The fx8350(or fx8320) would be good price conscious upgrades for ya. However, the main emphasis should be on the video card first as that will more directly affect gaming performance.

Of course a new i5 would do better in gaming, but then you are talking 180 for the Cpu, and probably 70+ for a new motherboard, while an fx8320 would only set ya back 150 or less. With the new fx8370 coming out soon, might drop the prices on the older fx's as well. The octa-core AMD cpu's don't perform badly in games, just not as well as their i5 counterparts.

RaidHobbit · Sep 20, 2014

Swordkd :

Just a final note and thats if he buys online from CCL Computing to assemble himself the FX8350 is £127 and prices for a decent i5 like the i5-4570 are £148. I advise not going above a FX8350 if he buys AMD because you need watercooling for their higher clocked cpu chips. They also do the i5-4460 for £137 (which is 3.2 ghz) as their cheapest Intel quad core. Thats still a good chip compared to what AMD offer and the lowest price I can find anywhere.

Swordkd · Sep 20, 2014

I wouldn't buy anything above the fx8320 because you can overclock to make up the difference anyways, and save the cash. The 4460 i5 would be a great option, if he doesn't mind buying a new motherboard as well.

Brian Blair · Sep 23, 2014

Oh c'mon! The FX-6300 is more than enough CPU for the GTX 970 and GTX 980. It will work wonderful together. The FX-6300 is a very strong CPU for gaming. I don't blame you for wanting a new 900 series. I am going to get a GTX 970 myself in a few months. The 970 has better performance than the R9 290 and uses 5watts less TDP than my current R9 270. That is very impressive. But don't worry about the FX-6300. No it may not be the best. But it certainly is not the worst. Don't let idiots who are only smart enough to follow trends tell you that your CPU is slow or will bottleneck. The word bottleneck has spread so rapid people now use it to pretend to know what they are doing. But honestly if you had 1st gen i5 or i3 you would be more than fine to run a high end GPU. The FX-6300 is still a perfect gaming CPU and will be for a while to come. I personally use a i5-3470, But I almost got the FX-6300 instead back when I bought it. It is just the i5-3470 appealed to me better and I got a great deal on a Z77 board. So it was actually cheaper getting the i5.

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